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LO for Sheed? |
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GameCock-MD Star Player
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Posted: Mon Nov 28, 2005 5:22 pm Post subject: LO for Sheed anyone? |
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I don't think that DET would like the trade alot but I think it has a chance...
Flip wants a KG-type player...LO has the talent and potential...
We sorely need an inside presence...
Salaries match...
Any takers? _________________ Build around team players, not ISO players. |
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Ko8e8ryant Star Player
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Posted: Mon Nov 28, 2005 5:26 pm Post subject: |
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How old is Rasheed?
Looking at strictly how thye play I would make that trade...Sheed can play on the inside and contest shots but is also a better outside shooter than Lamar. |
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GameCock-MD Star Player
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Posted: Mon Nov 28, 2005 5:27 pm Post subject: |
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Ko8e8ryant wrote: | How old is Rasheed?
Looking at strictly how thye play I would make that trade...Sheed can play on the inside and contest shots but is also a better outside shooter than Lamar. |
Offensive and defensive upgrade... _________________ Build around team players, not ISO players. |
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hoopschick29 Franchise Player
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Posted: Mon Nov 28, 2005 5:29 pm Post subject: |
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I would do it in a heartbeat. It doesn't hurt the 07 plan at all, and Sheed gives everything Lamar does PLUS points and a little attitude. And he's an actual presence on the floor.
Too bad Joe Dumars would never bite on it. |
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Krispy Kreme Franchise Player
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Posted: Mon Nov 28, 2005 5:30 pm Post subject: |
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rasheed is a headcase like lamar, but eh, id do it.. |
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hoopschick29 Franchise Player
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Posted: Mon Nov 28, 2005 5:33 pm Post subject: |
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Purplereign34 wrote: | rasheed is a headcase like lamar, but eh, id do it.. |
And why?? Because Sheed produces. You put up with more from a headcase when they're giving you more of what you need. |
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Ziggy Franchise Player
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Posted: Mon Nov 28, 2005 5:36 pm Post subject: |
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Yep. I'd also trade him for Rashard or expiring K's.
Last edited by Ziggy on Mon Nov 28, 2005 5:36 pm; edited 1 time in total |
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GameCock-MD Star Player
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Posted: Mon Nov 28, 2005 5:36 pm Post subject: |
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Where are the 2 people who would rather have LO??? _________________ Build around team players, not ISO players. |
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sodapoppenski Star Player
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Posted: Mon Nov 28, 2005 5:37 pm Post subject: |
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Ko8e8ryant wrote: | How old is Rasheed? |
Too old. We're not gonna win a championship or even contend for one just by swapping LO for 'Sheed, we'll still be looking at contending in 2007 or later... so why make a "band-aid" move?
Even if we end up moving Lamar, we should take our sweet time doing so and find a player who'll help make us contenders when we use our cap-space. |
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Ziggy Franchise Player
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Posted: Mon Nov 28, 2005 5:37 pm Post subject: |
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GameCock-MD wrote: | Where are the 2 people who would rather have LO??? |
Out buying Lamar jerseys. |
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kingdimitry Sixth Man
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Posted: Mon Nov 28, 2005 5:38 pm Post subject: |
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I'm not happy with Lamar Odom's overall play, but you guys cannot be serious. Looking at stats alone, Odom averages nearly double the rebounds, more assists, equal points and is probably far more valuable to the lakers. While I would trade Odom for Rashard Lewis simply because his contract runs out and gives us the option to not re-sign him if we so choose, Wallace is both old and has no potential to improve. Also, his game is not that which is consistent with the triangle. He doesn't like to move around on the floor much and is not a good passer for a big man. I vote no. |
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sodapoppenski Star Player
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Posted: Mon Nov 28, 2005 5:40 pm Post subject: |
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Speaking of people who could be on the other end of an LO-trade though, Carlos Boozer just bought a $8.6 million house in L.A. with 13 bedrooms and 10 bathrooms, racquetball court, tennis court, swimming pool, etc.
I'm generally one of those people who always thinks "man, so-and-so just bought a house here" rumors are silly - but considering all the rumors about Boozer and L.A. over the past handful of months, it's worth a mention |
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hoopschick29 Franchise Player
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Posted: Mon Nov 28, 2005 5:40 pm Post subject: |
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sodapoppenski wrote: | Ko8e8ryant wrote: | How old is Rasheed? |
Too old. We're not gonna win a championship or even contend for one just by swapping LO for 'Sheed, we'll still be looking at contending in 2007 or later... so why make a "band-aid" move?
Even if we end up moving Lamar, we should take our sweet time doing so and find a player who'll help make us contenders when we use our cap-space. |
Because it helps us NOW and we don't lose anything. A band-aid move is fine if your not sacrificing the future. |
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bounty Star Player
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Posted: Mon Nov 28, 2005 5:41 pm Post subject: |
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Sure. Might as well have someone that produces. And i dont care how old he is. He has a sick shot that will go to grave with him. _________________ Lakers Tickets |
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hoopschick29 Franchise Player
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Posted: Mon Nov 28, 2005 5:44 pm Post subject: |
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sodapoppenski wrote: | Speaking of people who could be on the other end of an LO-trade though, Carlos Boozer just bought a $8.6 million house in L.A. with 13 bedrooms and 10 bathrooms, racquetball court, tennis court, swimming pool, etc.
I'm generally one of those people who always thinks "man, so-and-so just bought a house here" rumors are silly - but considering all the rumors about Boozer and L.A. over the past handful of months, it's worth a mention |
I can tell you this much: Carlos Boozer has not suited up for the Jazz since those trade talks with the Lakers fell through last season. I think everyone pretty much knows that trade was gonna happen until Jack Haley worked his magic and Utah balked in the 11th hour. He wants off that team and he is holding a gun to their head. Pay him to sit on his butt, or trade him to the place he wants to be. |
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shnjb Franchise Player
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Posted: Mon Nov 28, 2005 6:01 pm Post subject: |
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It has a chance?
LO a KG player?
Come on. |
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shnjb Franchise Player
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Posted: Mon Nov 28, 2005 6:04 pm Post subject: |
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If this is a fantasy basketball thread, I'd say no.
LO is a much better fantasy basketball player, and even a pretty consistent one, because he will give you rebounds and assists on almost every single night. |
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orwell Star Player
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Posted: Mon Nov 28, 2005 6:08 pm Post subject: |
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Ummm...NO! _________________ A proud member of LakersGround.net for over 10 years [since April 28, 2001] |
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Omar Little Moderator
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Posted: Mon Nov 28, 2005 6:10 pm Post subject: |
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It would be good to note that the biggest knock on Rasheed has been that he's too aggressive. That would be a nice switch. |
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LakerSince72 Starting Rotation
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Posted: Mon Nov 28, 2005 6:14 pm Post subject: |
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lakers need impact player or sound investments, not almost has beens (see Aaron McKies box scores)
We need to be courting KG and I hear Rashard Lewis in not happy in Seattle. |
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lakeshow03 Star Player
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Posted: Mon Nov 28, 2005 6:14 pm Post subject: |
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sodapoppenski wrote: | Speaking of people who could be on the other end of an LO-trade though, Carlos Boozer just bought a $8.6 million house in L.A. with 13 bedrooms and 10 bathrooms, racquetball court, tennis court, swimming pool, etc.
I'm generally one of those people who always thinks "man, so-and-so just bought a house here" rumors are silly - but considering all the rumors about Boozer and L.A. over the past handful of months, it's worth a mention |
when is boozers contract up? |
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M. Hicks Star Player
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Posted: Mon Nov 28, 2005 6:24 pm Post subject: |
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Problem with Sheed (and this is even considering if DET would do the deal, which they don't), is, that as long as he's "one of five guys" on the court...as long as you don't demand him to be the #2 option, he would be cool, but let the media and fanboys start with the "he needs to step up" and "he needs to help Kobe better" rhetoric, you would start to see more meltdowns from him.
Rasheed has a nice post game, a killer baseline fadeaway and his range is every bit as good as Diggler's. He would be an upgrade from Odom as long as he wasn't pressured to be "the man next to the man."
But here, he would be, so it wouldn't work, imo. Detroit is playing well, why would they deal Sheed? He's their primary offensive post player, and they need his weakside help D. _________________ M. Hicks
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eureca Franchise Player
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Posted: Mon Nov 28, 2005 6:26 pm Post subject: |
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I love Sheed, but im split on this because of his age. Eh Yeah id do it, but then again pistons would not. |
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slavavov Star Player
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Posted: Mon Nov 28, 2005 6:48 pm Post subject: |
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Rasheed actually has the same problem as Lamar - namely, he supposedly has the talent to be an All-Star or even a superstar, but he doesn't seem to want the responsibility of that. He just wants to be "one of the five guys" as someone mentioned above. Remember how he was supposed to be the superstar of that Blazers team in 2000, but for whatever reason he didn't seize that opportunity? Sounds like the same general problem Lamar has.
Besides, I really doubt Joe Dumars would trade away one of the biggest pieces to his championship nucleus. It's not going to happen. _________________ Lakers 49ers Chargers Dodgers |
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shnjb Franchise Player
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Posted: Mon Nov 28, 2005 6:56 pm Post subject: |
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Actually unlike Lamar, Sheed does have the talents of a superstar, possessing both the physical abilities and basketball skills.
In addition, Sheed, unlike Lamar, has absolutely dominated the opposition pretty consistently in both regular season and playoffs.
Yes, he's a bit old now, but come on; if Detroit trades for Lamar Odom, they go from a championship contender to a borderline team that will lose to any team with a good PF as Odom will have to guard that PF. |
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