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| Would you be willing to give up Kwame Brown and Chris Mihm for Artest? |
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Mike@LG
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 Posted: Thu Dec 15, 2005 7:25 pm Post subject: Poll: Would you be willing to give up Kwame Brown and Chris Mihm for Artest? |
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Free Agent centers:
Curtis Borchardt Last team: Boston
Mamadou N'diaye Last team: Golden State
Jahidi White Last team: Cleveland
Andrew DeClercq Last team: Orlando
Ruben Boumtje Last team: Orlando
Centers: Deji Akindele, Ernest Brown, Elden Campbell, Kip Christianson, Adam Chubb, Keith Closs, Peter Cornell, Nigel Dixon, Robb Dryden, Anwar Ferguson, Kimani Ffriend, Steve Goodrich, Paul Grant, Thomas Hamilton, Nate Huffman, Ken Johnson, Jonathan Kerner, Lari Ketner, Chris Marcus, Amal McCaskill, Oliver Miller, Josh Moore, Toree Morris, Adam Parada, Olden Polynice, Livan Pyfrom, Eric Riley, Stanley Roberts, Ron Rollerson, Luke Schenscher, Nick Sheppard, Jabari Smith, Michael Smith, Vladimir Stepania, Michael Stewart, Wang Zhizhi, Sonny Watson, Joe White, Jayson Williams, Kevin Willis and Neil Yanke
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PassiontoWin
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| Posted: Thu Dec 15, 2005 7:26 pm Post subject: |
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| Definitely YES. |
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showtimelakers04
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| Posted: Thu Dec 15, 2005 7:26 pm Post subject: |
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| In a heartbeat |
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pokoy
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| Posted: Thu Dec 15, 2005 7:32 pm Post subject: |
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| Assuming Indy would throw in Foster or Harrison? Yes. |
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#StayInYoLane
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| Posted: Thu Dec 15, 2005 7:35 pm Post subject: |
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| not kwame |
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the_natural05
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| Posted: Thu Dec 15, 2005 7:37 pm Post subject: |
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| (bleep) NO |
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Leon
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| Posted: Thu Dec 15, 2005 7:39 pm Post subject: |
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I'd rather give up Bynum, George and the Miami Pick
Bynum will be largely ineffective for the next few years. By trading him, we get to keep our primary bigmen, thereby making us instant title contenders. |
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Charles
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| Posted: Thu Dec 15, 2005 7:40 pm Post subject: |
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| Leon wrote: | I'd rather give up Bynum, George and the Miami Pick
Bynum will be largely ineffective for the next few years. By trading him, we get to keep our primary bigmen, thereby making us instant title contenders. |
agree. |
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lakersflambe
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| Posted: Thu Dec 15, 2005 7:41 pm Post subject: |
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| pokoy wrote: | | Assuming Indy would throw in Foster or Harrison? Yes. |
Given Mike's three choices, I was about to vote a resounding NO. If Walsh does offer Foster -- I would only take Harrison if it was for an Artest trade swapping Kwame and Wafer -- then yes, hell yes! |
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Jacko
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| Posted: Thu Dec 15, 2005 7:42 pm Post subject: |
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Yes...........
then we should get Luke Schenscher and Curtis Borchardt |
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insidepresence
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| Posted: Thu Dec 15, 2005 7:42 pm Post subject: |
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| am I paranoid to think this might be a feeler? |
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Freakout
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| Posted: Thu Dec 15, 2005 7:43 pm Post subject: |
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| Yes because if we get Artest the cap space plan is out the window. Then we suddenly can use our ending contracts to bring in a player or two. I also believe we have a good shot at landing a Lorenzen Wright or Cato next year with a multi year MLE. |
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insidepresence
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| Posted: Thu Dec 15, 2005 7:45 pm Post subject: |
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| Freakout wrote: | | Yes because if we get Artest the cap space plan is out the window. Then we suddenly can use our ending contracts to bring in a player or two. I also believe we have a good shot at landing a Lorenzen Wright or Cato next year with a multi year MLE. |
we only have half the MLE left...you really think either of them will sign for 4 years at 10 mil? |
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OX1947
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| Posted: Thu Dec 15, 2005 7:45 pm Post subject: |
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Kwame, George for Artest and Croshere works under the CBA. We lose kwame but we have turiaf coming back and bynum improving, we play bynum more and let him get his skills together. Croshere adds an outside shooter at 6'10. Artest gives us a shut down defender with scoring ability.
Lineup:
Mihm, Bynum
Odom, Cook, Turiaf
Artest, Walton,Croshere
Bryant, Profit
Parker, Sasha
This team is very interesting. If they stay healthy, they could be a force. Bynum would have to start playing well consistently, like 5points 5 rebs a game. Turiaf would have to start playing well as far as hustle and heart by the end of the year. I would like to take a chance if they do go for it. |
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venturalakersfan
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| Posted: Thu Dec 15, 2005 7:46 pm Post subject: |
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| Leon wrote: | I'd rather give up Bynum, George and the Miami Pick
Bynum will be largely ineffective for the next few years. By trading him, we get to keep our primary bigmen, thereby making us instant title contenders. |
Bynum is a real back to the basket player with good hands, 7'+, long arms, great shot blocker. Mihm and/or Kwame are none of those things. We know Mihm's upside, and it is likely Kwame will take as long as Bynum to develop. Don't sacrifice the future for instant gratification. No way I would trade Bynum, I would gladly give up either Mihm or Kwame for Artest, but not both.
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LakerLogic
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| Posted: Thu Dec 15, 2005 7:46 pm Post subject: |
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| Tough one. Probably no. |
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Freakout
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| Posted: Thu Dec 15, 2005 7:48 pm Post subject: |
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| insidepresence wrote: | | Freakout wrote: | | Yes because if we get Artest the cap space plan is out the window. Then we suddenly can use our ending contracts to bring in a player or two. I also believe we have a good shot at landing a Lorenzen Wright or Cato next year with a multi year MLE. |
we only have half the MLE left...you really think either of them will sign for 4 years at 10 mil? |
I'm not talking about this years MLE. Adding Artest now doesn't make us a championship team, yet. This season would become a meshing year letting the chemistry between the core build. Next season (when we have a full MLE) would be the year to go for it. |
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OX1947
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| Posted: Thu Dec 15, 2005 7:48 pm Post subject: |
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| Charles wrote: | | Leon wrote: | I'd rather give up Bynum, George and the Miami Pick
Bynum will be largely ineffective for the next few years. By trading him, we get to keep our primary bigmen, thereby making us instant title contenders. |
agree. |
If Artest was a guarentee for the next 5 to 6 years, yes, but the chances of him retiring or whatever are high. Giving up Kwame and George is less of a risk then giving up Bynum. Any way you look at it, Bynum will be a star in this league, so no way in hell you give up a 7'1 280 pound center at 18 who has upside, for a guy who MIGHT play the next few years..... |
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venturalakersfan
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| Posted: Thu Dec 15, 2005 7:49 pm Post subject: |
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| insidepresence wrote: | | Freakout wrote: | | Yes because if we get Artest the cap space plan is out the window. Then we suddenly can use our ending contracts to bring in a player or two. I also believe we have a good shot at landing a Lorenzen Wright or Cato next year with a multi year MLE. |
we only have half the MLE left...you really think either of them will sign for 4 years at 10 mil? |
He said next year, we will have the full MLE to offer.
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insidepresence
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| Posted: Thu Dec 15, 2005 7:50 pm Post subject: |
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| Freakout wrote: | | insidepresence wrote: | | Freakout wrote: | | Yes because if we get Artest the cap space plan is out the window. Then we suddenly can use our ending contracts to bring in a player or two. I also believe we have a good shot at landing a Lorenzen Wright or Cato next year with a multi year MLE. |
we only have half the MLE left...you really think either of them will sign for 4 years at 10 mil? |
I'm not talking about this years MLE. Adding Artest now doesn't make us a championship team, yet. This season would become a meshing year letting the chemistry between the core build. Next season (when we have a full MLE) would be the year to go for it. |
We don't have the MLE next year...incase you didn't notice there is a new CBA rule which states that you can only use the MLE once every two years, or use whats left over the next year. Therefore we only have 2.5 mil left for next year |
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insidepresence
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| venturalakersfan wrote: | | insidepresence wrote: | | Freakout wrote: | | Yes because if we get Artest the cap space plan is out the window. Then we suddenly can use our ending contracts to bring in a player or two. I also believe we have a good shot at landing a Lorenzen Wright or Cato next year with a multi year MLE. |
we only have half the MLE left...you really think either of them will sign for 4 years at 10 mil? |
He said next year, we will have the full MLE to offer. |
No we really wont |
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Krispy Kreme
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our FO would be : cook/bynum  |
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venturalakersfan
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| insidepresence wrote: | | venturalakersfan wrote: | | insidepresence wrote: | | Freakout wrote: | | Yes because if we get Artest the cap space plan is out the window. Then we suddenly can use our ending contracts to bring in a player or two. I also believe we have a good shot at landing a Lorenzen Wright or Cato next year with a multi year MLE. |
we only have half the MLE left...you really think either of them will sign for 4 years at 10 mil? |
He said next year, we will have the full MLE to offer. |
No we really wont |
I think you are thinking about the LLE
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insidepresence
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| venturalakersfan wrote: | | insidepresence wrote: | | venturalakersfan wrote: | | insidepresence wrote: | | Freakout wrote: | | Yes because if we get Artest the cap space plan is out the window. Then we suddenly can use our ending contracts to bring in a player or two. I also believe we have a good shot at landing a Lorenzen Wright or Cato next year with a multi year MLE. |
we only have half the MLE left...you really think either of them will sign for 4 years at 10 mil? |
He said next year, we will have the full MLE to offer. |
No we really wont |
I think you are thinking about the LLE |
No, I'm really not |
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| Posted: Thu Dec 15, 2005 7:54 pm Post subject: |
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no way we give kwame away
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