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PostPosted: Sun Nov 22, 2020 10:56 am    Post subject:

Singed as Camp Fodder or to the G-League?
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 22, 2020 11:41 am    Post subject:

Runway8 wrote:
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Joe Ingles, Troy Murphy... lefty or white?


Tinkle, Tinkle, you are star?
How I wonder if you are.
Up above the rim so high,
Like a diamond in the sky.

Tinkle, Tinkle, you are star?
You're Troy Murphy from afar.
If that makes you wanna cry,
Then Joe Ingles is the guy.


I knew it, he’s a lefty
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 22, 2020 3:26 pm    Post subject:

he shot 34% from 3 in college, he's not troy murphy or joe ingles
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 22, 2020 3:52 pm    Post subject:

^ I think they’re banking on the fact that he had an enormously high usage rate in college and so he took a ton of contested shots. We’ll see if they are right.
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 23, 2020 8:51 am    Post subject:

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Joe Ingles, just thinner.




is that good or bad Mike ?


Really really good. It's a case where the skill package is going to make him an NBA player (with NBA level strength once he builds up to it). He's not a guy not going to blow people away with verticality, quickness, and speed, but he can get defenders off position by playing off ball and tremendous shooting gravity.

But, he isn't just a shooter. He actually has court awareness and will dish out to open guys in a timely manner.

His advanced read line basically meets or surpasses every metric you'd want out of a good prospect.

TS% - NBA average
3ptR ~35%
FTr ~ 40%+
TReb ~ 12% (average)
Ast % ~ 20%+ (above average for a wing, there's creation chops in advantage situation out of PnR there)
Stl % ~ 3% (Excellent)
Block % ~ nearly 2%, which is great considering athletic tools
TO% ~ 12% (This is really good)
USG < 30. This part I'm unclear about because he's likely going to project as a role player next level. The question is, will his motor/activity/IQ hold even if USG drops? I'll bet that it will.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NpvDgAkCOeo

He's exactly the type that I would draft in the 2nd round. Being a jack of all trades works best when shooting is the best component to the point of having gravity.

He's got that.

What'll surprise people is 45% of his total shots are at the rim, with 42% of those shots being assisted, which is a really strong indicator of his off ball movement.
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 23, 2020 8:58 am    Post subject:

lakersfan32 wrote:
he shot 34% from 3 in college, he's not troy murphy or joe ingles


Look again.

https://www.basketball-reference.com/international/players/joe-ingles-1.html
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 23, 2020 5:56 pm    Post subject:

Five year senior. Coach's son. The highlights shows it. Nothing out of the scheme. Disciplined. Can score in three levels.

His future comes down to two questions. Can he hold the ground defensively? Facing NBA speed and intensity, can he shoot equally well?
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 23, 2020 6:15 pm    Post subject:

Mike@LG wrote:
lakersfan32 wrote:
he shot 34% from 3 in college, he's not troy murphy or joe ingles


Look again.

https://www.basketball-reference.com/international/players/joe-ingles-1.html


Mike@lg always provides good analysis.
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 23, 2020 9:56 pm    Post subject:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AJxoL5CD7Jw

This video better reveals both pros and cons.
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 24, 2020 8:50 am    Post subject:

LaxT wrote:
Five year senior. Coach's son. The highlights shows it. Nothing out of the scheme. Disciplined. Can score in three levels.

His future comes down to two questions. Can he hold the ground defensively? Facing NBA speed and intensity, can he shoot equally well?


2 levels unfortunately. That midrange area is really iffy.

I wouldn't expect him to break even defensively, but frankly, being a slight negative there but a positive at the offensive end is already a great outcome for a late 1st, let alone a UDFA.
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 24, 2020 9:20 am    Post subject:

LaxT wrote:
Five year senior. Coach's son. The highlights shows it. Nothing out of the scheme. Disciplined. Can score in three levels.



He was on his way to being a first round pick after his freshman year, however, then the injuries started.
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 24, 2020 9:23 am    Post subject:

LakerMindLA wrote:
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Five year senior. Coach's son. The highlights shows it. Nothing out of the scheme. Disciplined. Can score in three levels.



He was on his way to being a first round pick after his freshman year, however, then the injuries started.


A 91 ranked RSCI prospect in 2015 with middling numbers and a part time starter as a freshman?

I question that.
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