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 Posted: Tue Mar 13, 2012 8:19 am Post subject: Kobe says he would Fire GMs that didn't see Talent like Jeremy Lin |
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| Quote: | It’s a good thing Kobe Bryant doesn’t own the Warriors or Rockets. He would be looking to fire the front office for giving up on Jeremy Lin after their close-up looks.
The Lakers star, one of the early victims of Linsanity, said the fairy tale is as much about the ineptitude of some league executives as it is Lin’s meteoric rise to an All-Star caliber point guard.
“The biggest thing to me is how everybody missed it,’’ Bryant said yesterday before the All-Star Game’s practice session. “They all would be fired if I was owning a team. I hear this stuff, ‘It came out of nowhere.’ I think it’s a load of [garbage]. You can’t play that well and just come out of nowhere. There has to be something there and everybody missed it. So heads would roll [if I was owner].’’ |
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Uh... check the date.
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So does this mean Kobe would hire me and the 2 or 3 other LGers that liked Lin during the draft?
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| angrypuppy wrote: | | Uh... check the date. |
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... what have you done for me lately ? 
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Actually the Rockets GM claims part of the reason he did the CP3/Gasol trade was to get rid of Drag... so he could keep Lin... he claims he knew Lin had potential... but post veto they had Flynn, Drag, and Lowry... so he became expendable.
I sort of believe him in that. |
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Hey I haven't heard about this yet.
Anyway, does that also mean that Kobe would fire GM's that saw talent in guys like Smush or Kwame?
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| Jordan-esque wrote: | Hey I haven't heard about this yet.
Anyway, does that also mean that Kobe would fire GM's that saw talent in guys like Smush or Kwame?
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If referring to my post... it was on the BS report (simmons) when he interviewed the Rockets GM. |
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| I guess Kobe would fire Mitch for preferring Sean May over Bynum. |
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| Oh wait! Kobe would have to fire Kobe! Kobe wanted to "ship his ass out." |
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| This is from all-star weekend but I loved his comment, taking a shot at the Lakers for passing on Jeremy Lin. Hah. |
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| Rick12322 wrote: | | Oh wait! Kobe would have to fire Kobe! Kobe wanted to "ship his ass out." |
I've seen people taking this quote out of context all the time. Didn't Kobe mean to say when a player of Jason Kidd 's caliber came along , it was a no-brainer to "ship his ass out (for kidd)". Looking back it wasn't a bad trade after all considering Bynum didn't really contribute much to the last two championship runs. With the addtion of Kidd, they might have won another last season. |
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| Mamba3301 wrote: | | This is from all-star weekend but I loved his comment, taking a shot at the Lakers for passing on Jeremy Lin. Hah. |
I think he was taking a shot at the other teams that actually had him on their squads, not Lakers. |
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| Posted: Tue Mar 13, 2012 11:11 am Post subject: Re: Kobe says he would Fire GMs that didn't see Talent like Jeremy Lin |
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| Clark Kent wrote: | http://www.nypost.com/p/sports/knicks/kobe_says_fire_lin_doubters_JG8lCqeWiGuVJ1w5C2EMOO#ixzz1p13yb2aS
| Quote: | It’s a good thing Kobe Bryant doesn’t own the Warriors or Rockets. He would be looking to fire the front office for giving up on Jeremy Lin after their close-up looks.
The Lakers star, one of the early victims of Linsanity, said the fairy tale is as much about the ineptitude of some league executives as it is Lin’s meteoric rise to an All-Star caliber point guard.
“The biggest thing to me is how everybody missed it,’’ Bryant said yesterday before the All-Star Game’s practice session. “They all would be fired if I was owning a team. I hear this stuff, ‘It came out of nowhere.’ I think it’s a load of [garbage]. You can’t play that well and just come out of nowhere. There has to be something there and everybody missed it. So heads would roll [if I was owner].’’ |
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i'm usually not with KB when he's on a tirade. but i'm with him on this one. heads would roll.
because there are only two reasons you passed on this guy assuming you dont have cp3 or dwill as your starting pg. and thats only if You truly couldnt see the talent. and if thats the case YOU SUCK as a person who talent evaluates talent. which means you need to lose your job.
or #2. you REFUSEd to see the talent since he was asian.
again, if you're only looking at stereotypes and not actual talent. then you should be fired.
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What have we learned today? Hope Kobe is never your boss. Iron fist.
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| Posted: Tue Mar 13, 2012 11:15 am Post subject: Re: Kobe says he would Fire GMs that didn't see Talent like Jeremy Lin |
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| postandpivot wrote: | | Clark Kent wrote: | http://www.nypost.com/p/sports/knicks/kobe_says_fire_lin_doubters_JG8lCqeWiGuVJ1w5C2EMOO#ixzz1p13yb2aS
| Quote: | It’s a good thing Kobe Bryant doesn’t own the Warriors or Rockets. He would be looking to fire the front office for giving up on Jeremy Lin after their close-up looks.
The Lakers star, one of the early victims of Linsanity, said the fairy tale is as much about the ineptitude of some league executives as it is Lin’s meteoric rise to an All-Star caliber point guard.
“The biggest thing to me is how everybody missed it,’’ Bryant said yesterday before the All-Star Game’s practice session. “They all would be fired if I was owning a team. I hear this stuff, ‘It came out of nowhere.’ I think it’s a load of [garbage]. You can’t play that well and just come out of nowhere. There has to be something there and everybody missed it. So heads would roll [if I was owner].’’ |
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i'm usually not with KB when he's on a tirade. but i'm with him on this one. heads would roll.
because there are only two reasons you passed on this guy assuming you dont have cp3 or dwill as your starting pg. and thats only if You truly couldnt see the talent. and if thats the case YOU SUCK as a person who talent evaluates talent. which means you need to lose your job.
or #2. you REFUSEd to see the talent since he was asian.
again, if you're only looking at stereotypes and not actual talent. then you should be fired. |
Leave race out of it. Rockets have Lowry/Dragic. Proven starting PG and a PG that has shown he can do it as a backup in limited minutes. Lin can play but his numbers are inflated in a D'Antoni offense. |
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| Posted: Tue Mar 13, 2012 11:15 am Post subject: Re: Kobe says he would Fire GMs that didn't see Talent like Jeremy Lin |
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| Clark Kent wrote: | http://www.nypost.com/p/sports/knicks/kobe_says_fire_lin_doubters_JG8lCqeWiGuVJ1w5C2EMOO#ixzz1p13yb2aS
| Quote: | It’s a good thing Kobe Bryant doesn’t own the Warriors or Rockets. He would be looking to fire the front office for giving up on Jeremy Lin after their close-up looks.
The Lakers star, one of the early victims of Linsanity, said the fairy tale is as much about the ineptitude of some league executives as it is Lin’s meteoric rise to an All-Star caliber point guard.
“The biggest thing to me is how everybody missed it,’’ Bryant said yesterday before the All-Star Game’s practice session. “They all would be fired if I was owning a team. I hear this stuff, ‘It came out of nowhere.’ I think it’s a load of [garbage]. You can’t play that well and just come out of nowhere. There has to be something there and everybody missed it. So heads would roll [if I was owner].’’ |
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It's easy to say this when you're just a player with no responsibility to draft or select the roster. But then you look at all the All-Time 50 and Hall of Fame guys who go on to be coaches or GMs and just suck at it. |
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| kobester wrote: | | Rick12322 wrote: | | Oh wait! Kobe would have to fire Kobe! Kobe wanted to "ship his ass out." |
I've seen people taking this quote out of context all the time. Didn't Kobe mean to say when a player of Jason Kidd 's caliber came along , it was a no-brainer to "ship his ass out (for kidd)". Looking back it wasn't a bad trade after all considering Bynum didn't really contribute much to the last two championship runs. With the addtion of Kidd, they might have won another last season. |
Even so, Kobe would have to fire himself for taking Kidd over Bynum. |
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| Why is Bynum dragged into every thread? Ugh get a life. |
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| Posted: Tue Mar 13, 2012 11:20 am Post subject: Re: Kobe says he would Fire GMs that didn't see Talent like Jeremy Lin |
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| OC Lakerfan wrote: | | postandpivot wrote: | | Clark Kent wrote: | http://www.nypost.com/p/sports/knicks/kobe_says_fire_lin_doubters_JG8lCqeWiGuVJ1w5C2EMOO#ixzz1p13yb2aS
| Quote: | It’s a good thing Kobe Bryant doesn’t own the Warriors or Rockets. He would be looking to fire the front office for giving up on Jeremy Lin after their close-up looks.
The Lakers star, one of the early victims of Linsanity, said the fairy tale is as much about the ineptitude of some league executives as it is Lin’s meteoric rise to an All-Star caliber point guard.
“The biggest thing to me is how everybody missed it,’’ Bryant said yesterday before the All-Star Game’s practice session. “They all would be fired if I was owning a team. I hear this stuff, ‘It came out of nowhere.’ I think it’s a load of [garbage]. You can’t play that well and just come out of nowhere. There has to be something there and everybody missed it. So heads would roll [if I was owner].’’ |
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i'm usually not with KB when he's on a tirade. but i'm with him on this one. heads would roll.
because there are only two reasons you passed on this guy assuming you dont have cp3 or dwill as your starting pg. and thats only if You truly couldnt see the talent. and if thats the case YOU SUCK as a person who talent evaluates talent. which means you need to lose your job.
or #2. you REFUSEd to see the talent since he was asian.
again, if you're only looking at stereotypes and not actual talent. then you should be fired. |
Leave race out of it. Rockets have Lowry/Dragic. Proven starting PG and a PG that has shown he can do it as a backup in limited minutes. Lin can play but his numbers are inflated in a D'Antoni offense. |
numbers can be inflated. but the guy was putting up Zeus numbers in those games. that aint all d'an. thats here's the keys, drive the porche. dont wreck it. and not only did he not wreck it. he won darn near every street race by 3 car lengths. aint no way you didnt see that talent unless you are a BAD TALENT scout. OR you had race in your mind and figured "asian guy...nahhhh.. next"
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| Posted: Tue Mar 13, 2012 11:22 am Post subject: Re: Kobe says he would Fire GMs that didn't see Talent like Jeremy Lin |
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| activeverb wrote: | | Clark Kent wrote: | http://www.nypost.com/p/sports/knicks/kobe_says_fire_lin_doubters_JG8lCqeWiGuVJ1w5C2EMOO#ixzz1p13yb2aS
| Quote: | It’s a good thing Kobe Bryant doesn’t own the Warriors or Rockets. He would be looking to fire the front office for giving up on Jeremy Lin after their close-up looks.
The Lakers star, one of the early victims of Linsanity, said the fairy tale is as much about the ineptitude of some league executives as it is Lin’s meteoric rise to an All-Star caliber point guard.
“The biggest thing to me is how everybody missed it,’’ Bryant said yesterday before the All-Star Game’s practice session. “They all would be fired if I was owning a team. I hear this stuff, ‘It came out of nowhere.’ I think it’s a load of [garbage]. You can’t play that well and just come out of nowhere. There has to be something there and everybody missed it. So heads would roll [if I was owner].’’ |
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It's easy to say this when you're just a player with no responsibility to draft or select the roster. But then you look at all the All-Time 50 and Hall of Fame guys who go on to be coaches or GMs and just suck at it. |
but its different when you're a laker player. look at our greats. look at our history of putting together great teams and finding hall of famers. we do this like no other. so kobe being around this for his entire career has possibly made him into a different specimen.
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| Posted: Tue Mar 13, 2012 11:26 am Post subject: Re: Kobe says he would Fire GMs that didn't see Talent like Jeremy Lin |
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| postandpivot wrote: | | OC Lakerfan wrote: | | postandpivot wrote: | | Clark Kent wrote: | http://www.nypost.com/p/sports/knicks/kobe_says_fire_lin_doubters_JG8lCqeWiGuVJ1w5C2EMOO#ixzz1p13yb2aS
| Quote: | It’s a good thing Kobe Bryant doesn’t own the Warriors or Rockets. He would be looking to fire the front office for giving up on Jeremy Lin after their close-up looks.
The Lakers star, one of the early victims of Linsanity, said the fairy tale is as much about the ineptitude of some league executives as it is Lin’s meteoric rise to an All-Star caliber point guard.
“The biggest thing to me is how everybody missed it,’’ Bryant said yesterday before the All-Star Game’s practice session. “They all would be fired if I was owning a team. I hear this stuff, ‘It came out of nowhere.’ I think it’s a load of [garbage]. You can’t play that well and just come out of nowhere. There has to be something there and everybody missed it. So heads would roll [if I was owner].’’ |
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i'm usually not with KB when he's on a tirade. but i'm with him on this one. heads would roll.
because there are only two reasons you passed on this guy assuming you dont have cp3 or dwill as your starting pg. and thats only if You truly couldnt see the talent. and if thats the case YOU SUCK as a person who talent evaluates talent. which means you need to lose your job.
or #2. you REFUSEd to see the talent since he was asian.
again, if you're only looking at stereotypes and not actual talent. then you should be fired. |
Leave race out of it. Rockets have Lowry/Dragic. Proven starting PG and a PG that has shown he can do it as a backup in limited minutes. Lin can play but his numbers are inflated in a D'Antoni offense. |
numbers can be inflated. but the guy was putting up Zeus numbers in those games. that aint all d'an. thats here's the keys, drive the porche. dont wreck it. and not only did he not wreck it. he won darn near every street race by 3 car lengths. aint no way you didnt see that talent unless you are a BAD TALENT scout. OR you had race in your mind and figured "asian guy...nahhhh.. next" |
Being an Asian American myself I disagree.
The Rockets he didn't get a chance. Before then? Perhaps he hadn't developed. Physically or mentally. I didn't see his practices so I don't know.
But me thinks you conspiracy theorist a bit too much, from referees, NBA, and now to asian guy neeeext.
If Morey didn't think he wasn't a worthy candidate because he was Asian, he would have never been on the team in the first place. Keep in mind, this is the same team that had Yao Ming? Ya dig?
New York was the perfect fit and time for him. They were struggling, players were hurt, and D'Antoni has a fast paced, up and down system. He didn't yank him at the first opportunity like other coaches would. How many coaches would yank a PG with a high amount of TOs?
Another example is out of college he was a very skinny, weak guy, his High School coach said it himself. I forgot what his exact weight was, but he definitely wasn't physically ready. That's one reason a lot of European Players are good in the International play against NBA players (other than the rules) and not as good over here in the U.S.. A lot of them do not have a NBA body and can handle the wear and tear of a long NBA season vs. much more physical players. |
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Also Asian-American, and I think the bias angle is bit of a stretch and a half as well. Plenty of Asian players had shots in this league, some successful (Yao Ming), many unsuccessful (Yue Tabuse), and some just kind of in the middle (Yi Jianlan).
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