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PostPosted: Sat Nov 21, 2020 5:34 pm    Post subject: New Lakers rotation and subs pattern

What do you think will be the best Lakers rotation?

This is mine:


I think Schroder will be off the bench. They need a playmaker and a scorer for the 2nd unit while Lebron and AD are resting.

Starter: Bron, Caruso, Matthews, AD, McGee

Sub 1: (First Q and 3rd Q)
Out: Lebron, Caruso, McGee
In: Schroder, KCP, Harrell
Lineup : Schroder, KCP, Matthews, AD, Harrell

Sub 2: Start of 2nd Q and 4th Q
Out: AD, Matthews, Harrell
In: Lebron, Kuzma, Bruiser Center
Lineup: Schroder, KCP, Bron, Kuzma, Bruiser Center

Sub 3: Mid 2nd Q and 4th Q
Out: Lebron, Schroder, Bruiser Center,
In: AD, Caruso, Harrell
Lineup: Caruso, KCP, Kuzma, AD, Harrell

Sub 4: 2nd Q and 4th Q closing lineup
Out: Kuzma, KCP
In: Lebron, Schroder
Closing Lineup: Schroder, Caruso, Bron, AD, Harrell


The SG of closing lineup will either be Caruso or KCP or Matthews depending on the matchup.
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 21, 2020 5:54 pm    Post subject:

PG.Dennis / Caruso
SG.KCP / Wesley
SF.LeBron / Kuzma
PF.Davis / Morris
C.Mcgee / Harrell

to close

Dennis
KCP
LeBron
Harrell
Davis
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PG.Schroeder / Caruso
SG.KCP / Wesley
SF.LeBron / Batum
PF.Davis / Kuzma
C.Gasol / Montrez


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PostPosted: Sat Nov 21, 2020 5:54 pm    Post subject:

We need to fill five roster spots still.
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 21, 2020 7:02 pm    Post subject:

ocho wrote:
We need to fill five roster spots still.


Exactly, one of each: PG, SG, SF, PF & C..

then two G-Leaguers...
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 21, 2020 7:10 pm    Post subject: Re: New Lakers rotation and subs pattern

leking006 wrote:
What do you think will be the best Lakers rotation?

This is mine:


I think Schroder will be off the bench. They need a playmaker and a scorer for the 2nd unit while Lebron and AD are resting.

Starter: Bron, Caruso, Matthews, AD, McGee

Sub 1: (First Q and 3rd Q)
Out: Lebron, Caruso, McGee
In: Schroder, KCP, Harrell
Lineup : Schroder, KCP, Matthews, AD, Harrell

Sub 2: Start of 2nd Q and 4th Q
Out: AD, Matthews, Harrell
In: Lebron, Kuzma, Bruiser Center
Lineup: Schroder, KCP, Bron, Kuzma, Bruiser Center

Sub 3: Mid 2nd Q and 4th Q
Out: Lebron, Schroder, Bruiser Center,
In: AD, Caruso, Harrell
Lineup: Caruso, KCP, Kuzma, AD, Harrell

Sub 4: 2nd Q and 4th Q closing lineup
Out: Kuzma, KCP
In: Lebron, Schroder
Closing Lineup: Schroder, Caruso, Bron, AD, Harrell


The SG of closing lineup will either be Caruso or KCP or Matthews depending on the matchup.


Hard to guess with 5 more spots to fill, but since KCP started last season and they are paying big money - he ain't coming off the bench!

Starting Lineup: Bron, KCP, Matthews, AD, McGee

First Substitutions:
Out: Lebron, KCP, McGee
In: Schroder, Kuz, Harrell

Second Lineup: Schroder, Kuz, Matthews, AD, Harrell


Closing Lineup: Schroder, KCP, Bron, AD, Harrell
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 21, 2020 7:29 pm    Post subject:

unleasHell wrote:
ocho wrote:
We need to fill five roster spots still.


Exactly, one of each: PG, SG, SF, PF & C..

then two G-Leaguers...


How come no THT? I'd expect he contributes meaningfully this year.
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 22, 2020 8:48 pm    Post subject:

Gasol-16/Trezz-24/AD-8
AD-24/Morris-16/Kuz-8
LeBron-32/Kuz-16
Matthews-24/Caruso-18/KCP-6
KCP-20/DS-28

Something like that.

LeBron-32
AD-32
Schroder-28
KCP-26
Matthews-24
Trezz-24
Kuz-24
Caruso-18
Gasol-16
Morris-16

Depth-THT/?/?/McKiniee
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 22, 2020 9:24 pm    Post subject:

ocho wrote:
We need to fill five roster spots still.


That is like Bullets for Rob Pelinka!
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 23, 2020 12:11 am    Post subject:

I am listing who could play which position in no particular order.

Gasol, Harrell, Davis
Davis, Harrell, Kuzma
LBJ, Kuzma
KCP, Matthews
Schroder, Caruso, LBJ


unless THT or McKinnie emerges as a rotational player, a swingman is needed.
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 23, 2020 12:29 am    Post subject:

Why start Schroder? We need his playmaking when LBJ sits. They can close halfs together, sure. But I wouldn't start them together.

Think we'll start KCP with Matthews. They can spot up and play defense while LBJ does his point forward thing.

Caruso's defense will be needed off the bench. Defense isn't Schroder or Harrell's calling card. Kuz is still working on it thought.
Wondering who our 4th forward on the roster will be after LBJ, AD, and Kuz.
9 man rotations or less are fine for playoffs. But this is a short offseason for us. We may need to give LBJ and AD some days off early in the season.
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 23, 2020 3:55 am    Post subject:

Schröder comes off the bench.
Our starting lineup will most likely be Gasol/AD/LBJ/Matthews/KCP.
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 23, 2020 4:27 am    Post subject:

Starters will be:
Bron
KCP
Matthews
AD
Gasol

Closers will be:
Caruso/Schroder (depending on whether we need defense or offense)
KCP
Matthews
Bron
AD
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 23, 2020 11:20 am    Post subject:

Since Kief came back, we are set with our rotation, only THT is sort of wild card but I still expect him to play at least 5- 10 minutes.

Starters

KCP
Kuz
Lebron
AD
Gasol

Then Lebron get his rest along with Gasol and KCP and comes Trez and Schroder

Vogel will probably stagger Kuz minutes in spotting both Lebron and AD

And split the minutes between Caruso , KCP and Matthews and play whoever is playing well that night

And stagger center rotation between Gasol, Trez and Kief depending on matchups and save AD until playoff.

So I can see

Only 4 guys who will get 30 minutes no matter what

AD
Lebron
Schroder
Trez

And Gasol will get his 10-16 minutes at Center

And everyone will have to battle for minutes

We are deep though so hopefully Vogel will load manage games or minutes at least.
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 23, 2020 12:06 pm    Post subject:

Starters:
PG : Lebron James
SG: Wes Matthews
SF: Kentqvious Caldwell Pope
PF: Anthony Davis
C: Marc Gasol

1st sub:
Schroder for Lebron
Harrell for Gasol

2nd sub:
Kuzma for Matthews
Caruso for Pope

2nd Qt:
PG: Schroder
SG: Caruso
SF: Lebron
PF: Kuzma
C: Harrell

Closing:
PG: Schroder
SG: Pope
SF: Lebron
PF: Davis
C: Harrell

Also depends on matchups. Could see Gasol close instead of Harrell and maybe Caruso for either Schroder or Pope. I don’t see matthews due to his age and wanting to reduce min come playoffs. Right now Pope and Caruso are better
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 23, 2020 12:10 pm    Post subject:

a2j1m wrote:
Starters:
PG : Lebron James
SG: Wes Matthews
SF: Kentqvious Caldwell Pope
PF: Anthony Davis
C: Marc Gasol

1st sub:
Schroder for Lebron
Harrell for Gasol

2nd sub:
Kuzma for Matthews
Caruso for Pope

2nd Qt:
PG: Schroder
SG: Caruso
SF: Lebron
PF: Kuzma
C: Harrell

Closing:
PG: Schroder
SG: Pope
SF: Lebron
PF: Davis
C: Harrell

Also depends on matchups. Could see Gasol close instead of Harrell and maybe Caruso for either Schroder or Pope. I don’t see matthews due to his age and wanting to reduce min come playoffs. Right now Pope and Caruso are better


Not sure Kieff signed on to come back for DNPs also THT will be used plenty in the Load Mgmt games. Otherwise spot on hopefully to what rotations Frank has in mind.
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 23, 2020 12:50 pm    Post subject:

First 30 games:
1st fQ:
KCP
Wes
Lebron
Davis
Gasol

End of 1st

Shroder
Wes
Kuzma
Davis
Montrez

2 quarter

Shroder
Caruso
Kuzma
Kief
Montrez

End 2 quarter
Shroder
KCP
Caruso
Lebron
Davis
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 23, 2020 1:06 pm    Post subject:

I don't think Schroder has to come off the bench just because we expect him to lead the 2nd unit. He and Lebron will play more than 48 minutes combined and will thus overlap at some point. It might as well be the beginning to set the offensive and defensive tone off the bat. We started games too sluggish or stagnant at times last season. We have plenty of energy off the bench between Harrell and Caruso with Morris and Wes being the steadying influences.

Then you stagger Shroder/Gasol with Lebron as the game progresses. Basic principles IMO:

1. Starters: Marc, AD, LBJ, KCP, Schro
2. Always have at least one of Lebron or AD in the game
3. Always have at least one of Lebron or Schro in the game. Marc + Caruso might cut it too in a pinch.
4. Always have at least one rim protector in the game
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 23, 2020 1:56 pm    Post subject:

I agree I think DS starts. I don't think it matters, it's not like there is typically who line up subs....they start together....bron comes out at some point...then when he comes back ...DS can sit etc.

I think it will be

PG - DS/Caruso
SG - KCP/Mathews
SF - Bron/Kuzma
PF - Davis/ Morris
C - Gasol/Trezz

I think our closing lineup will be starters plus Trezz
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 23, 2020 4:27 pm    Post subject:

1st Line
Caruso (1), KCP (2), Bron (3), AD (4), Gasol (5)

2nd Line
Shroder (1), Matthews (2), Kuz(3), Trez (4), Morris (5)

Closers
Shroder (1), KCP (2), Bron(3), Trez (4), AD (5)
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 23, 2020 4:47 pm    Post subject:

Caruso/Dennis/LBJ
KCP/Matthews/Caruso
LBJ/Matthews/Kuzma
AD/Kuzma/Kieff/LBJ
Gasol/Harrell/AD
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 23, 2020 4:50 pm    Post subject:

I love the spacing from the starting 5 and we could have 3 Legit 6moy candidates (if Kuzma plays like I know he can play)
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 23, 2020 4:54 pm    Post subject:

I dont see Caruso starting but wouldn't hate it at all if they did.

I say KCP, LBJ, AD and Gasol are pretty much locks. I believe the final guy will be Wes as he pretty much is a cheaper clone of Green from the last few years.

Wes, Schroder, Caruso or even Kuz which would be an extreme darkhorse could all fill that last starting spot nicely.

It's been said countless times in the last few days but it's insane the amount of options we have across the board and how little the drop off is.
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 23, 2020 4:56 pm    Post subject:

Love the IQ from the front court Lebron, AD, Gasol

I can already see the back door cuts and lobs from Gasol to AD or Lebron and AD to Lebron/ Lebron to AD
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 23, 2020 5:06 pm    Post subject:

Starters
Kuzma (taking over Danny Green role)
Schroeder
Lebron
Gasol
AD

Bench players
Caruso
Matthews
KCP
Harrell
Morris

Deep bench (garbage time players)
McKinnie
THT
Kostas Antetokounmpo
Devontae Cacok

The only way the Lakers are going to find out what they have with Kuzma is to start him. If he does well, they Lakers can trade him for assets or sign him long term. But they need to know what they have now. Kuzma becomes the primary defender against the opponents best backcourt / wing player.
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 23, 2020 5:26 pm    Post subject:

Hopefully its

Kcp
Mathews
Legramps
Davis
Gasol

With schroder coming in early
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