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| kcxiv wrote: | He has Dyslexia or (bleep). I know people who are like that as well. They can write the words just fine, but when it comes to reading its like they see things differently. I have it, but not as bad. My only issues is like when i read a magazine ill read it from the back forwards. Like ill read the back articles then the middle then the beggining. lol
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You might be totally right. From listening to the clip, he could have it. He was pausing where he didn't need to pause and then other words that were later in the paragraph, he was reading early.
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| jodeke wrote: | | Ted wrote: | | jodeke wrote: | | Ted wrote: | | If you watched the post-fight presser and his interviews afterwards, you can tell that Maidana got Floyd unnerved. He got hit with some big shots today and a fat lip to boot. He stated that he's lost the passion to fight and didn't feel good today. His age is definitely showing. If he wants to keep that zero, he needs to avoid Pacquiao and Amir Khan. Floyd's last four fights have been against slow, flat-footed, come forward fighter (Ortiz, Guerrero, Canelo, Maidana). He's going to struggle against speed, especially at this age. I'd be interested to see who he'll fight next, there's not many options left. Look for Mayweather to avoid those two guys though. |
Mayweather vs Maidana post fight press conference
What presser were you watching? Maidana didn't take anything out of Floyd, 15 rounds of boxing did. How in the hell did you glean he was unnerved?
He said he felt better in his last fight. I never heard him say he's lost the passion to fight. Listen to the question around 17:00 into the interview.
Man why are you making ish up? If you don't like Floyd, fine, but why are you making ish up ish, that can be proven wrong on tape? |
He didn't say that in the presser, I read that comment on twitter that was trending so I assumed it was said in the aftermath of the fight. In the presser, he was very subdued and he looked unnerved, not his usual jovial self. I think fighting Maidana took a lot of out him and made him feel every one of his 37 years of age. |
Twitter, you gotta be ishing me Twitter?. You base your post on what someone on Twitter said. SMH. Assume, you know what that does, makes a ASS out of U and ME
You're totally discounting Floyd had just gone 12 grueling rounds with a very tough opponent, he was tired man, tired.
Floyd gave Marcos his props, said he was a tough opponent. When asked about his age he didn't say it wasn't a factor, didn't say it was. He said people don't understand what it takes to promote a fight and talked about all he had to do and how much that took out of him.
He said he's in shape and knows how to handle the long grueling fights, been there, done that.
You seem only to see what you want to see. |
jodeke, unfortunately this is how strong the hate for floyd is.
I always tell my friends to just be objective and they label me a floyd lover. I'm like yea no, i'm just trying to see things from an objective stance.
Also - to whoever said 'just take the 115 mill, its that easy'.. i dont think its that easy. The beef between floyd and arum is well documented. I'm not sure floyd wants to just throw money in arum's pocket. He could probably round up his contract with showtime, then give canelo a rematch and make $100mill off of that.. plus he sticks it to arum. So it's actually harder than you think. |
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There's only one thing I wish Floyd would've done differently in the last fight. He was moving much better in this fight, but I wish he would've stopped and thrown out quick combinations, like he did against Corrales. What I haven't liked about Floyd, since he became the cash cow, is his resorting to pot shotting when he still obviously has the quicks and smarts to get in and get out. His hand speed is still there. His legs may not be as quick as they once were, but I just wish that he'd have a closer approach to Sugar Ray Leonard, rather than protecting that 0 in his final years.
I re-watched the Leonard vs. Hagler fight and after re-watching it, I had Ray Leonard winning majority of the rounds. And there were moments the guy threw 10 punch combinations and got out, before Hagler could even get 1 punch in! Sick! After re-watching that, I kept thinking to myself...damn, if only Floyd would throw combinations like that...again (he did it at the lower weights).
All-in-all, I hate the fact that Mayweather vs. Pacquiao will always be a "what if" fight, rather than saying that we got to see two (2) of the greatest, in this era, go at it. I guess I'm just spoiled, being from Gen X, and having the honor of seeing the greats in the 80's and 90's take on the best. I wish I was alive to see Ali, Frazier, Foreman, and all of those great heavyweights in their primes.
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| The money is not coming from Arum it is being offered as purse money by one of the sultans in Dubai. He wont make 100 million on an Alvarez fight. Pacquiao is just easy work according to the Floyd camp. Sign and just go get your retirement money. Afterward he can get Manny to make him some sushi roll and some rice. |
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To squash the possibility of a Pacquiao fight next (assuming Manny beats Aglieri)
http://www.espn.co.uk/boxing/sport/story/343971.html
Mayweather Promotions doesn't function without a partner, which would be Golden Boy. I don't think HBO would give up the shot to co-broadcast that fight, so there will still be all the old and new hangups, to make the fight happen.
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MAYWEATHER TO MAKE CHANGES TO TEAM
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BT: Floyd, your corner looked a little different in this fight than it has in the past. Some people are speculating that there might be some issues going on with your team. Is there any truth to that?
FM: Well, I like to keep my fans and everybody updated on what's really going on in the Mayweather camp and in the Mayweather world, but as of right now, I can't really say who's in or who's out; I can't really say at this particular time. I don't want people to think my life is perfect. I strive to be a perfectionist, but my life ain't perfect.
BT: It sounds like something is going on. I know Rafael Garcia didn't seem too happy about something on fight night.
FM: Rafael Garcia is feeling a certain type of way because Bob Ware, AKA "Do It All" Bob, he wrapped my hands. Rafael is one of the best hand and eye specialists in the world. He's one of the best, if not the best, but even Alex [Ariza] was able to show Rafael some different things, which was great, and then Bob, he wrapped my hands in training camp and it was the best it felt in my life. I've never had my hands wrapped like that in 37 years. But I told Rafael that we work together as one, as a team, and his pay is not going to change. I told him there's enough to go around. On Saturday night, Rafael Garcia was in Mickey Bey's corner working and in the middle of the fight, he left Mickey Bey to come back in the back to wrap my hands. I told him that I believe in doing good business and he needs to go back to work Mickey Bey's corner. This was the biggest fight of Mickey Bey's life. We have a well-rounded team. We got other guys that can wrap. We got other guys that can do cuts. They might not be able to work cuts like Rafael, but we got guys that can wrap good. I mean, you're not going to find somebody who can wrap hands or do cuts like Rafael because he's a legend. He has videos that he's extremly good on, but when it comes to wrapping hands, you know, Rafael Garcia is still one of the best, but the best I've ever had my hands wrapped was by "Do It All" Bob. The Nevada Commission said that they had never seen anyone wrapping hands like Bob Ware. I love Rafael Garcia, but we're one team. Basically Rafael said, "I've known you longer." Rafael, no matter who is wrapping my hands, you should want the best for me because it's all about the talent. If the talent wins, we all win. If the talent lose, we all lose. I think once Rafael got his check, the way he came by, he was like, "I'm through," like that's it. You know, of course I want him to be on my team, but even if he's not, that still don't take away from God-given ability to have good hands and good feet, so with or without anyone in my training camp, I'm still gonna be able to fight. But I love Rafael and I'm going to always love him, but I don't know who's out and who's in. I don't know if Rafael Garcia left me. I don't know.
BT: There's also been some rumors regarding Leonard Ellerbe and Mayweather Promotions...
FM: (Cutting in) Leonard, I think we're just getting to a point where we're outgrowing each other. I think I just see things my way and I think he sees things in another way. For example, this time around when I went out and fought, my WBC and WBA titles in both weight classes were on the line and I didn't approve of that at all. That's something I didn't approve of. Also, my daughter was sitting in the front row and her mother wasn't sitting next to her, so the ticket arrangements were totally wrong. It just got to a point to where everyone wants to do what they want to do instead of communicating and compromising like we used to. We got to this point by us communicating and compromising. If I'm not mistaken, my dad wasn't able to work [Andrew] Tabiti's corner, his fighter. My dad, he got all his stuff, the things that he needed for the fight, extremely late. That's just very unprofessional. There's just a lot of other things within our team that's just not right. Leonard wasn't in my corner, so, you know, it's not any hard feelings. It's just people outgrow one another. I'm not mad at him. There's no hard feeling like I hate the guy; not at all. No hard feelings whatsoever. People just outgrow one another, just like when people get a divorce. They're no longer on the same page mentally.
Ben, it's just I'm growing in a different direction from everybody else. I'm at a new place in my life and I'm trying to get better. Even though I'm 37, I'm trying to get better and I want to become better and I want my team to become better, and if you're not on the same page as me, then there's nothing I can really say or do but say it's time for you to do your own thing since people may not want to do things the way I want to do things or communicate or compromise. There's no way that I go beat these fighters for these titles and then without me saying anything, someone tells me I got four titles on the line at two different weight classes. When I beat that guy for just one belt, I had three belts and beat him for one belt, and the next fight, after he already loses to me, I come back and say, here, I'm gonna fight you for four belts in two different weight classes? Come on, man. It doesn't make any sense; I don't think so.
BT: Do you feel like people are starting to do things behind your back without your knowledge?
FM: I just want to be able to communicate with anybody that I work with. Once people start making power moves without communicating with me, then I think it's time for us to move our separate ways. I mean, I'm glad the fight is over with, but I think when May comes around and you guys see All Access in May, I'll have a totally new team and probably a totally new staff. We may make a lot of changes in my team, but Al Haymon ain't going nowhere. |
It would have mattered if he had about 15 fights left. Seems like Ellerbe and Garcia are on the outs. |
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| doughboy90650 wrote: | MAYWEATHER TO MAKE CHANGES TO TEAM
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BT: Floyd, your corner looked a little different in this fight than it has in the past. Some people are speculating that there might be some issues going on with your team. Is there any truth to that?
FM: Well, I like to keep my fans and everybody updated on what's really going on in the Mayweather camp and in the Mayweather world, but as of right now, I can't really say who's in or who's out; I can't really say at this particular time. I don't want people to think my life is perfect. I strive to be a perfectionist, but my life ain't perfect.
BT: It sounds like something is going on. I know Rafael Garcia didn't seem too happy about something on fight night.
FM: Rafael Garcia is feeling a certain type of way because Bob Ware, AKA "Do It All" Bob, he wrapped my hands. Rafael is one of the best hand and eye specialists in the world. He's one of the best, if not the best, but even Alex [Ariza] was able to show Rafael some different things, which was great, and then Bob, he wrapped my hands in training camp and it was the best it felt in my life. I've never had my hands wrapped like that in 37 years. But I told Rafael that we work together as one, as a team, and his pay is not going to change. I told him there's enough to go around. On Saturday night, Rafael Garcia was in Mickey Bey's corner working and in the middle of the fight, he left Mickey Bey to come back in the back to wrap my hands. I told him that I believe in doing good business and he needs to go back to work Mickey Bey's corner. This was the biggest fight of Mickey Bey's life. We have a well-rounded team. We got other guys that can wrap. We got other guys that can do cuts. They might not be able to work cuts like Rafael, but we got guys that can wrap good. I mean, you're not going to find somebody who can wrap hands or do cuts like Rafael because he's a legend. He has videos that he's extremly good on, but when it comes to wrapping hands, you know, Rafael Garcia is still one of the best, but the best I've ever had my hands wrapped was by "Do It All" Bob. The Nevada Commission said that they had never seen anyone wrapping hands like Bob Ware. I love Rafael Garcia, but we're one team. Basically Rafael said, "I've known you longer." Rafael, no matter who is wrapping my hands, you should want the best for me because it's all about the talent. If the talent wins, we all win. If the talent lose, we all lose. I think once Rafael got his check, the way he came by, he was like, "I'm through," like that's it. You know, of course I want him to be on my team, but even if he's not, that still don't take away from God-given ability to have good hands and good feet, so with or without anyone in my training camp, I'm still gonna be able to fight. But I love Rafael and I'm going to always love him, but I don't know who's out and who's in. I don't know if Rafael Garcia left me. I don't know.
BT: There's also been some rumors regarding Leonard Ellerbe and Mayweather Promotions...
FM: (Cutting in) Leonard, I think we're just getting to a point where we're outgrowing each other. I think I just see things my way and I think he sees things in another way. For example, this time around when I went out and fought, my WBC and WBA titles in both weight classes were on the line and I didn't approve of that at all. That's something I didn't approve of. Also, my daughter was sitting in the front row and her mother wasn't sitting next to her, so the ticket arrangements were totally wrong. It just got to a point to where everyone wants to do what they want to do instead of communicating and compromising like we used to. We got to this point by us communicating and compromising. If I'm not mistaken, my dad wasn't able to work [Andrew] Tabiti's corner, his fighter. My dad, he got all his stuff, the things that he needed for the fight, extremely late. That's just very unprofessional. There's just a lot of other things within our team that's just not right. Leonard wasn't in my corner, so, you know, it's not any hard feelings. It's just people outgrow one another. I'm not mad at him. There's no hard feeling like I hate the guy; not at all. No hard feelings whatsoever. People just outgrow one another, just like when people get a divorce. They're no longer on the same page mentally.
Ben, it's just I'm growing in a different direction from everybody else. I'm at a new place in my life and I'm trying to get better. Even though I'm 37, I'm trying to get better and I want to become better and I want my team to become better, and if you're not on the same page as me, then there's nothing I can really say or do but say it's time for you to do your own thing since people may not want to do things the way I want to do things or communicate or compromise. There's no way that I go beat these fighters for these titles and then without me saying anything, someone tells me I got four titles on the line at two different weight classes. When I beat that guy for just one belt, I had three belts and beat him for one belt, and the next fight, after he already loses to me, I come back and say, here, I'm gonna fight you for four belts in two different weight classes? Come on, man. It doesn't make any sense; I don't think so.
BT: Do you feel like people are starting to do things behind your back without your knowledge?
FM: I just want to be able to communicate with anybody that I work with. Once people start making power moves without communicating with me, then I think it's time for us to move our separate ways. I mean, I'm glad the fight is over with, but I think when May comes around and you guys see All Access in May, I'll have a totally new team and probably a totally new staff. We may make a lot of changes in my team, but Al Haymon ain't going nowhere. |
It would have mattered if he had about 15 fights left. Seems like Ellerbe and Garcia are on the outs. |
I never thought Garcia would leave em.
I remember after one fight floyd was praising him so much. I'm surprised Garcia left if his pay didnt change.. he is getting up there i age, maybe it was his pride. |
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| I can see Schafer rolling in once his contract is up with Golden Boy. Floyd would cream himself if Schafer turned Mayweather Promotions into GBP |
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| doughboy90650 wrote: | | I can see Schafer rolling in once his contract is up with Golden Boy. Floyd would cream himself if Schafer turned Mayweather Promotions into GBP |
Apparently that contract runs to 2018 and Oscar plans on enforcing it. |
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| ExPatLkrFan wrote: | | doughboy90650 wrote: | | I can see Schafer rolling in once his contract is up with Golden Boy. Floyd would cream himself if Schafer turned Mayweather Promotions into GBP |
Apparently that contract runs to 2018 and Oscar plans on enforcing it. |
As he should Pats. He would be stupid not to. Because as of right now, Mayweather's stable of fighters is pretty doo doo. Bey got a title somehow after getting floored by Molina. J'Leon Love took a nice step back with a KO that had him stuck for a couple seconds and Ishe Smith is boring to watch. |
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MAYHEM SCORES AT BOX OFFICE
| Quote: | Floyd Mayweather Jr.’s unanimous-decision victory against Marcos Maidana to retain his welterweight and junior middleweight world titles in their rematch last Saturday night at the MGM Grand Garden Arena in Las Vegas generated nearly $15 million ticket sales.
According to figures released Thursday by the Nevada State Athletic Commission, the fight grossed $14,899,150 from 14,859 tickets sold. There were 1,080 unsold tickets and no complimentary tickets distributed.
The gate is good for fifth all-time in Nevada boxing history, just ahead of the 2008 fight between Manny Pacquiao and Oscar De La Hoya ($14,380,300 from 14,468 tickets sold) and just behind the first fight between Mayweather and Maidana in May ($15,024,400 from 15,718 tickets sold).
Mayweather has been involved in four of the top five grossing fights in Nevada history:
1. Mayweather vs. Canelo Alvarez ($20,003,150 from 16,146 tickets sold in September 2013).
2. Mayweather-Oscar De La Hoya ($18,419,200 from 15,432 tickets sold in May 2007).
3. Lennox Lewis-Evander Holyfield II ($16,860,300 from 17,078 tickets sold in November 1999).
4. Mayweather-Maidana I.
5. Mayweather-Maidana II. |
Vegas doesn't want Floyd fighting anywhere but there. Imagine what that city brought on for the weekend. |
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Source: Mayweather-Maidana II does 925,000 pay-per-view buys
| Quote: | Despite allowing himself to be mired into the domestic violence controversy involving ex-Baltimore Ravens running back Ray Rice, it doesn't appear it hurt Floyd Mayweather at the box office.
A source who has been generally reliable on such numbers confirmed that Mayweather's rematch with Marcos Maidana on Saturday at the MGM Grand Garden sold 925,000 pay-per-views. That is 25,000 better than their May fight, which sold roughly 900,000.
Showtime adopted a company policy earlier this year of not releasing pay-per-view figures, so Stephen Espinoza, Showtime's executive vice president and general manager, declined comment.
It was a difficult fight week for Mayweather, who weeks prior to the bout was embroiled in a controversy with hip-hop star Curtis "50 Cent" Jackson over Jackson's claim that Mayweather is illiterate. He was also sued by a former girlfriend who accused him of assault, battery and false imprisonment, among other charges.
The week of the fight, Mayweather made tasteless comments regarding the video of Rice knocking out his wife with a left hook. Though he later apologized, the outrage never died down.
Rachel Nichols of CNN and Sarah Spain of ESPN both called on fans to boycott the fight.
It doesn't appear to have had any impact. A cable source with knowledge of the situation said sales on DirecTV were five to 10 percent higher than Mayweather-Maidana I. AT&T's uVerse service was 20 percent up. Yahoo Sports got conflicting reports on the performance of Dish Network, with one source saying it was trending 20 percent higher and another saying it was down from Mayweather-Maidana I. The cable numbers aren't all in, but appear on par with the first fight, with some systems up and some down.
The fact that Mayweather didn't hit one million – and has only done so in one of his four fights on Showtime – shows the difficult climate that exists to sell pay-per-view. His bout with Canelo Alvarez last year did 2.2 million and set a record in revenue. Mayweather-Maidana I was 900,000 and it is believed though not confirmed that his bout with Robert Guerrero sold 840,000.
Pay-per-view numbers are down across the board. The Miguel Cotto-Sergio Martinez fight in June was well below expectations, and Manny Pacquiao's fight with Timothy Bradley in April didn't quite reach 800,000. UFC's pay-per-view numbers are down from their peak in the past.
So given everything, 925,000 for a rematch few fans called for is not bad for Mayweather.
Showtime will broadcast the replay on Saturday at 9 p.m. ET. It will also air the Leo Santa Cruz bout in which he knocked out Manuel Roman.
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925,000 viewers banging their heads on the wall after the terrible fight.
that was just ugly. Mayweather was lost. Maidana was wild. one guy wanted to fight. the other guy just ducked around the ring. LOL
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| Drifts wrote: | 925,000 viewers banging their heads on the wall after the terrible fight.
that was just ugly. Mayweather was lost. Maidana was wild. one guy wanted to fight. the other guy just ducked around the ring. LOL |
really wasn't a good card at all. Leo Santa Cruz did have a nice KO against a sub-par opponent.
PPV used to be for mega fights. Ali-Frazier, Hagler-Hearns, Leonard-Duran, Tyson-Spinks. But now promoters see they can get fans for (bleep) cards with half-assed bouts. Just sad how far boxing has fallen. |
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| Really though its only been Pac and Floyd able to get fans to buy POS PPV's. When they're gone its going to fall drastically. Canelo has the pull and thankfully he's been taking the challenges but yeah that undercard was brutal, on par with your typical Bob Arum type card. |
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Reality TV show that was staged? Who woulda thunk it!? |
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Reality TV show that was staged? Who woulda thunk it!? |
Personally I don't care what anybody smokes. But nobody is gonna convince me that his hos were smoking fake dope. Please. |
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So glad I jumped in on getting tickets early. It's such a popular ticket, looks like they're even opening up seats that would typically not be offered up:
http://www.boxing247.com/press-release-boxing/bleacher-seating-added-for-mexican-style-tickets-now-on-sale/34239
It was already surprising that they were offering standing room only. It's gonna be packed. Only 3 weeks away.
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| Why can't GGG vs Floyd happen at a catch weight? Is Floyd afraid of anyone that has a legitamate chance to tarnish his record? |
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