Is it time to make some moves?

Vlade · Posted: Fri Dec 02, 2005 4:57 pm Post subject: Is it time to make some moves?

Well this is a very frustrating start indeed. All of our key players are playing below potential, our frontcourt is weak, and it seems like the only person who can consistently score on this team is Kobe, and he needs over 30 shots to do this.

On the other hand, Phil's offense takes some time to learn, and so perhaps a slow start is to be expected.

Still, the big question: is it panic time?

and if so, what REALISTIC moves could we make to better this team?

I don't think getting KG qualifies here guys, sorry...

So here's a few trade possibilities (all of which work out on realgm), some of which have been discussed before... just curious what you all think is the best move.

The options (and feel free to add your own):

1. Odom to the Kings for Peja and Skinner.... this is the one that tempts me most. Peja would give us a real scorer and would spread the floor for Kobe. Skinner would give us some much needed depth up front. Odom still intrigues me with his potential, but how long do you wait for it to really materialize? Also, I think that the Kings would do this, since they could very well lose Peja in a couple years anyways, and since they could certainly use a multi-talented distributor like Odom on a team that does actually have more than one other person who can put the ball in the hoop.

Bottom line: I wouldn't do this now, but if the next month finds us not making any progress, then I say go for it...

2. Odom and George for Francis and Battie... like the last trade this one is predicated on the idea that Lamar just can't cut it as the 2nd option. I'd think that Orlando would do this, and we would get a real scorer plus a decent front court player...
Bottom line: don't be fooled by this one... Francis and Kobe sounds like a recipe for disaster, and yes guys, things can actually get worse... even if Lamar never progresses, I think that a proposed trade such as this suggests that there are even worse alternatives...

3. Mihm to Denver for Nene... you may ask, SAY WHAT? But hear me out here... If Denver seems like they could get their act together and make a serious run to go deep in the playoffs, they could really use a player like Mihm to shore up their front court... and they will probably lose Nene anyway.. so this seems like a no brainer for them. For us... well I certainly wouldn't do this now, but if by the trade deadline it looks like we have little to no chance to make the playoffs, then I would make this move for the future. Nene is a significantly better front court player than Mihm, and in the long term this would be a steal. Bottom line: if we continue to suck, make this move for the future!

4. No major moves... this team just needs time to gel.

Bottom line: this is my recommendation for right now, but if we don't seem to at least tread water over the next month, then I say its time to make some moves!!!
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KobeButler · Franchise Player Joined: 14 Nov 2004 Posts: 10179

no...this team is steadily on the rise.
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Wags_16 · Posted: Fri Dec 02, 2005 5:01 pm Post subject:

Well if they trade Mihm make sure it's not for someone that's not out for the rest of the season. I think they should wait until the end of December and then reevaluate the situation.

bambam · Star Player Joined: 03 Jul 2003 Posts: 9013

Aside from the 1st qtr against the spurs.... and the melt down vs UTAH (which was self inflicted by a certain person) the team execution has been on the rise.
Guys are maintaining proper spacing..in the correct spots and making the right passes...
They are taking what the defense gives.

Should be interesting to see how it all unfolds once Kobe starts playing better, Kwame comes back and George can supply a spark off the bench.

Trey · Posted: Fri Dec 02, 2005 5:18 pm Post subject:

We need to find a player who is more intelligent than Kobe and at least has some sort of Basketball IQ... dude is stunted .. .jacking up shot after shot after shot after.. you get my point..

What has he done for this franchise lately anyways..

jmnluvr · Star Player Joined: 29 Nov 2001 Posts: 1649

Kobe should be traded for a ball of yarn and a ham sandwich. Preferable with mustard.

Trey · Posted: Fri Dec 02, 2005 5:23 pm Post subject:

jmnluvr · Star Player Joined: 29 Nov 2001 Posts: 1649

I'm picking up what you're laying down...question is, is anyone else?

orwell · Posted: Fri Dec 02, 2005 5:51 pm Post subject:

5. None of the above.

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bounty · Star Player Joined: 15 Aug 2005 Posts: 3946

lo for peja and skinner. In a freaken heartbeat
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STiG909 · Posted: Fri Dec 02, 2005 7:52 pm Post subject:

Start Magic at the point, Kareem at center and Worthy at PF.

With Kareem at center we can play small at PF with Worthy. We have 4 legit scoreres, perfect for Odom, so we hang on to him.

Our lineup should look like this:

PG- Magic
SG- Kobe
SF- Odom
PF- Worthy
C- Kareem

It's a bit of a stretch I know, but does anyone have a better idea?

TEEGUNN · Posted: Fri Dec 02, 2005 10:14 pm Post subject:

Odom for Artest. Odom for Boozer. I don't want francis or marbury. Mihm for Nene?? A blown out knee for a heartless player. Pretty even trade. I don't see much chance of really being able to make a move that is more than lateral.

Vlade · Posted: Sat Dec 03, 2005 8:15 pm Post subject: