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hype
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| krisobe wrote: | 28/17/5 in 29 minutes. Legs looking healthy.
Marc is only getting 19 minutes a game.
If you had to do it again would you have Cousins playing those 18-19 minutes over Marc? |
Absolutely not, his previous game he shot 2-16.. We're loaded offensively and Gasol is a significantly better defender and completely fine with low shot counts.
Awesome to see Cousins out there and starting to look healthy finally and I would have def. took him over Morris but not Gasol. |
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| EchoZulu wrote: | | Just wanted to say that I really, really wanted to keep DMC. |
He’s looked like trash for most of the season. |
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| Posted: Sun Jan 24, 2021 10:02 am Post subject: |
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| hype wrote: | | krisobe wrote: | 28/17/5 in 29 minutes. Legs looking healthy.
Marc is only getting 19 minutes a game.
If you had to do it again would you have Cousins playing those 18-19 minutes over Marc? |
Absolutely not, his previous game he shot 2-16.. We're loaded offensively and Gasol is a significantly better defender and completely fine with low shot counts.
Awesome to see Cousins out there and starting to look healthy finally and I would have def. took him over Morris but not Gasol. |
Yes I agree, it's great to see him out there playing well, but he is not the right fit for the Lakers. We need defense, rebounding, shot blocking, passing etc, and Gasol is a better fit for our team. We need a selfless guy who accepts his role, and Marc does that. Cousins is better for Houston.
I'm not even sure he would have come here for the Morris role either. He needed somewhere to showcase that he's still a prolific player, and Houston provided that opportunity. I wish him all the best, I feel for the guy with what happened and I root for him, but he just was not the fit we needed.
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| mhan00 wrote: | | yinoma2001 wrote: | | troy wrote: | | Kieff for Javele McGee needs to happen. |
What in the?
And you can't trade back for JAV this season. |
Why are people so obsessed with Javale? He got some spectacular blocks, but that was because he was terrible at positional defense and often had to rely on his athleticism to save himself from his own poor defense. Getting a couple of leaping blocks a game is pretty, but it ignores the other half dozen times he gave up penetration or a basket because he wasn’t where he was supposed to be. McGee was fine for what he was and was a great chemistry guy, but here’s a reason he basically didn’t play when the games actually counted. |
tell me about it
throughout the regular season the Lakers were constantly fighting back from early deficits and Mcgee's negative impact on the starting lineups was a big part of that.
And then in the playoffs Vogel decided to stop messing around and put in Kief as the stretch 5 and we played waaaaay better.
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| Posted: Sun Jan 24, 2021 10:34 am Post subject: |
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| Quote: | Kieff for Javele McGee needs to happen.
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Hard pass.
The idea of a 3rd big, and yet, McGee can't defend Jokic anyway, which was the root of the entire conversation of having 5 depth in the first place.
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| Posted: Sun Jan 24, 2021 10:54 am Post subject: |
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| Mike@LG wrote: | | Quote: | Kieff for Javele McGee needs to happen.
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Hard pass.
The idea of a 3rd big, and yet, McGee can't defend Jokic anyway, which was the root of the entire conversation of having 5 depth in the first place. |
Regular season move for a championship level team is counterproductive. Kief was part of our playoff rotation, McGee was towel waving. If McGee gets traded and waived by another team, then I don’t mind seeing him back but to trade our rotation guys is just too shortsighted. |
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| Would be stoked if we can somehow can get Myles Turner on this team, I would even give up Schroeder for him. |
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| Posted: Sun Jan 24, 2021 1:38 pm Post subject: |
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| CRoost wrote: | | Mike@LG wrote: | | Quote: | Kieff for Javele McGee needs to happen.
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Hard pass.
The idea of a 3rd big, and yet, McGee can't defend Jokic anyway, which was the root of the entire conversation of having 5 depth in the first place. |
Regular season move for a championship level team is counterproductive. Kief was part of our playoff rotation, McGee was towel waving. If McGee gets traded and waived by another team, then I don’t mind seeing him back but to trade our rotation guys is just too shortsighted. |
Trading a key playoff player for a regular season one would never be a good idea, but you could at least understand it if we were falling in the standings and seeding mattered. But we have the best record and there’s no HCA this year so it’s very weird to read panicky regressive trade ideas.
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| nets sure seem to want a lot of help. |
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Harris + Dinwiddie + Jordan = ~37.9 mill, Love + McGee = ~35.5 mill
Hope they do it! |
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| Posted: Mon Jan 25, 2021 11:22 am Post subject: |
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| carjoch831 wrote: | Harris + Dinwiddie + Jordan = ~37.9 mill, Love + McGee = ~35.5 mill
Hope they do it! |
they'd be pretty dumb to give up Harris, but i don't care. |
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Clint Capela's last 4 games
22.0 PPG
18.8 RPG
5.5 BPG
1.3 SPG
59 FG%
Maybe the Nets should have went after him while Atlanta was still sleeping. 
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| mad55557777 wrote: | | carjoch831 wrote: | Harris + Dinwiddie + Jordan = ~37.9 mill, Love + McGee = ~35.5 mill
Hope they do it! |
they'd be pretty dumb to give up Harris, but i don't care. |
Don’t solve their defensive issues. Love struggled being the 3rd/2nd option with Lebron and Kyrie. Now becomes the 4th? Love on defense with low IQ McGee? Hope they give up Harris and Jordan. |
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| MJST wrote: | Clint Capela's last 4 games
22.0 PPG
18.8 RPG
5.5 BPG
1.3 SPG
59 FG%
Maybe the Nets should have went after him while Atlanta was still sleeping. |
Capela is a freaking stud I don’t watch many ATL games but he is a load. |
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| #savethekids wrote: | | 32,637 posts of wtf 🕵️♂️🕵️♂️🕵️♂️🕵️♂️🕵️♂️🕵️♂️🕵️♂️🕵️♂️🕵️♂️ |
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Nets hoping for a Drummond buy out according to KOC. Doubtful seeing Cavs are in playoff picture unless they just want to open PT for Allen
Not going to pretend I know a lot about Drummond beyond his stats. High rebounds & unbelievably high turnovers for a big. Someone compared him to Whiteside today. Will get big numbers but little impact on game.
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| miggz23 wrote: | | mad55557777 wrote: | | carjoch831 wrote: | Harris + Dinwiddie + Jordan = ~37.9 mill, Love + McGee = ~35.5 mill
Hope they do it! |
they'd be pretty dumb to give up Harris, but i don't care. |
Don’t solve their defensive issues. Love struggled being the 3rd/2nd option with Lebron and Kyrie. Now becomes the 4th? Love on defense with low IQ McGee? Hope they give up Harris and Jordan. |
Yeah, id be thrilled to see them actually make this trade to say the least. The last thing they need is another really good offensive player who cant play defense and a worse version of there current center.
Then on top of it all they get rid of Harris too? They then become even more top heavy with several of those guys having some big question marks health wise. Hard to imagine they pull the trigger but I wouldn't complain. |
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| We have to get another viable center on this team. Gasol is shot. We may win another title anyway because we're so good, but he's a clear liability. |
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| ChickenStu wrote: | | We have to get another viable center on this team. Gasol is shot. We may win another title anyway because we're so good, but he's a clear liability. |
So far this season he's no greater a liability than McGee was last season (some games, like last night, are worse than others, but on the average, the McGee/Gasol swap is neutral so far). Gasol is only here to soak up regular season minutes (like McGee did last year), and so far he's providing 18 minutes, a tad more than McGee did last year. Meanwhile the team's winning, so I, for one, am fine with where things stand AS LONG AS he is able to continue soaking up 18 minutes for the rest of the regular season; playoffs will be Davis time anyways, McGee didn't do squat in the playoffs last year and maybe Gasol will not either - so I totally don't get the argument that our title chances hinge on Gasol. (Trezz for Howard is another matter).
Now don't get me wrong, I would love it if we're able to get an agile rim-protecting situational 5 as well - at least as insurance since an injury to Gasol would severely downgrade our size and force AD to increase his regular season minutes. |
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Knock on wood, we have been fortunate to have very little in terms of injuries/COVID protocol disruptions. I too would feel more comfortable with one more true center off the bench. Marc strikes me as the most susceptible to injury given his age/weight (still looks really out of shape). I don't want AD playing too many regular season minutes at center, and Kieff/Trezz do not cut it for me as starting centers either.
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Pelicans listening to trade offers for Lonzo and JJ, per Shams.
| Quote: | | The Pelicans, viewed as a key team in NBA trade market, are receiving calls on Lonzo Ball and JJ Redick from interested teams and have shown openness to discussing both, per sources. |
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| drae wrote: | Javale "barely played in the playoffs" McGee
The most valuable part of Javale's skillset was bringing people together kinda like Duds. But why worry about someone who will be played of the court when it matters? |
You fail to understand it the concept behind Javele is that he bought time for Dwight to come in and do his thing, or for AD to slide to the 5. It's not that Javele is an allstar, it's that his presence was the perfect fit for what the Lakers needed last season (the season we won it all, by the way).
Oh, and I've already proven that Javele is better than Gasol. I took the time to break it down; if anyone disagrees, I'd be happy to see your analysis. |
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| ocho wrote: | Pelicans listening to trade offers for Lonzo and JJ, per Shams.
| Quote: | | The Pelicans, viewed as a key team in NBA trade market, are receiving calls on Lonzo Ball and JJ Redick from interested teams and have shown openness to discussing both, per sources. |
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How about a lightly used Dennis S. and salary filler?
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