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bounty Star Player
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Posted: Fri Feb 03, 2006 3:32 pm Post subject: |
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THE_SHOES wrote: | bounty wrote: | THE_SHOES wrote: | bounty wrote: | wolfpaclaker wrote: | What's funny, most of those ratings make him come off to be a very good player |
Make him to be about average. Add 12mil, hes way below. What are your ratings? |
What for bounty? As I looked back on this thread you actually singled out one individual doing this and awarded him with praise just because he agreed with you!
Your not looking for a rating! You're just trying to build an alliance!
I can't believe you dug this back up! |
You have yet to participate. Why? You scared to actually agree |
Yeah right! NOt a chance... To participate in you madness would be to accept your premises that LO is useless... Now, really... Why would I or anybody who sees your obsession against LO as damned near personal get involved? |
I love LO and like you say "Hes not the worst player on the squad" _________________ Lakers Tickets |
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40ptmachine Starting Rotation
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Posted: Fri Feb 03, 2006 3:32 pm Post subject: |
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JimRaynor55 wrote: | Lamar Odom doesn't deserve a 10 in rebounding. That kind of rating should be reserved for guys like KG, Big Ben, or Reggie Evans. |
AMEN ! _________________ After 7 seasons I am a NON ALL STAR, in fact, I am a ROLE PLAYER making Superstar $$$
plus; I get standing ovations when I reach double digits |
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wolfpaclaker Retired Number
Joined: 29 May 2002 Posts: 58336
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Posted: Fri Feb 03, 2006 3:39 pm Post subject: |
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bounty wrote: | wolfpaclaker wrote: | What's funny, most of those ratings make him come off to be a very good player |
Make him to be about average. Add 12mil, hes way below. What are your ratings? |
An average player? Ok bounty, if you say so.
My ratings?
Rebounding = 8. Good rebounder but can not dominate the glass ala Wallace/Howard
15' = 5. Doesn't take enough shots to really be in good rhythm game to game.
Outside = 5. Takes some bad 3's but can knock it down from outside. Again like his 15' depends on the rhythm and flow of his shooting game.
Lay up = 7. Good but not great at finishing. Will score with ease inside against an interior that doesn't have shotblocking but does get rejected a bit when facing good shotblocking.
And 1 = 4. At times makes some very good And 1's but is nowhere near in consistent at making. Misses a ton of gimmes of And1's.
Defense = 6. A solid defender against good matchups. A weak defender against poor matchups (guys much stronger or much quicker than him). He should be playing all three Frontcourt spots defensively like they do with Diaw. Depends on the matchup, but Phil at times will stick him against the matchup from hell.
Brains = 4. Not an intelligent player
Plays with Kobe = 6. Relieves him off the guard duties so he can be a pure scorer. Very important aspect that's ignored. At the same time not good at picking his scoring spots with Kobe. That's a huge concern for this team. Good 2nd options know how to score and pick their spots to score. Odom hasn't grasped that and compliments Bryant through doing dirty work (rebounding, guard roles) rather than scoring points.
How come you ignored post game and driving ability (two of his strengths?) |
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lakersdynasty999 Star Player
Joined: 06 Sep 2005 Posts: 1893
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Posted: Fri Feb 03, 2006 3:45 pm Post subject: |
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reb - 10
15 ft - 6
outside shot - 5 (shooting 40% threes last 2 months)
lay up - 8
and 1 - 6
defense - 6 (man defense, 9 off the ball defense)
brains - 4
w/ kobe - 9
asst/to ratio - 8 _________________ Lakers in '08.
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40ptmachine Starting Rotation
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Posted: Fri Feb 03, 2006 3:45 pm Post subject: |
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wolfpaclaker wrote: |
Defense = 6. A solid defender against good matchups. A weak defender against poor matchups |
1 good matchups for every 10 poor matchups _________________ After 7 seasons I am a NON ALL STAR, in fact, I am a ROLE PLAYER making Superstar $$$
plus; I get standing ovations when I reach double digits |
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wolfpaclaker Retired Number
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Posted: Fri Feb 03, 2006 3:49 pm Post subject: |
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40ptmachine wrote: | wolfpaclaker wrote: |
Defense = 6. A solid defender against good matchups. A weak defender against poor matchups |
1 good matchups for every 10 poor matchups |
Not really. |
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And 1 Star Player
Joined: 12 Apr 2001 Posts: 2586
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Posted: Fri Feb 03, 2006 3:56 pm Post subject: Re: Do me favor 1-10 rate these aspects of LO's game. It will benifit LG. It will lessen my LO posts |
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bounty wrote: | hated posts. i just need to know if we are all seeing the same thing broken down. PLEASE not what you think it should/could be, what it is.
*RB's-10 (I did it for you)
*15ft. Shot-
*Outside Shot-
*Lay up-
*Finishing off the "And 1"
*Defense
*Brains
*Ability to play with Kobe(right fit for the team)
*Asst/TO ratio |
Let's add a couple more categories shall we?
* Heart
* Ability to turn the ball over
* Ability to put together a string of consecutive good games
* Ability to make you say Wh- Why did he do that? |
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THE_SHOES Retired Number
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Posted: Fri Feb 03, 2006 4:00 pm Post subject: |
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Yeah, giving LO a 10 in rebounding isn't to much to ask in that particular group...
LO 9.4/ KG 11.2/ Ben Wallace 12.5/ Reggie Evans? 7.20
LO has gathered double digit rebounds in 21 contest this year in leading the Lakers in that category while enabling the Laker offense to push at a better than average pace with his ball handling skills in transition. Only KG has the same ability. LO collected 16 ribbies against Shaq and company.
Trash the dude all you like but, make no mistake he makes a differance. _________________ "According to ESPN.com's conference projections, the Lakers will finish 12th in the West, which prompted Bryant to tweet earlier this offseason, "12th I see.." |
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Vlade Star Player
Joined: 08 May 2005 Posts: 2373 Location: valley of dry bone dreams
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Posted: Fri Feb 03, 2006 4:01 pm Post subject: |
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*RB's... 9
*15ft. Shot... does he ever shoot it?
*Outside Shot... 4
*Lay up... 7 (I would say he gets a 9 for making the move, and a 5 for the finish)
*Finishing off the "And 1"... 2
*Defense... 6
*Brains... 7 (despite his recent slump)
*Ability to play with Kobe(right fit for the team)... 8 (fit well with Kobe, but way overpaid)
*Asst/TO ratio... 5 (I expect improvement)
PLus added categories from And 1, which I'll sum up as:
Heart... 5
Consistency... 2 _________________ -
"All the truth in the world adds up to one big lie." |
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Boognish Starting Rotation
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Posted: Fri Feb 03, 2006 4:03 pm Post subject: |
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This thread is useless and annoying. I'm sorry I clicked the link. |
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THE_SHOES Retired Number
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Posted: Fri Feb 03, 2006 4:08 pm Post subject: |
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Amen to that!
See how your comedy is becoming sillier all the time bounty?
You needed to drag this thread up to add to yet another "lets beat up
Lamar in another fashion!"
You're boring bounty! _________________ "According to ESPN.com's conference projections, the Lakers will finish 12th in the West, which prompted Bryant to tweet earlier this offseason, "12th I see.." |
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bounty Star Player
Joined: 15 Aug 2005 Posts: 3946
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Posted: Fri Feb 03, 2006 4:35 pm Post subject: |
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THE_SHOES wrote: |
Amen to that!
See how your comedy is becoming sillier all the time bounty?
You needed to drag this thread up to add to yet another "lets beat up
Lamar in another fashion!"
You're boring bounty! |
I told you shoes why I brought THEM up. You seem to play like this recent slump of LO's is a first the point I was trying to make is that.
CONSISTENCY DOES MATTER. I know YOU dont seem to think it does
but it is the single most important aspect TO ANY OF the GOOD let alone great athletes. You refuse to acknowledge that. You my friend are an LO jocker. You have refused to rate LO b/c you are scared that when breaking him down you will realize that he is infact a PROBLEM for the LAKERS at 12mil. _________________ Lakers Tickets |
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THE_SHOES Retired Number
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Posted: Fri Feb 03, 2006 4:40 pm Post subject: |
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I told you about LO's salary!
Don't hate da playa, hate da game!
_________________ "According to ESPN.com's conference projections, the Lakers will finish 12th in the West, which prompted Bryant to tweet earlier this offseason, "12th I see.." |
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bounty Star Player
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Posted: Fri Feb 03, 2006 4:41 pm Post subject: |
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THE_SHOES wrote: | I told you about LO's salary!
Don't hate da playa, hate da game!
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I dont hate the game I hate the inconsistency _________________ Lakers Tickets |
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