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Lakersarethebesteva
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 Posted: Thu Jul 29, 2010 3:41 pm Post subject: Fox Sports Radio Hartman & VTB Discuss Ugly Insider Experiences With Lebron\BSPN |
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This is probably the best thing I've heard on Lebron and BSPN. Stories about him not autographing and being rude to 9 year old fans, how he behaved inappropriately as a rookie unlike Carmelo Anthony who was with him in an NBA tour, how he kept 3 million of 'The Decision' money instead of giving it to the charity, etc.
Steve Hartman and Vic The Brick Discuss the ugly side of Lebron James and also how ESPN has become a joke. Definitley worth hearing, it would do no justice to just give you the highlights
http://media.ccomrcdn.com/media/station_content/727/100729-_HARTMAN_AND_FRIENDS_HOUR_2_1280439535_6079.mp3 |
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Recap? links blocked on my work desk top. PLEASE!!!!!!
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Aeneas Hunter
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| Posted: Thu Jul 29, 2010 4:08 pm Post subject: Re: Fox Sports Radio Hartman & VTB Discuss Ugly Insider Experiences With Lebron\BSPN |
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| Lakersarethebesteva wrote: | | how he kept 3 million of 'The Decision' money instead of giving it to the charity, etc. |
If this is actually true, it's a bombshell that makes everything else trivial. The guy says that his sources tell him that Lebron and his crew took $3M of the proceeds. If true, that's an outright scandal, not just evidence of egomania. |
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| Posted: Thu Jul 29, 2010 4:13 pm Post subject: Re: Fox Sports Radio Hartman & VTB Discuss Ugly Insider Experiences With Lebron\BSPN |
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| Aeneas Hunter wrote: | | Lakersarethebesteva wrote: | | how he kept 3 million of 'The Decision' money instead of giving it to the charity, etc. |
If this is actually true, it's a bombshell that makes everything else trivial. The guy says that his sources tell him that Lebron and his crew took $3M of the proceeds. If true, that's an outright scandal, not just evidence of egomania. |
I thought it was well documented that only part of the proceeds were going to the Boys and Girls Club.
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Aeneas Hunter
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| Posted: Thu Jul 29, 2010 4:27 pm Post subject: Re: Fox Sports Radio Hartman & VTB Discuss Ugly Insider Experiences With Lebron\BSPN |
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| Wolverine wrote: | | I thought it was well documented that only part of the proceeds were going to the Boys and Girls Club. |
Just to be clear, I don't mean it was illegal. However, it has been sold to the public that the money was going to the charity. If it turns out that Lebron and his pals pocketed $3M from that fiasco, that will be a public relations disaster for Lebron that makes stuff like the Markazi article look trivial. You know how well the "you didn't read the fine print" defense works when it comes to PR. |
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He got paid for the "decision" 
Where exactly did the profits come from? Advertising? Who paid him and how?
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| Lebron just gets worse by the day. |
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Why is this a surprise? I mentioned earlier that LeBron's "brand experts" were going to take a big fat cut out of the advertising revenues, under the pretense of LRMR "management fees". But even I'm surprise at the $3 million management fee cut. That's absolutely morally reprehensible.
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| angrypuppy wrote: | | Why is this a surprise? I mentioned earlier that LeBron's "brand experts" were going to take a big fat cut out of the advertising revenues, under the pretense of LRMR "management fees". But even I'm surprise at the $3 million management fee cut. That's absolutely morally reprehensible. |
Ohhhhhh. I see now. Management company fees. What a load of crap. Thanks AP for clarifying that for me.
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This from ESPN's announcement of The LeBacle:
| Quote: | | Proceeds from “The Decision” will be donated to Boys & Girls Club of America in support of James’ vision to construct basketball courts for youth across the country. The program will be co-presented by University of Phoenix and Bing. vitaminwater® and McDonald’s will also sponsor the program. In addition, Nike and Sprite are making contributions in support of this charitable initiative. LeBron James and his marketing company, LRMR Marketing, were responsible for securing the sponsors for this unique event. |
http://www.espnmediazone3.com/us/2010/07/the-decision-to-be-presented-live-on-espn-thursday-at-9-p-m-et/
This is from the ESPN Ombudsman's essay ripping into ESPN's lack of journalistic ethics:
| Quote: | | No matter how convoluted the intellectual gymnastics, ESPN "paid" for exclusive access to a news story. For the network, there is quantifiable revenue associated with the Thursday 9-10 p.m. programming hour. That revenue was forgone, yielded in exchange for the exclusive. Team LeBron sold those advertising units. The fact that it was in turn distributed to charity was immaterial, journalistically. James used ESPN's commercial spots in an effort to enhance his image as a responsible, caring charitable guy -- there's direct value to James in doing so, and he did it courtesy of the network, and with the sponsor's money. |
http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/columns/story?columnist=ohlmeyer_don&id=5397113
There's nothing in there about Lebron and his crew getting a $3M cut (or "management fee," to use angrypuppy's term).
If this story is true, it's explosive. |
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| Aeneas Hunter wrote: | This from ESPN's announcement of The LeBacle:
| Quote: | | Proceeds from “The Decision” will be donated to Boys & Girls Club of America in support of James’ vision to construct basketball courts for youth across the country. The program will be co-presented by University of Phoenix and Bing. vitaminwater® and McDonald’s will also sponsor the program. In addition, Nike and Sprite are making contributions in support of this charitable initiative. LeBron James and his marketing company, LRMR Marketing, were responsible for securing the sponsors for this unique event. |
http://www.espnmediazone3.com/us/2010/07/the-decision-to-be-presented-live-on-espn-thursday-at-9-p-m-et/
This is from the ESPN Ombudsman's essay ripping into ESPN's lack of journalistic ethics:
| Quote: | | No matter how convoluted the intellectual gymnastics, ESPN "paid" for exclusive access to a news story. For the network, there is quantifiable revenue associated with the Thursday 9-10 p.m. programming hour. That revenue was forgone, yielded in exchange for the exclusive. Team LeBron sold those advertising units. The fact that it was in turn distributed to charity was immaterial, journalistically. James used ESPN's commercial spots in an effort to enhance his image as a responsible, caring charitable guy -- there's direct value to James in doing so, and he did it courtesy of the network, and with the sponsor's money. |
http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/columns/story?columnist=ohlmeyer_don&id=5397113
There's nothing in there about Lebron and his crew getting a $3M cut (or "management fee," to use angrypuppy's term).
If this story is true, it's explosive. |
This is old news, my friend. And yes, it's sickening. Story:
| Quote: | Obviously, tonight is about LeBron James, but I’m sure there’s a little part of you that wonders how much money is being made off all of this. Luckily, we have answers for you.
First of all, the ad sales. According to Dawn C. Chmielewski of the Los Angeles Times, “LeBron: The Decision” will gross about $6 million.
ESPN agreed to donate the time, sponsors committed about $3 million — which Nike has pledged to match. Proceeds go to the Boys and Girls Clubs of America.
Of course, the most interesting part of that article is that it was William Morris Endeavor Agency Co-Chief Executive Ari Emanuel, and not LeBron’s business manager Maverick Carter, that pulled many of the strings behind the scenes in trying to put this whole event together. Sorry, Maverick. I know you want all the credit, but I can’t give it to you.
according to CNBC’s Darren Rovell, the Boys and Girls Club will get $2.5 million for this event.
“LeBron’s decision has generated an incredible amount of interest, and we decided to make his announcement on national television,” Carter said, in a statement. “We are donating the proceeds from the program, totaling $2.5 million, to the Boys & Girls Clubs of America…LeBron has a longstanding commitment to giving back to the community and has worked with the Boys & Girls Clubs in cities across the country.”
Clearly, this doesn’t change the fact that this whole thing is a ridiculous publicity stunt, but at least there will be some good people that will benefit from it all. |
Link: http://legal-sleaze.com/2010/07/reports-lebron-james-event-raises-6-million-in-ad-sales-2-5-million-for-boys-and-girls-club/
The Boys and Girls Club received $2.5 million, but $6 million in ad sales were generated from "the Decision." The math is simple and the only reason this wasn't made a bigger story is because the LeBron's T.V. Channel wouldn't make a big deal of it. It's a joke. |
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lol.... ill still watch him play basketball
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| lakerjoshua wrote: | | Recap? links blocked on my work desk top. PLEASE!!!!!! |
Sorry, just thought it was worth listening to. Here are some highlights
- During his rookie year for some reason Lebron was standing by himself at some type of NBA rookie convention while Carmelo was being hounded for autographs. Some little girl approximately 10 years old approached Lebron who was quietly alone and asked him for an autographand she even provided a peice of paper. He very coldly looked away and said no and the girl was shocked. The host Steve Hartman witnessed this and approached commisioner David Stern and reported to him what he just saw and told him that is very cruel, meanwhile Carmelo was signing thousands of autographs.
- Vic The Brick (my main man) said he remembers the numerous times he has met Lebron face to face off camera he is very cold and does not feel anyone in his environment. Said when he showed up at one of his press conferences as a rookie alot of the players were laughing and feeling Bricks usual outfit and Lebron was clearly offended and not laughing with the teammates.
- Hartman goes on to expose that Lebron indeed kept $3 million of the $7 million made for the decision special. While they praised the $4 million that was given, they did want to take note that Lebron did make $3 million and that ESPN refuses to report this type of important stuff.
- They go on to bash ESPN (they don't call them ESPN they call them the "4 letters") and discuss the article taken off of ESPN and say they are redifing journalism for the worst and continue to make false images while bashing other innocent players for not taking part with them in business decisions ie praise Lebron and make Kobe look like an (bleep). |
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| not surprised. |
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| Lakersarethebesteva wrote: | | lakerjoshua wrote: | | Recap? links blocked on my work desk top. PLEASE!!!!!! |
Sorry, just thought it was worth listening to. Here are some highlights
- During his rookie year for some reason Lebron was standing by himself at some type of NBA rookie convention while Carmelo was being hounded for autographs. Some little girl approximately 10 years old approached Lebron who was quietly alone and asked him for an autographand she even provided a peice of paper. He very coldly looked away and said no and the girl was shocked. The host Steve Hartman witnessed this and approached commisioner David Stern and reported to him what he just saw and told him that is very cruel, meanwhile Carmelo was signing thousands of autographs.
- Vic The Brick (my main man) said he remembers the numerous times he has met Lebron face to face off camera he is very cold and does not feel anyone in his environment. Said when he showed up at one of his press conferences as a rookie alot of the players were laughing and feeling Bricks usual outfit and Lebron was clearly offended and not laughing with the teammates.
- Hartman goes on to expose that Lebron indeed kept $3 million of the $7 million made for the decision special. While they praised the $4 million that was given, they did want to take note that Lebron did make $3 million and that ESPN refuses to report this type of important stuff.
- They go on to bash ESPN (they don't call them ESPN they call them the "4 letters") and discuss the article taken off of ESPN and say they are redifing journalism for the worst and continue to make false images while bashing other innocent players for not taking part with them in business decisions ie praise Lebron and make Kobe look like an (bleep). |
Yeah and guys wanna act like every cat is like this clown.
What a bunch of steaming crap from both ESPN and the same lot in question. |
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| Aeneas Hunter wrote: | This from ESPN's announcement of The LeBacle:
| Quote: | | Proceeds from “The Decision” will be donated to Boys & Girls Club of America in support of James’ vision to construct basketball courts for youth across the country. The program will be co-presented by University of Phoenix and Bing. vitaminwater® and McDonald’s will also sponsor the program. In addition, Nike and Sprite are making contributions in support of this charitable initiative. LeBron James and his marketing company, LRMR Marketing, were responsible for securing the sponsors for this unique event. |
http://www.espnmediazone3.com/us/2010/07/the-decision-to-be-presented-live-on-espn-thursday-at-9-p-m-et/
This is from the ESPN Ombudsman's essay ripping into ESPN's lack of journalistic ethics:
| Quote: | | No matter how convoluted the intellectual gymnastics, ESPN "paid" for exclusive access to a news story. For the network, there is quantifiable revenue associated with the Thursday 9-10 p.m. programming hour. That revenue was forgone, yielded in exchange for the exclusive. Team LeBron sold those advertising units. The fact that it was in turn distributed to charity was immaterial, journalistically. James used ESPN's commercial spots in an effort to enhance his image as a responsible, caring charitable guy -- there's direct value to James in doing so, and he did it courtesy of the network, and with the sponsor's money. |
http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/columns/story?columnist=ohlmeyer_don&id=5397113
There's nothing in there about Lebron and his crew getting a $3M cut (or "management fee," to use angrypuppy's term).
If this story is true, it's explosive. |
The portion in bold has been reported previously. Pretty much accepted. The fact that he may have kept half of that has only just been brought up in that podcast...that is absolutely reprehensible given the way it was sold. |
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This is what I meant in that other thread when I said he was lacking in morals. Morality isn't always about sex and guns and violence. It's about knowing the difference between right and wrong.
Using the Boys and Girls Club as a prop to pretend he's a good guy in order to deflect attention from his own greed and self-importance not only shows that he doesn't know the difference between right and wrong, the fact that he thinks everyone else actually would believe this horsecrap shows just how out of touch with reality he is.
Personally, I think he's a sociopath.
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| jonnybravo wrote: | | The portion in bold has been reported previously. Pretty much accepted. The fact that he may have kept half of that has only just been brought up in that podcast...that is absolutely reprehensible given the way it was sold. |
That's my point. The part in bold is what was told to the public. If what the podcast says is true, it's explosive.
It would nice if someone like Adrian Woj picks up on this, assuming that it's true. |
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| Posted: Thu Jul 29, 2010 6:36 pm Post subject: |
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| Aeneas Hunter wrote: | | jonnybravo wrote: | | The portion in bold has been reported previously. Pretty much accepted. The fact that he may have kept half of that has only just been brought up in that podcast...that is absolutely reprehensible given the way it was sold. |
That's my point. The part in bold is what was told to the public. If what the podcast says is true, it's explosive.
It would nice if someone like Adrian Woj picks up on this, assuming that it's true. |
He's probably fine tuning it as we speak.
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| Posted: Thu Jul 29, 2010 6:42 pm Post subject: |
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MAGIC LARRY AND MIKE WOULD HAVE DONE THE SAME THING.
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| C M B wrote: | | MAGIC LARRY AND MIKE WOULD HAVE DONE THE SAME THING. |
Not according to Magic, Larry and Mike. |
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| C M B wrote: | | MAGIC LARRY AND MIKE WOULD HAVE DONE THE SAME THING. |
LOL |
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| Aeneas Hunter wrote: | | jonnybravo wrote: | | The portion in bold has been reported previously. Pretty much accepted. The fact that he may have kept half of that has only just been brought up in that podcast...that is absolutely reprehensible given the way it was sold. |
That's my point. The part in bold is what was told to the public. If what the podcast says is true, it's explosive.
It would nice if someone like Adrian Woj picks up on this, assuming that it's true. |
Only way to know for sure is for people to keep e-mailing him about it, but I seriously doubt that he has the balls to do something like this(yeah I've seen his other articles)
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| Bleh if any of this was important to anyone this would have been reported long ago but its not. No one really gives a frogs fat ass and LJ will continue to build his financial empire off his image and the sky is blue and water is wet. Hes the King best thing since sex and sliced bread. |
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While I don't like LeBron at the same time I can't exactly be glad about hearing any of this either because it just goes to show how two faced the media is just like the people they apparently cover.
Think of all the crap they have on the seemingly nice guys in the public eye but because they're so powerful they keep it to themselves yet when these public figures slip up then its open season.
It just makes me hate the media more than I already do. |
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