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Why are they only doing one more season?
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Jon x Dany is the best solution to the problem of Dany wanting Jon to bend the knee to her.


Every chick that gets Jon in a cave wants him to bend the knee. But he doesn't get down like that. Dany needs to romance him a little more first. Like Ygritte did.


I remember a certain line Ygritte had that contradicts that . . .


According to my gf, those 2 are dating in real life... so he's been bending the knee.


Yeah, she's an incredibly awful actress, who probably couldn't act like she's burning if you lit her on fire, but the chemistry with jon snow is real.


Good thing for her that her character can't burn.
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 09, 2017 7:10 am    Post subject:

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Why are they only doing one more season?


Because that is all they need to finish the story. Sure it sucks that it's a shortened season and that there are only 9 total episodes left but they will likely be longer episodes and they will be very dense with plot and no "filler" since they have a lot to resolve.

The main actors' salaries are too high to have this season and next be 10 episodes while giving us the quality of episodes they want to give us. I doubt we get a scene as epic as Field of Fire 2.0 if this season was 10 episodes.
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DaMuleRules wrote:
Omar Little wrote:
67ShelbyGT wrote:
DaMuleRules wrote:
kikanga wrote:
tox wrote:

Jon x Dany is the best solution to the problem of Dany wanting Jon to bend the knee to her.


Every chick that gets Jon in a cave wants him to bend the knee. But he doesn't get down like that. Dany needs to romance him a little more first. Like Ygritte did.


I remember a certain line Ygritte had that contradicts that . . .


According to my gf, those 2 are dating in real life... so he's been bending the knee.


Yeah, she's an incredibly awful actress, who probably couldn't act like she's burning if you lit her on fire, but the chemistry with jon snow is real.


Good thing for her that her character can't burn.


Yeah, that made that old reference all the more appealing...
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 09, 2017 10:24 am    Post subject:

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Why are they only doing one more season?


Because that is all they need to finish the story. Sure it sucks that it's a shortened season and that there are only 9 total episodes left but they will likely be longer episodes and they will be very dense with plot and no "filler" since they have a lot to resolve.

The main actors' salaries are too high to have this season and next be 10 episodes while giving us the quality of episodes they want to give us. I doubt we get a scene as epic as Field of Fire 2.0 if this season was 10 episodes.


Yes, an ending similar to Mad Men, splitting one season into two. It keeps the suspense and media references high.
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 09, 2017 10:48 am    Post subject:

Omar Little wrote:
DaMuleRules wrote:
Omar Little wrote:
67ShelbyGT wrote:
DaMuleRules wrote:
kikanga wrote:
tox wrote:

Jon x Dany is the best solution to the problem of Dany wanting Jon to bend the knee to her.


Every chick that gets Jon in a cave wants him to bend the knee. But he doesn't get down like that. Dany needs to romance him a little more first. Like Ygritte did.


I remember a certain line Ygritte had that contradicts that . . .


According to my gf, those 2 are dating in real life... so he's been bending the knee.


Yeah, she's an incredibly awful actress, who probably couldn't act like she's burning if you lit her on fire, but the chemistry with jon snow is real.


Good thing for her that her character can't burn.


Yeah, that made that old reference all the more appealing...


I think it's Jon Snow and Ygritte who are together in real life. I'm assuming you're talking about Dany, right ?

I agree about the Dany-Jon chemistry. I'm enjoying it.

I very much liked the way their conversation in the cave was a direct mirror of Jon's conversation with Mance Rader, with Jon on the other side.

Mance is one of my favorite minor characters of the entire series, and the Mance-Jon relationship was great. I love how we've seen Jon take on so many of the qualities that made Mance a great leader.


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PostPosted: Wed Aug 09, 2017 10:52 am    Post subject:

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Jhin0821 wrote:
Why are they only doing one more season?


Because that is all they need to finish the story. Sure it sucks that it's a shortened season and that there are only 9 total episodes left but they will likely be longer episodes and they will be very dense with plot and no "filler" since they have a lot to resolve.

The main actors' salaries are too high to have this season and next be 10 episodes while giving us the quality of episodes they want to give us. I doubt we get a scene as epic as Field of Fire 2.0 if this season was 10 episodes.


You're assumption is correct per ScreenRant:
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The seasonís fourth episode, ĎThe Spoils of Warí, is going to be a bit different Ė itís going to be extremely short and earns the title of shortest Game of Thrones episode yet running at a time of 50 minutes. But donít fret Thrones fans, the next episode is going to bounce back to 59 minutes, then building up to a 71-minute penultimate episode and giving us the longest yet with an 81-minute finale.

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PostPosted: Wed Aug 09, 2017 12:27 pm    Post subject:

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Why are they only doing one more season?


Because that is all they need to finish the story. Sure it sucks that it's a shortened season and that there are only 9 total episodes left but they will likely be longer episodes and they will be very dense with plot and no "filler" since they have a lot to resolve.

The main actors' salaries are too high to have this season and next be 10 episodes while giving us the quality of episodes they want to give us. I doubt we get a scene as epic as Field of Fire 2.0 if this season was 10 episodes.


Salaries too high? HBO probably has billions
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Jhin0821 wrote:
loslakersss wrote:
Jhin0821 wrote:
Why are they only doing one more season?


Because that is all they need to finish the story. Sure it sucks that it's a shortened season and that there are only 9 total episodes left but they will likely be longer episodes and they will be very dense with plot and no "filler" since they have a lot to resolve.

The main actors' salaries are too high to have this season and next be 10 episodes while giving us the quality of episodes they want to give us. I doubt we get a scene as epic as Field of Fire 2.0 if this season was 10 episodes.


Salaries too high? HBO probably has billions


That doesn't mean they aren't going to try to reign the spending in. The financial people at HBO are going to want to see reasonable return on their investment and are budgeting against ALL of their projects, current and future.
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 09, 2017 12:38 pm    Post subject:

DaMuleRules wrote:
Jhin0821 wrote:
loslakersss wrote:
Jhin0821 wrote:
Why are they only doing one more season?


Because that is all they need to finish the story. Sure it sucks that it's a shortened season and that there are only 9 total episodes left but they will likely be longer episodes and they will be very dense with plot and no "filler" since they have a lot to resolve.

The main actors' salaries are too high to have this season and next be 10 episodes while giving us the quality of episodes they want to give us. I doubt we get a scene as epic as Field of Fire 2.0 if this season was 10 episodes.


Salaries too high? HBO probably has billions


That doesn't mean they aren't going to try to reign the spending in. The financial people at HBO are going to want to see reasonable return on their investment and are budgeting against ALL of their projects, current and future.


It's GOT. Don't they want to keep the gravy train going?
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 09, 2017 1:00 pm    Post subject:

Jhin0821 wrote:
DaMuleRules wrote:
Jhin0821 wrote:
loslakersss wrote:
Jhin0821 wrote:
Why are they only doing one more season?


Because that is all they need to finish the story. Sure it sucks that it's a shortened season and that there are only 9 total episodes left but they will likely be longer episodes and they will be very dense with plot and no "filler" since they have a lot to resolve.

The main actors' salaries are too high to have this season and next be 10 episodes while giving us the quality of episodes they want to give us. I doubt we get a scene as epic as Field of Fire 2.0 if this season was 10 episodes.


Salaries too high? HBO probably has billions


That doesn't mean they aren't going to try to reign the spending in. The financial people at HBO are going to want to see reasonable return on their investment and are budgeting against ALL of their projects, current and future.


It's GOT. Don't they want to keep the gravy train going?


That's what spin-offs are for. They can be in the same universe that has all the hype with newer actors that dont demand a high salary.
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numero-ocho wrote:
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Jhin0821 wrote:
Why are they only doing one more season?


Because that is all they need to finish the story. Sure it sucks that it's a shortened season and that there are only 9 total episodes left but they will likely be longer episodes and they will be very dense with plot and no "filler" since they have a lot to resolve.

The main actors' salaries are too high to have this season and next be 10 episodes while giving us the quality of episodes they want to give us. I doubt we get a scene as epic as Field of Fire 2.0 if this season was 10 episodes.


You're assumption is correct per ScreenRant:
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The seasonís fourth episode, ĎThe Spoils of Warí, is going to be a bit different Ė itís going to be extremely short and earns the title of shortest Game of Thrones episode yet running at a time of 50 minutes. But donít fret Thrones fans, the next episode is going to bounce back to 59 minutes, then building up to a 71-minute penultimate episode and giving us the longest yet with an 81-minute finale.


60, 70 and 80 minutes?!?! YES!
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 09, 2017 1:04 pm    Post subject:

Shows have to end especially serialized shows. It's a matter of time before quality drops and viewers start dropping the show. On top of that, actor's salaries increase. So viewership goes down yet your budget is going up, not a good recipe for success. And like loslakersss pointed out, that's why there are spinoffs, prequels, sequels, and all that. Different actors, for the most part, would ideally lower the budget while attracting new and hopefully more viewers.

Just look at Walking Dead. Numbers are dropping and with no end in sight, I expect them to continue going down. This might not end well for them. Announcing the end of a show at its peak will result in an increase in viewership for the remaining season(s). Just look at Breaking Bad and how their numbers doubled and tripled during the last half-season.
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Omar Little wrote:
67ShelbyGT wrote:
DaMuleRules wrote:
kikanga wrote:
tox wrote:

Jon x Dany is the best solution to the problem of Dany wanting Jon to bend the knee to her.


Every chick that gets Jon in a cave wants him to bend the knee. But he doesn't get down like that. Dany needs to romance him a little more first. Like Ygritte did.


I remember a certain line Ygritte had that contradicts that . . .


According to my gf, those 2 are dating in real life... so he's been bending the knee.


Yeah, she's an incredibly awful actress, who probably couldn't act like she's burning if you lit her on fire, but the chemistry with jon snow is real.


Jon and Ygritte are dating IRL, not Jon and Dany.
Emilia Clarke's problem is that she has basically one facial expression/ attitude: smug imperiousness. She has no range at all. I wonder if part of it is the character as written, though. For example, some of the Sand Snakes are pretty good actresses yet they were all terrible, especially in S5.
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Jhin0821 wrote:
DaMuleRules wrote:
Jhin0821 wrote:
loslakersss wrote:
Jhin0821 wrote:
Why are they only doing one more season?


Because that is all they need to finish the story. Sure it sucks that it's a shortened season and that there are only 9 total episodes left but they will likely be longer episodes and they will be very dense with plot and no "filler" since they have a lot to resolve.

The main actors' salaries are too high to have this season and next be 10 episodes while giving us the quality of episodes they want to give us. I doubt we get a scene as epic as Field of Fire 2.0 if this season was 10 episodes.


Salaries too high? HBO probably has billions


That doesn't mean they aren't going to try to reign the spending in. The financial people at HBO are going to want to see reasonable return on their investment and are budgeting against ALL of their projects, current and future.


It's GOT. Don't they want to keep the gravy train going?


It's not really gravy train. I mean it's popular and successful, but HBO is subscriber television - meaning that they get their viewership from their body of programming. They aren't really dependent on breakout hits like Network TV is.
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tox wrote:
Omar Little wrote:
67ShelbyGT wrote:
DaMuleRules wrote:
kikanga wrote:
tox wrote:

Jon x Dany is the best solution to the problem of Dany wanting Jon to bend the knee to her.


Every chick that gets Jon in a cave wants him to bend the knee. But he doesn't get down like that. Dany needs to romance him a little more first. Like Ygritte did.


I remember a certain line Ygritte had that contradicts that . . .


According to my gf, those 2 are dating in real life... so he's been bending the knee.


Yeah, she's an incredibly awful actress, who probably couldn't act like she's burning if you lit her on fire, but the chemistry with jon snow is real.


Jon and Ygritte are dating IRL, not Jon and Dany.
Emilia Clarke's problem is that she has basically one facial expression/ attitude: smug imperiousness. She has no range at all. I wonder if part of it is the character as written, though. For example, some of the Sand Snakes are pretty good actresses yet they were all terrible, especially in S5.


Naw, the writing is there for a more dynamic performance, she's just not delivering.

And yes, Harrington has been dating Rose Leslie for a while. There was a rumor they were engaged, but that's not the case. Clarke and Harrington hadn't even worked together on set until this past shooting season.
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tox wrote:
Omar Little wrote:
67ShelbyGT wrote:
DaMuleRules wrote:
kikanga wrote:
tox wrote:

Jon x Dany is the best solution to the problem of Dany wanting Jon to bend the knee to her.


Every chick that gets Jon in a cave wants him to bend the knee. But he doesn't get down like that. Dany needs to romance him a little more first. Like Ygritte did.


I remember a certain line Ygritte had that contradicts that . . .


According to my gf, those 2 are dating in real life... so he's been bending the knee.


Yeah, she's an incredibly awful actress, who probably couldn't act like she's burning if you lit her on fire, but the chemistry with jon snow is real.


Jon and Ygritte are dating IRL, not Jon and Dany.
Emilia Clarke's problem is that she has basically one facial expression/ attitude: smug imperiousness. She has no range at all. I wonder if part of it is the character as written, though. For example, some of the Sand Snakes are pretty good actresses yet they were all terrible, especially in S5.


Terminator: Genisys. She was also their second choice for the part. They should've stuck with the first or went to a different actress. Also hurts that her physical growth has stunted to where she makes Tyrion Lannister look normal sized.
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 09, 2017 8:11 pm    Post subject:

Had Jaime not lost his hand would he have fought for Tyrion? Would Tywin have allowed it knowing he could lose both of his sons in one day?

This show is fantastic because everything that happens impacts so many other things down the line. Nothing is done for the sake of just doing it or for shock value.
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 09, 2017 8:55 pm    Post subject:

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Terminator: Genisys. She was also their second choice for the part. They should've stuck with the first or went to a different actress. Also hurts that her physical growth has stunted to where she makes Tyrion Lannister look normal sized.


They had Brie Larson and Tatiana Maslany in the mix at time, but they had to step in it with Clarke. Too bad the Terminator tv spinoff back in the day with Lena Headey as Sarah Connor didn't last long, thought her performance (pre-Cersei, pre-Queen Gorgo) ran circles around anything Clarke could eek out.
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Jon and Ygritte are dating IRL, not Jon and Dany.
Emilia Clarke's problem is that she has basically one facial expression/ attitude: smug imperiousness. She has no range at all. I wonder if part of it is the character as written, though. For example, some of the Sand Snakes are pretty good actresses yet they were all terrible, especially in S5.


Naw, the writing is there for a more dynamic performance, she's just not delivering.

And yes, Harrington has been dating Rose Leslie for a while. There was a rumor they were engaged, but that's not the case. Clarke and Harrington hadn't even worked together on set until this past shooting season.

Is there? At least this season, I'm thinking of all of Dany's dialogue and I can't think of a single instance where it wasn't haughty (even when divorced from Clarke's performance). I don't recall precisely enough previous seasons, but this season I feel like Dany's been about as one note as Clarke has played her.

Anyway, it's sure fortunate she and Kit have some natural chemistry, if nothing else.
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Jon and Ygritte are dating IRL, not Jon and Dany.
Emilia Clarke's problem is that she has basically one facial expression/ attitude: smug imperiousness. She has no range at all. I wonder if part of it is the character as written, though. For example, some of the Sand Snakes are pretty good actresses yet they were all terrible, especially in S5.


Terminator: Genisys. She was also their second choice for the part. They should've stuck with the first or went to a different actress. Also hurts that her physical growth has stunted to where she makes Tyrion Lannister look normal sized.

I haven't seen it. She wasn't good?
It turns out she's theater trained, which might explain why she's not very good at emoting via facial expressions.
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tox wrote:
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tox wrote:

Jon and Ygritte are dating IRL, not Jon and Dany.
Emilia Clarke's problem is that she has basically one facial expression/ attitude: smug imperiousness. She has no range at all. I wonder if part of it is the character as written, though. For example, some of the Sand Snakes are pretty good actresses yet they were all terrible, especially in S5.


Terminator: Genisys. She was also their second choice for the part. They should've stuck with the first or went to a different actress. Also hurts that her physical growth has stunted to where she makes Tyrion Lannister look normal sized.

I haven't seen it. She wasn't good?
It turns out she's theater trained, which might explain why she's not very good at emoting via facial expressions.


Theater trained are absolutely master class. Ben Kingsley, Cate Blanchett, Ian Mckellan, Agenela Lansubry, Edward Norton...I could go on and on. Most of Hollywood's top caliber actors cut their teeth in the theater. Heck, most of her co-stars including Kit Harrington began in theater (at the least the HS level or studied it). She's jsut not very good.
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Terminator: Genisys. She was also their second choice for the part. They should've stuck with the first or went to a different actress. Also hurts that her physical growth has stunted to where she makes Tyrion Lannister look normal sized.


They had Brie Larson and Tatiana Maslany in the mix at time, but they had to step in it with Clarke. Too bad the Terminator tv spinoff back in the day with Lena Headey as Sarah Connor didn't last long, thought her performance (pre-Cersei, pre-Queen Gorgo) ran circles around anything Clarke could eek out.


Yep. Good thing Larson left because it was already a sub-par movie. All Clarke did was somehow make it worse. I liked that show and I thought it had some promise. Unfortunately, like Firefly and many other Fox shows, canceled too early.
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Jon and Ygritte are dating IRL, not Jon and Dany.
Emilia Clarke's problem is that she has basically one facial expression/ attitude: smug imperiousness. She has no range at all. I wonder if part of it is the character as written, though. For example, some of the Sand Snakes are pretty good actresses yet they were all terrible, especially in S5.


Terminator: Genisys. She was also their second choice for the part. They should've stuck with the first or went to a different actress. Also hurts that her physical growth has stunted to where she makes Tyrion Lannister look normal sized.

I haven't seen it. She wasn't good?
It turns out she's theater trained, which might explain why she's not very good at emoting via facial expressions.


Let's just say I'd give Arnold the Oscar before her. As jonnybravo noted, theater trained performers are the master class. In fact, Clarke was widely panned in her sole Broadway performance, which led to the early closing.
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