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PostPosted: Tue Oct 27, 2020 12:50 pm    Post subject:

Lonzo-Lite wrote:
Stein says schedule will look like this:

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Nov. 18 - Draft

Nov. 20 - Free Agency

Dec. 1 - Training Camp

Dec. 22 - NBA Season Begins


So basically 2 days after draft is free agency then 10 days later training camp begins for 3 weeks before start of the season, this is crazy.


Season usually starts at the end of Oct. The league wants to start the new 2021 season basically 2 months earlier but also wants a 72 game season. So unless next season is going to go past July, there's going to be a lot of back-to-back games, maybe even back-to-back-to-backs?
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 27, 2020 1:16 pm    Post subject:

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Would Miami do this trade? https://tradenba.com/trades/o8t2L3CT_

Lakers get Duncan/Kelly
Miami gets Kuzma/Green/

Sign Galanari
Sign KCP
Sign Rondo
Sign Dwight
Sign Morris

Avery/KCP/Rondo
Duncan/Caruso
LeBron/Galanari/THT
AD/Morris/Dudley
Dwight/Javale/DmC


This would be the trade of the century...and Pelinka would get GM of the year upon completion.
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 27, 2020 1:55 pm    Post subject:

Jordan-esque wrote:
Lonzo-Lite wrote:
Stein says schedule will look like this:

Quote:
Nov. 18 - Draft

Nov. 20 - Free Agency

Dec. 1 - Training Camp

Dec. 22 - NBA Season Begins


So basically 2 days after draft is free agency then 10 days later training camp begins for 3 weeks before start of the season, this is crazy.


Season usually starts at the end of Oct. The league wants to start the new 2021 season basically 2 months earlier but also wants a 72 game season. So unless next season is going to go past July, there's going to be a lot of back-to-back games, maybe even back-to-back-to-backs?


Maybe that’s what the players can negotiate back? I get the league wanting to keep that Christmas date. But maybe the players can ask for less games (avoiding as many back to backs as possible)?
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 27, 2020 2:02 pm    Post subject:

Jordan-esque wrote:
Lonzo-Lite wrote:
Stein says schedule will look like this:

Quote:
Nov. 18 - Draft

Nov. 20 - Free Agency

Dec. 1 - Training Camp

Dec. 22 - NBA Season Begins


So basically 2 days after draft is free agency then 10 days later training camp begins for 3 weeks before start of the season, this is crazy.


Season usually starts at the end of Oct. The league wants to start the new 2021 season basically 2 months earlier but also wants a 72 game season. So unless next season is going to go past July, there's going to be a lot of back-to-back games, maybe even back-to-back-to-backs?


If they want to end the playoffs before the Olympics then they must start mid-May. Earlier if they have play in games.
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 27, 2020 2:16 pm    Post subject:

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The league is going to have blood on their hands if there is a rash of player injuries. Especially to any Laker players.


Look at the NFL this season with little camp and no preseason, lots of names on the injury report every game. The dates are obvious, trying to end next season so that the following season can be a normal July to June schedule.
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 27, 2020 2:32 pm    Post subject:

If Dec 22 is the start date, I have no issues with LBJ and AD doing some load management for the first month or two. If it's a controlled environment with potential for a playoff "bubble", does seeding even matter?
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 27, 2020 2:37 pm    Post subject:

I highly doubt that there will be a playoff bubble, owners will want home playoff games.
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 27, 2020 2:40 pm    Post subject:

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The NBA has sent its 30 teams the game presentation protocols for 2020-21 in conditions of limited/no fans:

- Enhanced theatrical lighting
- Crowd from arena noises/NBA 2K/prerecorded chants
- Possibility of team arena entertainers


https://mobile.twitter.com/ShamsCharania/status/1321154947103113217
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 27, 2020 2:56 pm    Post subject:

logical24 wrote:
Would Miami do this trade? https://tradenba.com/trades/o8t2L3CT_

Lakers get Duncan/Kelly
Miami gets Kuzma/Green/

Sign Galanari
Sign KCP
Sign Rondo
Sign Dwight
Sign Morris

Avery/KCP/Rondo
Duncan/Caruso
LeBron/Galanari/THT
AD/Morris/Dudley
Dwight/Javale/DmC


1. I wouldn't expect any team to trade their best 3-pt shooter/starting SF to the team that just beat them in the Finals.

2. I'm getting the feeling that there's some love lost between the Lakers and Riles, doubt we will see another major trade with the Heat as long as Riles is there.
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 27, 2020 3:41 pm    Post subject:

72 games is necessary for NBA to meet TV contract obligations and for NBA players to get paid. Less than 72 games means a revenue implosion.

There will be 72 games.

LeBron isn't coming off 82 game continuous season plus playoffs. There was a 4 month hiatus. 10 weeks 2 days should be enough time off. If not load manage.
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 27, 2020 3:59 pm    Post subject:

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Yikes. Reddish and Hunter are not yet better than Kuz. In the future perhaps but not yet.


Even if I disagree with your opinion, why would Atlanta want Kuzma if Reddish and Hunter are projected to be better than Kuzma?

Also,

Look at Reddish's improvement by month:

Look at Pre and Post All Star.

https://www.basketball-reference.com/players/r/reddica01/splits/2020

Now look at Hunter Pre and Post AS.
https://www.basketball-reference.com/players/h/huntede01/splits/2020

If Kuzma got those numbers, he'd be starting.
https://www.basketball-reference.com/players/k/kuzmaky01/splits/2020


Okay..

a.) Post all star this season was 10 games, that's not enough sample size to be evidence of anything

b.) Kuzma was 20, 5 and 2 as a starter on 58% TS this season and he still didn't start for us. Who would he be replacing anyway?

And before you throw 'small sample size' back at me, look at his career starting/reserve splits. It's not too far off

c.) Judging from your other posts, you seem to be fond of BPM. Have you seen the BPM on those 2? Even in Kuz's worst year, he never came close to the numbers those 2 had last season, -4.7 and -4.2. And before you say they played for a bad team, Kuz was also on a bad team his rookie year
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 27, 2020 4:03 pm    Post subject:

DeeAgeaux wrote:
72 games is necessary for NBA to meet TV contract obligations and for NBA players to get paid. Less than 72 games means a revenue implosion.

There will be 72 games.

LeBron isn't coming off 82 game continuous season plus playoffs. There was a 4 month hiatus. 10 weeks 2 days should be enough time off. If not load manage.

I Agree! Players are NOT burned out! They just came from a 4 month layoff, then a little over 2 months Basketball!
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 27, 2020 4:15 pm    Post subject:

S&T KCP for Detroit's DRose + Kennard maybe.
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 27, 2020 4:22 pm    Post subject:

logical24 wrote:
Would Miami do this trade? https://tradenba.com/trades/o8t2L3CT_

Lakers get Duncan/Kelly
Miami gets Kuzma/Green/


It's very obvious that's a trade idea from a Lakers fan, not a Heat fan.
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 27, 2020 4:39 pm    Post subject:

jankobe wrote:
DeeAgeaux wrote:
72 games is necessary for NBA to meet TV contract obligations and for NBA players to get paid. Less than 72 games means a revenue implosion.

There will be 72 games.

LeBron isn't coming off 82 game continuous season plus playoffs. There was a 4 month hiatus. 10 weeks 2 days should be enough time off. If not load manage.

I Agree! Players are NOT burned out! They just came from a 4 month layoff, then a little over 2 months Basketball!


Nobody knows the format of the season; in a bubble or traveling in the midst of a pandemic... in front of packed, half packed, or empty arenas. This whole thing must be planned out well for sure. Imagine just one player - star or benchwarmer dying from this virus... imagine the impact of a league that put their players in that situation. It would destroy confidence by placing money above safety, and would drive talent away from our beloved league.
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 27, 2020 5:42 pm    Post subject:

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logical24 wrote:
Would Miami do this trade? https://tradenba.com/trades/o8t2L3CT_

Lakers get Duncan/Kelly
Miami gets Kuzma/Green/


It's very obvious that's a trade idea from a Lakers fan, not a Heat fan.


Wouldn’t even trade Duncan for Kuz alone!
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 27, 2020 5:51 pm    Post subject:

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Absolutely no way i am trading Alex Caruso unless the deal involved Beal in a trade other then that he will remain a Laker.

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PostPosted: Tue Oct 27, 2020 7:49 pm    Post subject:

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A note on the offseason: several teams said the Knicks are open to using their cap space to take on undesirable contracts via trade, SNY has learned.

The Knicks would presumably acquire another draft pick and young player in this kind of trade. New York has the No. 8, No. 27 and No. 38 picks in the draft.

https://www.sny.tv/articles/sources-knicks-open-to-trading-for-an-undesirable-contract-to-acquire-an-asset



Possible Cp3 negotiations where either Leon is asking for an inbound Cp3 contract or participating as a 3rd team to take other bad deals in a larger Cp3 deal?

Btw: LA is lit..Go Lakers/Dodgers!
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 27, 2020 8:16 pm    Post subject:

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Btw: LA is lit..Go Lakers/Dodgers!


Clippers feeling left out
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 27, 2020 8:28 pm    Post subject:

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Btw: LA is lit..Go Lakers/Dodgers!


Clippers feeling left out


Always will be...
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 27, 2020 8:49 pm    Post subject:

Trade idea with HOU:

Green/Kuzma/McGee/#28 for Covington/Tucker/House
Sign Tristan Thompson with the MLE

In these two deals, we add crazy versatility with improved shooting and three big bodies to throw at Kawhi & PG, who I still feel is our biggest threat in the West. This would also allow us to match up well against GS.

HOU considers this deal to add another scoring punch to their starting lineup who’s actually taller than 6’7”, a veteran center who can finish on Harden pick and rolls, and cuts close to $17M off their books for the 2021 FA class.

LAL
Bradley/Caruso/Cook
KCP/House/THT
James/Covington/Dudley
Davis/Tucker
Thompson/Morris/Cousins

HOU
Westbrook/Rivers
Harden/Gordon/McLemore
Green/
Kuzma/
McGee/
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 27, 2020 9:07 pm    Post subject:

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jankobe wrote:
DeeAgeaux wrote:
72 games is necessary for NBA to meet TV contract obligations and for NBA players to get paid. Less than 72 games means a revenue implosion.

There will be 72 games.

LeBron isn't coming off 82 game continuous season plus playoffs. There was a 4 month hiatus. 10 weeks 2 days should be enough time off. If not load manage.

I Agree! Players are NOT burned out! They just came from a 4 month layoff, then a little over 2 months Basketball!


Nobody knows the format of the season; in a bubble or traveling in the midst of a pandemic... in front of packed, half packed, or empty arenas. This whole thing must be planned out well for sure. Imagine just one player - star or benchwarmer dying from this virus... imagine the impact of a league that put their players in that situation. It would destroy confidence by placing money above safety, and would drive talent away from our beloved league.


1)Over 230k Americans have died from coronavirus. Most over 50 with at least one comorbidity. Diabetes,heart disease, cardiovascular disease, obesity etc.

2) No one is forced to play or coach in the NBA.

3) Chances of a player dying are extremely low. Healthy fit people under 38 do die of coronavirus but it is extremely rare.
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 27, 2020 9:42 pm    Post subject:

Lonzo-Lite wrote:
Stein says schedule will look like this:

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Nov. 18 - Draft

Nov. 20 - Free Agency

Dec. 1 - Training Camp

Dec. 22 - NBA Season Begins


So basically 2 days after draft is free agency then 10 days later training camp begins for 3 weeks before start of the season, this is crazy.


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€H£M£$TR¥ wrote:
jankobe wrote:
DeeAgeaux wrote:
72 games is necessary for NBA to meet TV contract obligations and for NBA players to get paid. Less than 72 games means a revenue implosion.

There will be 72 games.

LeBron isn't coming off 82 game continuous season plus playoffs. There was a 4 month hiatus. 10 weeks 2 days should be enough time off. If not load manage.

I Agree! Players are NOT burned out! They just came from a 4 month layoff, then a little over 2 months Basketball!


Nobody knows the format of the season; in a bubble or traveling in the midst of a pandemic... in front of packed, half packed, or empty arenas. This whole thing must be planned out well for sure. Imagine just one player - star or benchwarmer dying from this virus... imagine the impact of a league that put their players in that situation. It would destroy confidence by placing money above safety, and would drive talent away from our beloved league.


1)Over 230k Americans have died from coronavirus. Most over 50 with at least one comorbidity. Diabetes,heart disease, cardiovascular disease, obesity etc.

2) No one is forced to play or coach in the NBA.

3) Chances of a player dying are extremely low. Healthy fit people under 38 do die of coronavirus but it is extremely rare.


😂 Take your three reasons to the players association, and see how it goes.
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€H£M£$TR¥ wrote:
DeeAgeaux wrote:
€H£M£$TR¥ wrote:
jankobe wrote:
DeeAgeaux wrote:
72 games is necessary for NBA to meet TV contract obligations and for NBA players to get paid. Less than 72 games means a revenue implosion.

There will be 72 games.

LeBron isn't coming off 82 game continuous season plus playoffs. There was a 4 month hiatus. 10 weeks 2 days should be enough time off. If not load manage.

I Agree! Players are NOT burned out! They just came from a 4 month layoff, then a little over 2 months Basketball!


Nobody knows the format of the season; in a bubble or traveling in the midst of a pandemic... in front of packed, half packed, or empty arenas. This whole thing must be planned out well for sure. Imagine just one player - star or benchwarmer dying from this virus... imagine the impact of a league that put their players in that situation. It would destroy confidence by placing money above safety, and would drive talent away from our beloved league.


1)Over 230k Americans have died from coronavirus. Most over 50 with at least one comorbidity. Diabetes,heart disease, cardiovascular disease, obesity etc.

2) No one is forced to play or coach in the NBA.

3) Chances of a player dying are extremely low. Healthy fit people under 38 do die of coronavirus but it is extremely rare.


😂 Take your three reasons to the players association, and see how it goes.


It’s not just about dying of Covid, many people don’t die (young and old), but are left with permanent damage. Imagine what lung damage would do to a basketball players career.

The bubble was an awesome success. I hope whatever they plan for next season is just as restrictive, if not more, since Covid is getting worse, not better, in the US and around the world.
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