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LALdynasty! Star Player
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Posted: Tue Feb 08, 2011 6:15 pm Post subject: Andrew Bynum Injury History |
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Andrew Bynum's injuries:
*Jan 13, 2008- Dislocated left kneecap/bone bruise -- arthroscopic surgery on May 21st 2008 -- missed playoffs -- returned for start of 2008-09 season on October 28th 2008
*Nov 3, 2008 -- Strained rotator cuff right shoulder -- didn't miss any games
*Nov 25, 2008 -- Bone spur right foot -- didn't miss any games
*Jan 31, 2009- Torn MCL right knee -- no surgery -- out until April 9th 2009
*Nov 4, 2009 -- Elbow strain -- missed 2 games
*Mar 19, 2010 - Strained achilles -- out until April 18th 2010
*May 1, 2010 - Torn meniscus right knee -- played through playoffs -- arthroscopic surgery on July 29th 2010 -- out until December 14th 2010
*Jan 30, 2011 -- Bone bruise left knee -- missed one game
What was it about his last surgery where they repaired his meniscus instead of taking it out or something?
Also, what kind of injuries has Greg Oden suffered as a pro?
I am debating with a friend of a friend about why I think we should keep Bynum and not trade him for Carmelo. I cited the importance of big men in the NBA, etc, etc, and then he asked me if I would trade Oden for Carmelo. I said yes, because his injuries were more serious and he has never really shown that he could be more than a serviceable defensive big. Of course nobody is going to trade for Oden, b/c he is out for the season and will be a free agent, but it was just hypothetical.
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Greg Oden's injuries:
*Sep 13, 2007 -- micro-fracture surgery on right knee -- missed rookie season
*Oct 28, 2008 -- sprained foot -- returned November 12th 2008
*Feb 12, 2009 -- bone chip in knee -- returned March 18th 2009
*Dec 5, 2009 -- fractured left knee cap -- surgery -- missed remainder of season
*Nov 17, 2010 -- torn ligament left knee -- micro-fracture surgery -- will miss entire 2010-2011 season
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dood23 Franchise Player
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Posted: Tue Feb 08, 2011 6:17 pm Post subject: |
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repaired meniscus for career longevity.
greg oden injuries include:
broken (everything) |
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Mr. Blonde Starting Rotation
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Posted: Tue Feb 08, 2011 6:18 pm Post subject: |
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LOL 'KEEP BYNUM' _________________ Are you gonna bark all day little doggie? Or are you gonna bite? |
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dhemmati Starting Rotation
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Posted: Tue Feb 08, 2011 6:24 pm Post subject: |
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Did not have surgery on the sprained MCL. |
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Mark_in_Tulsa Franchise Player
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Posted: Tue Feb 08, 2011 6:26 pm Post subject: |
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(from what I can remember)
The dislocated knee cap wasn't so bad, it was the fact that there was a bone bruise because it dislocated so badly. And that bruise was in an area that has low blood flow, which really slowed down the recovery time. _________________ Think about how stupid the avg. person is, and realize half of them are stupider than that.
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Rsxtreme415 Franchise Player
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Dr. Laker Franchise Player
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Posted: Tue Feb 08, 2011 6:29 pm Post subject: Re: Andrew Bynum Injury History |
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LALdynasty! wrote: | Can someone help me verify the injuries Bynum has suffered as a Laker, how much time he missed, and what kind of surgeries he has had.
Thanks.
If I remember correctly:
*Jan 13, 2008- Dislocated left kneecap? -- surgery -- missed playoffs
*Jan 31, 2009- Torn MCL -- surgery -- out until April 9th 2009
*Mar 19, 2010 - Strained achilles -- out until April 18th 2010
*May 1, 2010 - Torn meniscus -- played through playoffs -- surgery on July 29th 2010 -- out until December 14th 2010
What was it about his last surgery where they repaired his meniscus instead of taking it out or something?
Also, what kind of injuries has Greg Oden suffered as a pro?
I am debating with a friend of a friend about why I think we should keep Bynum and not trade him for Carmelo. I cited the importance of big men in the NBA, etc, etc, and then he asked me if I would trade Oden for Carmelo. I said yes, because his injuries were more serious and he has never really shown that he could be more than a serviceable defensive big. Of course nobody is going to trade for Oden, b/c he is out for the season and will be a free agent, but it was just hypothetical. |
You're missing some of the smaller tweaks/etc.
Click on the links in my sig, but if you need the whole history, it may not exist online except through research.
From what I recall:
Loose knee ligaments caused a floating kneecap in 2005 - he sat for a few games
Bone spurs in November 2008, missed a handful of games
Ankle sprain Nov. 09, was day-to-day
He had a rotator cuff injury that caused him to miss part of training camp one year
Plus he missed a season in HS due to injury. _________________ On Lakersground, a concern troll is someone who is a fan of another team, but pretends to be a Lakers fan with "concerns". |
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Mark_in_Tulsa Franchise Player
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Posted: Tue Feb 08, 2011 6:30 pm Post subject: |
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Also I'm sure someone will come in here and say he had sugary on his knee in high school but he didn't. He missed 10 games due to sprained knee his Jr I think, which was his first year to play basketball ever. _________________ Think about how stupid the avg. person is, and realize half of them are stupider than that.
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Aussiesuede Franchise Player
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Posted: Tue Feb 08, 2011 6:32 pm Post subject: |
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October 27, 1987 : Slipped out of the doctors hands onto a pillow an ripped his acl. _________________ I'm On point, On task, On message, and Off drugs. A Streetwise Smart Bomb, Out of rehab and In denial. Over the Top, On the edge, Under the Radar, and In Control. Behind the 8 ball, Ahead of the Curve and I've got a Love Child who sends me Hate mail. |
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drzucchini Franchise Player
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Posted: Tue Feb 08, 2011 6:36 pm Post subject: |
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Aussiesuede wrote: | October 27, 1987 : Slipped out of the doctors hands onto a pillow an ripped his acl. |
Yeah, but it was the doctor's fault, just like it was Kobe's fault, Odom's fault, Gasol's fault, the ball boy's fault, my fault, etc. |
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Dr. Laker Franchise Player
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Posted: Tue Feb 08, 2011 6:39 pm Post subject: |
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Mark_in_Tulsa wrote: | Also I'm sure someone will come in here and say he had sugary on his knee in high school but he didn't. He missed 10 games due to sprained knee his Jr I think, which was his first year to play basketball ever. |
He had knee surgery at 12
http://nba.fanhouse.com/2008/05/06/does-andrew-bynum-need-more-surgery
Quote: | He's scheduled to receive a third opinion on his left knee Wednesday from the specialist that operated on the knee when he was 12 years old, and it's possible he could undergo another surgery. From the Los Angeles Times: |
He also missed 25 games in two HS seasons. _________________ On Lakersground, a concern troll is someone who is a fan of another team, but pretends to be a Lakers fan with "concerns". |
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ERod86 Star Player
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Posted: Tue Feb 08, 2011 6:45 pm Post subject: |
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drzucchini wrote: | Aussiesuede wrote: | October 27, 1987 : Slipped out of the doctors hands onto a pillow an ripped his acl. |
Yeah, but it was the doctor's fault, just like it was Kobe's fault, Odom's fault, Gasol's fault, the ball boy's fault, my fault, etc. |
It was that awful avatar's fault... |
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akola Star Player
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Posted: Tue Feb 08, 2011 6:53 pm Post subject: |
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Delete this NEGATIVE thread before the Denver FO see's this and decides Bynum's potential is not worth it. |
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lafan4life78 Star Player
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Posted: Tue Feb 08, 2011 6:58 pm Post subject: |
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Injuries are the great unknown. His history says he's brittle. Bynum is pure potential. He has never been a 35+ minute guy, primary option over anything close to a full season. He's never been asked to be that guy here.
His best stretches of play for me were the following:
2007-2008: Great stretch of games, but it wasn't a very long stretch before the dislocated patella. Of course, there was no Gasol at that point and the Lakers were kind of a sleeper team. Athletically, he's never regained that explosion.
2008-2009: Had a nice 5-8 game stretch before hurting his MCL. Was never the same when he came back.
2009-2010: Was a solid 19-10 guy when Gasol was out in the beginning of the year. Was more a secondary guy when Gasol came back, but the mysterious Achilles injury and torn meniscus derailed his productivity. He was healthy for the first 65 games. |
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thumpinghead Star Player
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Posted: Tue Feb 08, 2011 7:15 pm Post subject: |
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lafan4life78 wrote: | Injuries are the great unknown. His history says he's brittle. Bynum is pure potential. He has never been a 35+ minute guy, primary option over anything close to a full season. He's never been asked to be that guy here.
His best stretches of play for me were the following:
2007-2008: Great stretch of games, but it wasn't a very long stretch before the dislocated patella. Of course, there was no Gasol at that point and the Lakers were kind of a sleeper team. Athletically, he's never regained that explosion.
2008-2009: Had a nice 5-8 game stretch before hurting his MCL. Was never the same when he came back.
2009-2010: Was a solid 19-10 guy when Gasol was out in the beginning of the year. Was more a secondary guy when Gasol came back, but the mysterious Achilles injury and torn meniscus derailed his productivity. He was healthy for the first 65 games. |
the truth hurts, this is correct assessment of his development or lack there of and it sucks, ouch
you want to know why drew isnt explosive like a 23 year old should be?
look at his history...
Why did Buss pay this guy 15million per? wow _________________ Kevin Love. 2015. |
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Rick12322 Franchise Player
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Posted: Tue Feb 08, 2011 7:55 pm Post subject: |
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Mark_in_Tulsa wrote: | (from what I can remember)
The dislocated knee cap wasn't so bad, it was the fact that there was a bone bruise because it dislocated so badly. And that bruise was in an area that has low blood flow, which really slowed down the recovery time. |
No, cartilage debris etched a knick under the patella. The surgery cleaned out the debris and smoothed out the spot under the patella. He missed a lot of time because they assumed it was a bone bruise. They didn't operate until summer. Had they operate right away he would've been back in time or the playoffs. |
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Rick12322 Franchise Player
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Posted: Tue Feb 08, 2011 8:00 pm Post subject: Re: Andrew Bynum Injury History |
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dynasty, the second knee surgery was to the meniscus. When he initially sprained the MCL he was diagnosed with a micro tear to the lateral meniscus. That continued to grow because it needed to be stitched. After that injury he was getting treatments and lots of ice during the season on it. The OKC series is where it tore open and caused the massive swelling. Again, had they fixed the micro tear he wouldn't have had the problem against OKC. |
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parsons777 Star Player
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Posted: Tue Feb 08, 2011 8:52 pm Post subject: Re: Andrew Bynum Injury History |
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LALdynasty! wrote: | Oden
*Dec 5, 2009 -- fractured left knee cap -- surgery -- missed remainder of season |
By just jumping in the air...
AKA The exploding knee trick. |
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LALdynasty! Star Player
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Posted: Tue Feb 08, 2011 10:20 pm Post subject: |
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ok, I updated his injuries.
Thanks for the help Dr Laker. |
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orwell Star Player
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Posted: Tue Feb 08, 2011 10:38 pm Post subject: |
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In conclusion: Andrew Bynum is made of glass. _________________ A proud member of LakersGround.net for over 10 years [since April 28, 2001] |
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Posted: Tue Feb 08, 2011 11:03 pm Post subject: |
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sugary |
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ticking timebomb |
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Scarab Star Player
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Posted: Wed Feb 09, 2011 1:18 am Post subject: Re: Andrew Bynum Injury History |
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parsons777 wrote: | LALdynasty! wrote: | Oden
*Dec 5, 2009 -- fractured left knee cap -- surgery -- missed remainder of season |
By just jumping in the air...
AKA The exploding knee trick. |
I think Griffin pulled that trick also. |
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Posted: Wed Feb 09, 2011 1:26 am Post subject: |
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His injury history is history, get it? Yeahhhh |
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Rick12322 Franchise Player
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Posted: Wed Feb 09, 2011 12:34 pm Post subject: |
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http://nba.fanhouse.com/2008/05/06/does-andrew-bynum-need-more-surgery
All the research I've done on this alleged surgery at 12 points to that surgery was only considered but not done because it wasn't necessary. The Article above is not proof that he had surgery, it is sloppy journalism as there are no confirming reports from Bynum's Dr. or anybody else.
If it truly happened, then better evidence is required. |
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