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PostPosted: Sun Mar 25, 2007 10:41 pm    Post subject: WARRIORS -at- LAKERS - 3/25 - Thoughts and :-)) ratings

Mamba No. 5?... Kobe was looking to stretch his 50-point scoring streak to five straight games. At some point in this one, the drama between Kobe's 50 and the Lakers getting the W seemed to be twin story lines competing for attention. In the end, we got W as the Lakers held on for a 115-113 victory.

The Lakers lost momentum in the second quarter when Kobe wasn't touching the ball. The Warriors started overplaying the passing lanes and we weren't running counters. They went on a 26-9 run. Later, we decided to let Kobe work a little off the dribble from the high screen. Phil also wanted the team to run the rub play a few times, but we botched those. Midway into the fourth quarter, the Lakers put together their only real run of the game as they went on a key 14-0 run to snatch the lead from the Warriors.

Talk about poor offensive execution leading to defensive troubles. Wow. The statbox says it all. The Lakers had 26 total turnovers to the Warriors' 8 miscues. It's another one of those stats that make you wonder how they won they game. But look at the rebounding, the Lakers had 70 boards to the Warriors' 47. We had 11 more offensive boards and limited the second-chances.

Beneath the Kobe story were a couple of great games from others. Those high rebounding numbers were led by LO. Lamar dropped a 24-point, 19-board, 4-steal, 4-assist game. "Anytime you have 20 turnovers against an athletic team like this, that's a game you usually lose," Lamar said. "So, we took away easy opportunities from them on the offensive glass." Ronny Turiaf came off the bench, playing 12 of his 17 minutes in the fourth quarter and sparking the team with tough D and some clutch scores. Defensively, we had little answer for Monta Ellis, who tied his career high with 31 points.


Kobe -- -- Just 43. Just...43. And, you feel a let down, don't you? Lol. "He had an off game," Phil joked. Hey, he's still got a steak of 40+ games going...and there's no telling how many he might score on any given night at this point. The Lakers had been running a ton of offense for Kobe on those weakside, ball reverse, wing iso situations. Teams are starting to get more aggressive in fronting and zoning a bit behind Kobe on those. So, we're going to have to work on a little more variety. Set him up for some double screens, work the rub plays, as well as make teams pay for overplaying him. Run the pinch post, but fake the handoff to him. Slip the screens more on the screen-rolls. You need to do some things to keep the D honest instead of always sitting on his shot or drive. Kobe scored his 43 points on 15-33 shooting (4-11 from three, 9-11 from the line), he grabbed 9 boards and had 0 assists with 7 turnovers. Kobe played 46:22, extended minutes again. Prior to the game, Kobe was ranked 4th in the NBA in minutes per game (40.3). First Quarter: He opened up like he was going to bust out a big game. He pulled down an offensive board, attacked and finished with his left. He touch-passed an outlet to Luke who hit Smush for the And-1. With the shotclock low, he drained a wing three on his first perimeter attempt. He pulled up and hit a jumper standing on the three line next time down. Out in transition 2-on-1, he held it and scored a layup over the defender. He missed his next three shots: a three, a wing jumper where he got hit in the face, and a 30-footer. He attacked through traffic, spun and finger rolled with his left. He cut behind his man and took a bounce pass from Luke and was fouled, he made both. He got the ball on iso at the wing and swished a 19-footer. He ballfaked to lose a defender, took a dribble in and hit the baseline jumper over the help defender. He got tapped on a pull-up 15-footer. He picked up a tech after missing a bank and not getting a call. He finished the first quarter with 17 points and a 10-point lead. Second Quarter: He attacked across the lane, spun the opposite direction and hit a floater. He missed a difficult runner from 15-feet out. He sat with a 13-point lead at the 7 minute mark. By the time he touched the ball again (missing a backdoor lob tap in) the lead was down to 4. He banked in a shot on his first attempt on a jumper since returning. He had 21 points at the half on 9-18 shooting. Third Quarter: He missed a three. He missed a pull-up jumper with a man right on him. He missed a turnaround. He hit a tech FT. He charged in transition to erase a score. He let one defender fly by on a pumpfake, then swished a three and was fouled by the next defender, he made the FT for the four-point play. He missed a pull-up off the high-screen roll (might have been the first time they ran it), we got the miss back and Kobe banked in a jumper from the wing. He missed a corner three, the rebound bounced right back to him and he swished the three. He missed another three. He had 31 points. Fourth Quarter: He swished about a 30-footer straight away. He pulled up in transition next time down and hit a long two with his toe on the line. The team really seemed to get their spark back at this point. He missed his next three. He got into the lane, lost several defenders and hit a step-through. He got hammered on a jumper for FTs, he made both. He missed a three. He threw a long outlet to Luke too far and we turned the ball over with under 30 seconds left. He made one of two FTs with 19.6 left to lead by two, luckily Lamar fought for the missed FT and was fouled. He was fouled with 0.9 seconds left and made one of two.

Lamar -- -- It seemed like anytime there was a miss, Lamar was in there with that long reach of his controlling the glass. Lamar tied his career high with 19 boards, 14 on the defensive end. He was efficient offensively, scoring 24 points on 8-11 shooting and 8-10 from the line. Kobe and Lamar were a hell of a one-two punch tonight, combining for 67 points and 28 boards. Wow. Lamar took a shot to his left arm in the middle of the game and was in obvious shoulder pain...but he bounced back and pressed on, playing 41:20 of action. Prior to the game, Lamar ranked 10th in the NBA in minutes per game (39.4). Too many rebounds to note, but he was working the glass all game long. The biggest rebound was near the end of the game off a missed FT. Lamar picked up two fouls and had to sit midway through the first quarter. He had to play cautious defensively the rest of the half. Smush found him under the hoop against the zone for a reverse layup. He posted up the smaller man and scored easily. He hit a stepback fade from the top of the key. He stepped around his man and flipped in a layup. He cut down the lane, took a pass from Kobe and drew FTs, he made both. He attacked to his strong side, drew a foul and missed both FTs. He missed at the front of the rim, went to tip it in and took contact on his left arm and went down in pain, he made both FTs after a timeout. He swished a baseline jumper. He missed a three. He traveled in the lane. He cleaned up a miss by Smush, taking contact with no call and banking it in. He attacked off the dribble and was tripped, he made both FTs. Kobe missed a three, Lamar took the board and powered it back in to give the Lakers a one-point lead. He had his dribble picked off for a dunk the other way. He knocked a ball loose, Luke scooped it up and took it down court, fed back to LO who scored the layup. Somehow he lost a jumpball to Davis with a minute left to go. Great job getting the missed FT by Kobe with 18 seconds left, he was fouled and made both.

Luke -- -- Luke led the team in assists with 8. He again came up with some huge setups for our bigmen late in the game. He scored 6 points on 2-7 shooting (2-4 from three) and grabbed 6 boards in 32 minutes. He hit Smush trailing the break for the And-1. He pushed out the break, held it up, then made a pretty pass to Kobe who cut baseline and it drew a foul. He swished a wing three off the weave at the end of the quarter. He missed a turnaround. He had the ball stolen (he had 2 turnovers). He sank a wide open three from the corner. He hit Smush with a between-the-legs pass and Smush drew FTs on the attack. Then came the key setups for the bigmen in the fourth quarter: He attacked the paint off the dribble and fed Ronny for a layup. He attacked from the perimeter, Ronny cut to him and Luke fed him for a layup. He scooped up a loose ball, pushed out the dribble, drew the D and fed LO for the layup.

Kwame -- -- Well, better job on the glass, but Kwame was far too turnover prone in this one. He traveled twice trying to make post moves, and he threw the ball away twice. He had 5 turnovers in 24 minutes to go with his 4 points (2-3 shooting) and 6 boards. He took an entry from Sasha and flipped it in as he was falling backward. He dunked when Cook spotted him open under the hoop.

Smush -- -- Difficult game when you are coming off an ankle twist and have to deal with the Warrior guards. Smush kept his streak of starting games alive, despite the ankle injury. He had soem good moments early on, but Phil later went with Shammond, who played the final 13:43 of the game. Smush scored 13 points on 4-7 shooting (5-7 from the line), had 3 boards, 5 assists with 3 turnovers and 2 steals. Prior to the game, Smush ranked 13th in total steals (102) and 16th in steals per game (1.48). He stole the ball on one end early on, outlet to Kobe who hit Luke, Smush trailed and scored an And-1 layup, he made the FT. He posted up Baron, had the ball tipped loose, held onto it and scored. He hit a floater over a big in transition. He was tripped in transition and made both FTs. He spotted Lamar under the hoop against the zone for a layup. He had a pass picked off for a score the other way. He was fouled on the perimeter and made both FTs. He scored a breakaway layup. He had the ball stolen for a score the other way. Nice hustle to get to a couple of loose balls. He attacked off a pass from Luke and drew FTs, he missed both.

Bynum -- -- Another lively game from Bynum. Whether it's the ankle feeling better, or more likely, just being able to get a bit more rest, Bynum has had that hop in his step the last two games. He played just 12 minutes, but was productive, scoring 8 points on 2-5 shooting, grabbing 7 boards (4 offensive) and blocking 1 shot. Prior to the game, Bynum ranked 9th in the NBA in blocks per 48 minutes (3.32) and 16th in overall blocks (109). Very nice production in limited minutes. He missed a jumphook on his first attempt. Next time down, he dropstepped Biedrins and dunked on him. He fought for an offensive board, powered up and banked in a score. He cleaned up another Kobe miss with a putback score. He took a kickout from Luke, spun on his man and drew FTs, he made one. Nice swat on Ellis, sending the ball into the crowd. Unfortunately, he sagged off his man and gave up a jumper at the end of the half. He contested a shot, pulled down the board and drew a foul, he made one FT. He had an interior feed from Shammond bounce off his chest, rare non-catch by Drew.

Turiaf -- -- He led the team with a +10. Whether it was contesting shots on D, yanking down boards or getting key scores, Ronny was in the mix with some big plays when we needed them. He gives the Warriors fits on both ends and had that sensational game against them earlier in the season. He scored 7 points on 3-6 shooting, pulled down 5 boards and blocked 2 shots in 16:55 of clock. All of his points came in the fourth. He posted up and hit an And-1 jumphook, he missed the FT. Great swat on SJax, coming over to save a hoop after Jackson had posted up Shammond. On the other end, he took the Luke pass in traffic and scored a layup, he then skipped back to the sideline for a timeout. Great curl cut toward Luke on the next trip down and he scored a layup with his left after getting the pass. He pulled down a Kobe missed three in a crowd with 1:02 left and was fouled, he made one FT, but kept the missed FT alive and Lamar tied up Davis for a jumpball. He spiked an Ellis layup to the floor with a clutch rejection.

Shammond -- -- Shammond led the bench in minutes, playing 20:19 in this one. He made just 1-5 attempts, but had 3 assits without a turnover. Phil went to Shammond at the PG spot for the final 13:43. He missed an open three at the top of the key. Ellis dribbled the ball off his foot in the backcourt, so Shammond picked it up and swished a three while the rest of the team was heading down court. He missed his next attempt from three.

Cook -- -- After his turn on the IR with the ankle bug, he was back. Looked rusty, too. He missed a long wing jumper. He hit Kwame under the hoop with a 25-foot pass for a dunk. He threw a pass right out of bounds, thinking Kobe wasn't going to stay in the post. He didn't score in two attempts in 4 minutes.

Vujacic -- -- Better game from Sasha. He gave the team a little punch with a couple of big three bombs. Of course, that's all he took again. He went 2-5 from three for 7 points, grabbed 5 boards and dished 3 assists without a turnover in 15 minutes. He drained a corner three after Kobe had a ball knocked loose right to him. He swished an And-1 three from the top of the key, he made the FT for a four-point play. He missed a three set up for him out of a timeout again. The D left him alone again and he missed a three. We need to have guys knock down some of those open looks if teams are going to completely commit to taking the ball out of Kobe's hands. Defensively, Sasha was Sasha. Feisty, but no impact.

Phil -- -- Nothing probably irks Phil more than a massive outbreak of turnovers. The Lakers somehow survived 26 of them... The Lakers trailed by 7 after a 13-1 run by the Warriors before Phil called a timeout in the third... We ran the high screen-roll with Kobe/Cook after not getting the ball into Kobe's hands and losing our lead. Unfortunately, Cook wasn't hitting his couple of shots, or securing boards, so Phil pulled him. If Cook hits, that makes things a lot easier on Kobe... The team is now something like 8-0 when Phil cancels game-day shoot arounds... Phil went with both Shammond at PG and Turiaf at C in the fourth quarter. Check out Popcorn's Game Flow to see his substitution pattern...


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PostPosted: Sun Mar 25, 2007 11:20 pm    Post subject:

first post

nice analysis
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 25, 2007 11:30 pm    Post subject:

Good job DB, hey 43! in an "off night".
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 26, 2007 12:09 am    Post subject: Re: WARRIORS -at- LAKERS - 3/25 - Thoughts and :-)) ratings

DancingBarry wrote:
Mamba No. 5?... Kobe was looking to stretch his 50-point scoring streak to five straight games. At some point in this one, the drama between Kobe's 50 and the Lakers getting the W seemed to be twin story lines competing for attention. In the end, we got W as the Lakers held on for a 115-133 victory.


A small typo error there
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 26, 2007 12:11 am    Post subject:

Only 190 views before someone brought it up.

Thanks.
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 26, 2007 1:05 am    Post subject:

Can someone also fill me in on the match up for Kobe, on both defense and offense? and also why is Ellis able to have such big night? was it a match up problem? scoring off turn over? fast break?

I am glad to see a off shooting from j.richardson, i assume Kobe did a good defense on him?
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 26, 2007 4:45 am    Post subject:

thanks DB.
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 26, 2007 5:47 am    Post subject:

jsi106 wrote:
Can someone also fill me in on the match up for Kobe, on both defense and offense? and also why is Ellis able to have such big night? was it a match up problem? scoring off turn over? fast break?

I am glad to see a off shooting from j.richardson, i assume Kobe did a good defense on him?


Monta Ellis is just super quick. You can't really defend that unless you anticipate properly, but anticipating is a crap shoot.

Is this a frustrating game for Kobe? I know I really shouldn't feel bad for him, but he went on a stretch of 50+ games, then this one was looking like a blowout and he would be able to rest some more. But then the 19 point lead turned into a 10 point deficit, and no one could hit a shot (until Turiaf came in). Kobe had to go into assassin mode again. Is this the way it is going to be the rest of the year? Will someone step up and help out when Kobe gets double or triple teamed?

For all the people who complain about him, this is exactly the situation Cook is really good for. Bryant will find Cook and when his jumper is on, he will be able to spell Kobe for a couple of baskets.
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 26, 2007 5:53 am    Post subject:

By the way, let us not forget we now have our longest winning streak of the season at 5 games. This is our longest winning streak since we went on a five-game winning streak at the end of the last season.
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 26, 2007 6:53 am    Post subject:

sad to see Kobe's streak end, but happy for the W. If we didnt win I would have blamed the loss on Phil for not calling a timeout in the 2nd Qtr to stop the Warriors run. I mean we were almost up by 20 in the 2nd Qtr and was barely leading at the half. L.O. was a beast on the boards and got no love from the refs in the paint.
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 26, 2007 7:52 am    Post subject:

Kobe's streak may have ended, but the important one, the win streak, continues.

Kobe seemed destined for another fifty early on, but when GS started denying, the Lakers didn't counter well. So they tried to force it, which took them out of their offense and led to the rash of TO's. Still, Kobe was able to put it together in the clutch (sans the 2 missed FTs).

Gee, LO with 24/19. Hardly noticed. Just as Kobe has streaked, LO has as well. He's certainly one of the ones who've been energized by the 50-string.

Shamu had one of those "No, no, no, no, yessss" shots which may have been the difference in the game. Ellis dribbled the ball off his own foot. Shamu picks it up and, without any rebounders in sight, takes a 3 and makes it.

Ronny's energy also saved the day, offensively and defensively. Of all the Lakers, I really enjoy seeing him do well.
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 26, 2007 8:12 am    Post subject:

Is it just me or did Bynum look a lot more athletic out there? That drop step and dunk was very Shaq-esque. Either his ankles must be feeling a lot better, or, and this is what I'm hoping for, his training has finally "kicked in."
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 26, 2007 1:06 pm    Post subject:

Earlier in the year they would have lost this game. Recently they're doing what it takes to win, as opposed to doing what it took to lose. The late-game poise has been a relief -- even if they do keep us guessing down to the wire...
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 26, 2007 3:29 pm    Post subject: Re: WARRIORS -at- LAKERS - 3/25 - Thoughts and :-)) ratings

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Mamba No. 5?...

How do you come up with these?
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 26, 2007 4:54 pm    Post subject:

thanks, DB...
i was at the game and -as i always do- tried to check first of all the body language of the players, and i saw that we are really a weird team... able to light fire, when kobe takes responsability of the game and when certain role players -especially luke and turiaf- put some special energy... but also unbelievably soft... i was at courtside, so i saw the eyes of kwame, cook or smush and most of the times i saw nothing at all... lamar is the epytome of this attitude: when the team struggled he was useless, when someone lights the fire, he came with great energy and all his terrific talent...
btw, kobe scoring 43 in a "game off" is the proof that he's definitely a superior entity...
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 26, 2007 5:11 pm    Post subject:

^It was definitely an interesting game in that regard. You could really see the ebb and flow feeding off Kobe and Ronny's energy last night. Luke does bring that, too, when the ball is in his hands.

Lamar has always been caught in between. When he was an opponent, I'd relax when he was drifting, but when he would start to impose his will he'd really make you worry. But he's always sort of battled with that. Hopefully, Kobe's center of gravity will start to pull him in the right direction.

I think we also miss Mo's energy a bit, too. He may be inconsistent as hell and average at somethings, but there were games where you could see his energy level deflate some opponents and be a little contageous for our guys.

Hopefully, we can improve on some of our weaknesses in this area this offseason.
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 26, 2007 5:13 pm    Post subject:

DancingBarry wrote:
^It was definitely an interesting game in that regard. You could really see the ebb and flow feeding off Kobe and Ronny's energy last night. Luke does bring that, too, when the ball is in his hands.

Lamar has always been caught in between. When he was an opponent, I'd relax when he was drifting, but when he would start to impose his will he'd really make you worry. But he's always sort of battled with that. Hopefully, Kobe's center of gravity will start to pull him in the right direction.

I think we also miss Mo's energy a bit, too. He may be inconsistent as hell and average at somethings, but there were games where you could see his energy level deflate some opponents and be a little contageous for our guys.

Hopefully, we can improve on some of our weaknesses in this area this offseason.


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PostPosted: Mon Mar 26, 2007 5:15 pm    Post subject:

8750 wrote:
thanks, DB...
i was at the game and -as i always do- tried to check first of all the body language of the players, and i saw that we are really a weird team... able to light fire, when kobe takes responsability of the game and when certain role players -especially luke and turiaf- put some special energy... but also unbelievably soft... i was at courtside, so i saw the eyes of kwame, cook or smush and most of the times i saw nothing at all... lamar is the epytome of this attitude: when the team struggled he was useless, when someone lights the fire, he came with great energy and all his terrific talent...
btw, kobe scoring 43 in a "game off" is the proof that he's definitely a superior entity...


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PostPosted: Mon Mar 26, 2007 5:16 pm    Post subject:

Hoping Lamar turns the corner, not expecting it, though.
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 26, 2007 7:49 pm    Post subject:

do you ever take a break from trashing the guy MB?
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 26, 2007 9:03 pm    Post subject:

ocho wrote:
do you ever take a break from trashing the guy MB?


Not when DB and others mentioned the topic at hand. Those are my exact concerns with LO.

Why must I play the role of homer and act LO floating in and out of games as the Invisible Man doesn't happen?
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 26, 2007 9:12 pm    Post subject:

^i think you guys egg him on way too much.
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