Joined: 21 May 2001 Posts: 11831 Location: West LA
Posted: Sun Jan 17, 2016 9:45 am Post subject:
Charles Martin got gifted a championship belt He's tryin' to call out the top guys, but nothing I saw makes me say he could handle any of them. Anthony Jshua would eat him alive.
Deontay's ko of Spilka was beautifully placed. He listened to his corner perfectly. His chief 2nd told him Spilka was leaning to his right and he should throw the right exactly to where he's going to lean...Bam, perfect placement while Spilka was rushing in.
David Haye's comeback fight
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What came to mind when Wilder landed the punch was Foreman vs Fraizer. Looked liked Szpilka came off the floor same way Frazier did. _________________ Be who you are and say what you feel because those who mind don't matter and those who matter don't mind.
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Posted: Thu Jan 21, 2016 9:12 am Post subject:
Can I just say, that I love the fact that the heavyweight division finally seems to be making a comeback. With young talents like Wilder, Joshua, Ortiz...Those 3 could be the current generations version of Holyfield, Tyson, Lewis!...That is, if they keep entertaining the fans with skill and importantly, one punch ko power! _________________ Just chill and watch the new Dynasty evolve...
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Posted: Fri Jan 22, 2016 11:00 pm Post subject:
Jarrell Miller looks like he could make some noise if he were to get in better shape. He has power and when he puts his mind to it some good boxing skills. He had Donovan Dennis out on his feet in the first round, didn't finish him. When he got his second wind, started to box he showed some skills. The KO was vicious. Dennis's hand were down, he was out on his feet. The stoppage was on time.
Rob Brant also shows promise. He's not listed as a power puncher but the KO of Perez was instant. He went through the ropes and back. Second time he's been down, first time out. Brant does has some power and also boxing skills.
I only watch those two. Good fights. Thank for the heads up L_D _________________ Be who you are and say what you feel because those who mind don't matter and those who matter don't mind.
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I'm ok with the decision but Danny didn't show me much at 147. I think Thurman, Porter, Bradley and Brooklyn give him a very hard time. Provodnikov as well 147.
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Posted: Sun Jan 24, 2016 8:56 am Post subject:
I actually had Guerrero winning the fight.
Also, what the heck is up with fighters being gifted tko's due to injury, so far this year? _________________ Just chill and watch the new Dynasty evolve...
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Joined: 05 Apr 2004 Posts: 291 Location: Arlington, VA
Posted: Sun Jan 24, 2016 1:43 pm Post subject:
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I actually had Guerrero winning the fight.
I had it 8-4 for Garcia. Guerrero looked better than I thought he would (i.e., the guy is far from washed up) and was arguably ahead early. But Garcia actually boxed a bit better than I thought he could... he made the proper adjustments in the 2nd half of the fight and outboxed a guy in Guerrero who is probably a better pure boxer than he is.
I was (mildly) impressed with the way Garcia boxed last night, though I don't see him beating Thurman - or even Porter - down the road. Also have doubts he would beat Khan (who is now his mandatory) in a rematch unless he gets the KO again.
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Posted: Sun Jan 24, 2016 1:52 pm Post subject:
Laker_Dynasty wrote:
Also, what the heck is up with fighters being gifted tko's due to injury, so far this year?
Could be wrong but I think any injury that is deemed the result of a legal punch is considered a TKO if the injured fighter cannot continue... this would include things like falling awkwardly and injuring your knee as the result of a punch. Am thinking it's presumed injuries are the result of a legal punch unless it was clear (or ruled by the ref) that that was not the case.
The Monsour injury was clearly the result of a legal punch; Monsour couldn't continue so that was clearly a correct TKO stoppage. Not completely clear to me what the Aaron Martinez injury was or what caused it but I guess it was presumed to be caused by a legal punch therefore the stoppage since Martinez didn't come out for the next round...
Joined: 21 May 2001 Posts: 11831 Location: West LA
Posted: Mon Jan 25, 2016 5:25 pm Post subject:
Osei wrote:
Laker_Dynasty wrote:
I actually had Guerrero winning the fight.
I had it 8-4 for Garcia. Guerrero looked better than I thought he would (i.e., the guy is far from washed up) and was arguably ahead early. But Garcia actually boxed a bit better than I thought he could... he made the proper adjustments in the 2nd half of the fight and outboxed a guy in Guerrero who is probably a better pure boxer than he is.
I was (mildly) impressed with the way Garcia boxed last night, though I don't see him beating Thurman - or even Porter - down the road. Also have doubts he would beat Khan (who is now his mandatory) in a rematch unless he gets the KO again.
From what I remember, this is how I scored the fight. After the 5th, I had Guerrero up 4 - 1. After the 9th, I had it 5-4 Garcia, with Guerrero winning the 10-12th. Some of those early rounds, and possibly the 11th, I think were close, which could be where the difference is with my card vs. what the judges had (but I, without a doubt, had Guerrero winning 10 and 12). I thought Danny, even though he was trying to box, was still getting tagged by Guerrero. They weren't extremely hard shots, Guerrero was landing, but he was landing enough punches to have Danny cut up and swelling.
What's interesting about Danny is that, I had him already losing to Herrera and one other fighter (maybe it was Zab Judah?) before, at 140. I think he would've lost easily to Amir, if Amir didn't have such a glass jaw. I'd still give Danny a punchers chance against Amir. _________________ Just chill and watch the new Dynasty evolve...
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Posted: Mon Jan 25, 2016 5:43 pm Post subject:
Osei wrote:
Laker_Dynasty wrote:
Also, what the heck is up with fighters being gifted tko's due to injury, so far this year?
Could be wrong but I think any injury that is deemed the result of a legal punch is considered a TKO if the injured fighter cannot continue... this would include things like falling awkwardly and injuring your knee as the result of a punch. Am thinking it's presumed injuries are the result of a legal punch unless it was clear (or ruled by the ref) that that was not the case.
The Monsour injury was clearly the result of a legal punch; Monsour couldn't continue so that was clearly a correct TKO stoppage. Not completely clear to me what the Aaron Martinez injury was or what caused it but I guess it was presumed to be caused by a legal punch therefore the stoppage since Martinez didn't come out for the next round...
That heavyweight, Charles Martin, didn't win by punching a guy. I forgot the Russian's name, but all he did was step back, while Charles completely missed all punches being thrown, and the Russian's knee just gave out!...LOL. That was the biggest gift that guy could ever get as a prize fighter! No way he could handle any of the top guys, from what I saw in the few rounds that fight went.
Monsour, yeah, he broke his jaw via a punch (it was just like Victor Ortiz quitting on his stool), which was such a shame. Thing is, I had Monsour dominating that fight, so if there were a rematch, I think Monsour would still beat Brazeale. I guess Martin and Brazeale could fight...LOL.
Aaron Martinez hurt his hand, from what I remember. Based on the way he fought against Guerrero and Devon Alexander, I highly doubt that Vasquez hurt him enough to end it by a punch, even though I like Vasquez's skills. _________________ Just chill and watch the new Dynasty evolve...
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Posted: Thu Jan 28, 2016 4:50 pm Post subject:
Floyd had it closer to what I had:
Difference for me was I gave Guerrero rounds 10-12 and he had Guerrero winning 11-12, which is where his draw came. _________________ Just chill and watch the new Dynasty evolve...
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What came to mind when Wilder landed the punch was Foreman vs Fraizer. Looked liked Szpilka came off the floor same way Frazier did.
Which one?? Lol.
The only thing Foreman didn't hit Frazier with was the referee.
LOL.
Danny.. the last time he didn't win a controversial decision.. don't remember.
I'd say he beat Guerrero. Beat Malignaggi. Peterson was controversial but Peterson F'd that up. Killed Salka. Beat Matthysse but was losing until Matthysse's eye got pregnant. And lost to Herrera.
He's had a few close calls. Love his résumé because he's fought top guys but you can't keep running across the 405 at 5:30 pm. Eventually traffic is going to lighten up.
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