Posted: Fri Jun 18, 2010 10:26 am Post subject: Kobe is 31, Jordan was 35 when he got 5 - Laker Window
Kobe is still only 31 years old; it took Jordan until 35 to get his 5th ring.
With barely 30 year olds Pau, Odom, Artest and Bynum signed for at least the next 3 years, how many Championship contending years left do the Lakers have with this core? _________________ Before Lamar trade: Lakers-57 wins (2011)
After Lamar Trade: Lakers 41 wins (2012)
Lol, people actually thought trading LO would be a GOOD thing
Knowing Kobe's work ethic and just how damn good he is, I think he definitely has got 5 great years left in him. _________________ “These young guys are playing checkers. I'm out there playing chess.” - Kobe Bryant
IF Bynum stays healthy and we can get one promising young guard than I think our window is open for the next 5-7 years...
Remember, the Lakers are historically one of the best teams in all of sports simply because of our good record of stringing one Dynasty from and to another. You don't see droughts when it comes to the Lakers because when one Dynasty begins we already begin to make plans for the next one. Bynum is definatly key, but as for THIS Dynasty the window is open for as long as Kobe and Gasol are together...
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2 years- our team looks exhausted . . .during the season and during the playoffs. I don't they can make it past 2 more. Let's go on a 4 peat though _________________ "It was tough," Kobe Bryant said. "But when it got really tough for me, I just checked myself in."
2 years- our team looks exhausted . . .during the season and during the playoffs. I don't they can make it past 2 more. Let's go on a 4 peat though
Cut'm some slack man. They just played game 7 against probably the most physical team in the league. They probably are exhausted. Btw, unless Bynum turns into a beast, I think kobe has 4 years left where he'll play for championships.
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Posted: Fri Jun 18, 2010 10:45 am Post subject:
3 years
After that, I think Artest is too old and Odom is done. Unless Bynum never gets injured and explodes, we'll have to rebuild. _________________ Damian Lillard shatters Dwight Coward's championship dreams:
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Posted: Fri Jun 18, 2010 10:45 am Post subject:
ShowtimeDynasty_24/7 wrote:
But yeah, looking into the future the top contenders in the West will probably be the Thunder, Blazers, and possibly the Mavs.
The Lakers just overcame the most adversity a team could possibly face. I think they are more than capable of getting past the Thunder, Blazers, and Mavs. And what about the Nuggets?
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Posted: Fri Jun 18, 2010 10:55 am Post subject:
Don't forget Kobe started playing pro ball at 17, and Jordan started around 20. In terms of mileage, kobe's right around 33 or 34, anyway.
That being said, it will now be even more imperative that we maintain a solid cast of athletic, two-way players to surround Kobe. We can't jsut have Kobe and sometimes Lamar as fguys who can create their own shots. Having more two-way guys extends Kobe's career, and jams the window open longer.
Honestly the only thing that is going to fade away is his ability to go to the basket at will. but as you saw with jordan when he was 38...he was still scoring over everyone. Kobe will be able to lead this team for another 4 years..and he could play honestly until he was 40 as long as he didn't have to play a "i score everything" position.
With all that said i imagine the latest he'll play is 37
Don't forget Kobe started playing pro ball at 17, and Jordan started around 20. In terms of mileage, kobe's right around 33 or 34, anyway.
That being said, it will now be even more imperative that we maintain a solid cast of athletic, two-way players to surround Kobe. We can't jsut have Kobe and sometimes Lamar as fguys who can create their own shots. Having more two-way guys extends Kobe's career, and jams the window open longer.
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That's the one thing I've always questioned.
Kobe was playing ball at 17. So was Jordan, although it was in college I doubt Jordan worked any less hard.
And if you look at preps to pros stars, KG played long before Tim Duncan but they have aged at the same rate.
KG, drafted out of high school and in his 14th year at age 34 was probably the best player for the Celtics this 7 game series.
I am not sure how much water the "Kobe has more mileage" argument holds as there is no statistical evidence of this; in fact more evidence points to no difference in the different mileage. _________________ Before Lamar trade: Lakers-57 wins (2011)
After Lamar Trade: Lakers 41 wins (2012)
Lol, people actually thought trading LO would be a GOOD thing
But yeah, looking into the future the top contenders in the West will probably be the Thunder, Blazers, and possibly the Mavs.
The Lakers just overcame the most adversity a team could possibly face. I think they are more than capable of getting past the Thunder, Blazers, and Mavs. And what about the Nuggets?
Yeah Kobe is the best player in the NBA, but it's not Kobe's level of play. It's his engine or what he brings and the amount of attention he draws. He shot like crap and on any other game would have been boo'ed. And yet the team was so talented around him and so great that they kept it close and gave both he and Pau a chance to win.
Keep Phil, Kobe can be in contention for rings for another 3-4 years. Even with his age and decline looming, he'll be there. Look at Fisher. You don't need to play great 82 games a year and every playoff minute. For guys like Kobe and Fisher, they are the vets and leaders. You need them to just be ready in the big moments.
Not to take away from what Kobe does for the team, but I see no reason for this team to lose ground as contenders just because he goes in decline. I think he can maintain this current level for a couple more years and still play at an all-star level until 36 or 37. Got to take the RS lighter though.
A healthy Kobe is still the best player and can be for a couple more years. The problem is he seems to have nagging (not serious) knee problems that slow him down. He probably will have to take it easy in the regular season. No reason he shouldn't play his best ball in the playoffs.
then after that = Kobe great player in limited minutes
We can compete for a few more championships with this core, but I'd say within the next two or three years we should try to find a new young player with superstar potential to slowly take on the heavy scoring load and minutes as Kobe ages.
As long as this group is healthy they should be competing.
Kobe has already stopped relying on pure athleticism.
He is too fundamentally sound to regress severely over the next 2-3 years or so.
Hopefully next season he can stay healthy and play fewer minutes.
I think it all depends on the team. If they can continue to rise and Kobe can sit for longer stretches then he can be rather devastating for the next 4 years.
A fresh Kobe is a killer on the perimeter no matter what age and a tired Kobe can still be a killer in the post and at the free throw line.
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Posted: Fri Jun 18, 2010 2:16 pm Post subject:
I know Kobe has been in the league for 14 years but he didn't have his first full season as a starter until the 1999-2000 season. He played very little his rookie year. Was a 6th man in 1998 and only played 50 games in 1999.
Kobe had back to back freak accidents to his finger. I doubt that happens 3 years in a row. I like the fact that Him and Gasol not playing international ball in the summer. I would love for them to not do (bleep) until mid September. 3 straight months of nothingness. Gasol needs to go to Spain and make love to many beautiful Spanish dames and Kobe needs to chill in OC and play with his kids all day long....
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Posted: Fri Jun 18, 2010 2:35 pm Post subject:
Age is just number when it comes to Kobe Bryant. He is way more youthful at the age of 31 than Jordan was. Kobe is a very young 31. His 31 = the age of 26. Jordan already started looking old at the age of 31 and as I watched him play I could tell he only had 3 or 4 great years left in him.
Kobe Bryant shows ZERO signs of slowing down at his masked age of 31. He will continue becoming even greater and powerful as he gets older. As long as he keeps his body well conditioned and stays in great shape (I'm sure he will) at his masked ages of 32, 33, 34, 35, 36, 37 and 38 he will still be dominating the game in many ways and winning championships with the Lakers. All we need to do is keep him surrounded with good smart players.
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