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greenfrog
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| LakerLanny wrote: | He was great in the Olympics, I don't think it is fair to say he is done but it would be fair to wonder what in the world is going on because it is ugly right now.
He was tremendous in the Olympics. |
didn't they use him as the primary post threat? i'm pretty sure he wasn't trying to make decisions 18 feet from the basket. |
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brool story co
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| 90% of this forum is so (bleep) stupid. it's embarrassing this is what the laker fanbase consists of |
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| greenfrog wrote: | | LakerLanny wrote: | He was great in the Olympics, I don't think it is fair to say he is done but it would be fair to wonder what in the world is going on because it is ugly right now.
He was tremendous in the Olympics. |
didn't they use him as the primary post threat? i'm pretty sure he wasn't trying to make decisions 18 feet from the basket. |
You are correct, Spain had Marc Gasol playing more the role that Pau is playing now in the Lakers offense.
Pau will be fine, honestly he is the least of my concerns.
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| 32 wrote: | Mike Trudell@LakersReporter
| Quote: | | Gasol's been the only 1 of LAL's 4 stars to play full practice/game minutes (w/1 game off). He showed how tired he is tonight. |
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Pau can't practice 3 hour practices and then have anything left for games. |
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| MedRomLaker wrote: | | brool story co |
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jaesik
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| ulhg182 wrote: | | 90% of this forum is so (bleep) stupid. it's embarrassing this is what the laker fanbase consists of |
I love all the trolls that don't know anything about basketball who comment on here. You have something in common, you've probably never ran a play of basketball in your life or even played over an hour straight of basketball ever. |
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| greenfrog wrote: | can we end the myth that he's a "high IQ" player too.
sadly i think some people just assume this because he's white. |
What a ridiculous statement!
I'm going to take a wild guess here and assume you're not white. |
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Rek
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| City_Dawg wrote: | | greenfrog wrote: | can we end the myth that he's a "high IQ" player too.
sadly i think some people just assume this because he's white. |
I think its sadder for you to make such an assumption in the first place. |
Not to mention that Pau literally had to drop out of medical school in order to enter the NBA draft. Yeah, much concern about Gasol's IQ. When does the voting for preseason allstars begin, anyways?
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jaesik
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| He literally can't jump anymore... that means it's probably time to go. |
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Kobe_is_a_Beast24
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STOP BEING TWO FACED FANS! Wow... Pau is not done. He's passed his prime, yes. But he can still play and is a top PF. Why are Lakers fans here such bandwagons? MWP plays a good game "yeah man im so glad we kept him" then he takes some forced shots and doesn't shoot so well next game "trade that peace punk"
what's up with you laker fans? Pau isn't done. Stop hating on him just cause he didn't produce this game. Lots of things happened this game. We had 21 turnovers. Stop finding people to blame. It's a new offense. Give it time |
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| Rek wrote: | | City_Dawg wrote: | | greenfrog wrote: | can we end the myth that he's a "high IQ" player too.
sadly i think some people just assume this because he's white. |
I think its sadder for you to make such an assumption in the first place. |
Not to mention that Pau literally had to drop out of medical school in order to enter the NBA draft. Yeah, much concern about Gasol's IQ. When does the voting for preseason allstars begin, anyways?
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And if you think he doesn't have a high bball iq, please try to name me another PF who has as many APG as Pau. |
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No. And you're asking if all of LG will agree on the same thing? Pretty tall order. May as well ask for peace in the Middle East.
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jaesik
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| Kobe_is_a_Beast24 wrote: | STOP BEING TWO FACED FANS! Wow... Pau is not done. He's passed his prime, yes. But he can still play and is a top PF. Why are Lakers fans here such bandwagons? MWP plays a good game "yeah man im so glad we kept him" then he takes some forced shots and doesn't shoot so well next game "trade that peace punk"
what's up with you laker fans? Pau isn't done. Stop hating on him just cause he didn't produce this game. Lots of things happened this game. We had 21 turnovers. Stop finding people to blame. It's a new offense. Give it time |
He can't guard any PF, he can't score unless he has 10 ft between him and the opposing defense. He can pass and score when he's an inch from the basket. He can't run, he can't help on rotation d, his passing is somehow getting worse. He basically throws up a shot, yells, and hopes he gets a whistle almost every time. |
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| jaesik wrote: | | Kobe_is_a_Beast24 wrote: | STOP BEING TWO FACED FANS! Wow... Pau is not done. He's passed his prime, yes. But he can still play and is a top PF. Why are Lakers fans here such bandwagons? MWP plays a good game "yeah man im so glad we kept him" then he takes some forced shots and doesn't shoot so well next game "trade that peace punk"
what's up with you laker fans? Pau isn't done. Stop hating on him just cause he didn't produce this game. Lots of things happened this game. We had 21 turnovers. Stop finding people to blame. It's a new offense. Give it time |
He can't guard any PF, he can't score unless he has 10 ft between him and the opposing defense. He can pass and score when he's an inch from the basket. He can't run, he can't help on rotation d, his passing is somehow getting worse. He basically throws up a shot, yells, and hopes he gets a whistle almost every time. |
You somehow managed to be wrong on all accounts. Congratulations. |
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jaesik
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| TheJellosJigglin' wrote: | | jaesik wrote: | | Kobe_is_a_Beast24 wrote: | STOP BEING TWO FACED FANS! Wow... Pau is not done. He's passed his prime, yes. But he can still play and is a top PF. Why are Lakers fans here such bandwagons? MWP plays a good game "yeah man im so glad we kept him" then he takes some forced shots and doesn't shoot so well next game "trade that peace punk"
what's up with you laker fans? Pau isn't done. Stop hating on him just cause he didn't produce this game. Lots of things happened this game. We had 21 turnovers. Stop finding people to blame. It's a new offense. Give it time |
He can't guard any PF, he can't score unless he has 10 ft between him and the opposing defense. He can pass and score when he's an inch from the basket. He can't run, he can't help on rotation d, his passing is somehow getting worse. He basically throws up a shot, yells, and hopes he gets a whistle almost every time. |
You somehow managed to be wrong on all accounts. Congratulations. |
What PF can he guard? When can he ever score if there's even a little bit of help defense or somebody physical on him? |
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| LakerLanny wrote: | He was great in the Olympics, I don't think it is fair to say he is done but it would be fair to wonder what in the world is going on because it is ugly right now.
He was tremendous in the Olympics. |
One word: Support.
Pau is a little too sensitive, and doesn't do well when he's not feeling the connection to the coach or teammates.
With the right coach and team support, his motivation is SKY HIGH. We all saw it in 2009 and 2010 and the Olympics.
In 2011, Kobe couldn't even practice. Kobe is Pau's #1 floor buddy. Imagine Turner and Hooch minus Turner. Poor Hooch, I mean Pau.
In addition, 2011 and 2012 were pushing Bynum to the front priority-wise, which relegated Pau to 3rd spot.
Pau needs to play in the right position and be a focal point of plays.
He is more skilled offensively than Dwight -- he has more moves, a killer post game, runs the floor like a gazelle on the break. He is a complete player, skill-wise.
They should alternate playing center -- Pau is finesse and Dwight can bang, so put Dwight in against the bangers Pau doesn't like, and put Pau in center position whenever things are "civilized" under the basket.
Getting the right coach is the difference between Pau at 100% and Pau at 50%.
Kobe and Nash are going to play their guts out no matter who is coaching, so the biggest difference-maker is going to be someone who can manage Dwight's diva streak and Pau's on-court clinical depression. |
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| Captain_Napalm wrote: | | LakerLanny wrote: | He was great in the Olympics, I don't think it is fair to say he is done but it would be fair to wonder what in the world is going on because it is ugly right now.
He was tremendous in the Olympics. |
One word: Support.
Pau is a little too sensitive, and doesn't do well when he's not feeling the connection to the coach or teammates.
With the right coach and team support, his motivation is SKY HIGH. We all saw it in 2009 and 2010 and the Olympics.
In 2011, Kobe couldn't even practice. Kobe is Pau's #1 floor buddy. Imagine Turner and Hooch minus Turner. Poor Hooch, I mean Pau.
In addition, 2011 and 2012 were pushing Bynum to the front priority-wise, which relegated Pau to 3rd spot.
Pau needs to play in the right position and be a focal point of plays.
He is more skilled offensively than Dwight -- he has more moves, a killer post game, runs the floor like a gazelle on the break. He is a complete player, skill-wise.
They should alternate playing center -- Pau is finesse and Dwight can bang, so put Dwight in against the bangers Pau doesn't like, and put Pau in center position whenever things are "civilized" under the basket.
Getting the right coach is the difference between Pau at 100% and Pau at 50%.
Kobe and Nash are going to play their guts out no matter who is coaching, so the biggest difference-maker is going to be someone who can manage Dwight's diva streak and Pau's on-court clinical depression. |
Pretty sure 19 million is enough to support plenty of people. |
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| Posted: Thu Oct 25, 2012 9:49 pm Post subject: |
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| LakerLanny wrote: | | greenfrog wrote: | | LakerLanny wrote: | He was great in the Olympics, I don't think it is fair to say he is done but it would be fair to wonder what in the world is going on because it is ugly right now.
He was tremendous in the Olympics. |
didn't they use him as the primary post threat? i'm pretty sure he wasn't trying to make decisions 18 feet from the basket. |
You are correct, Spain had Marc Gasol playing more the role that Pau is playing now in the Lakers offense.
Pau will be fine, honestly he is the least of my concerns. |
He is officiated differently from the NBA to international play.
Defenders here can actually push back, and not get called for fouls, even if you're learning at a 40* angle on his back.
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| Rico24 wrote: | | 32 wrote: | Mike Trudell@LakersReporter
| Quote: | | Gasol's been the only 1 of LAL's 4 stars to play full practice/game minutes (w/1 game off). He showed how tired he is tonight. |
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what a pansy he gets paid all that money, and he cant even play 7 games + practices? ARE YOU SERIOUS?!?! |
he is human. u are going to eat birds in june! |
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| Posted: Thu Oct 25, 2012 10:15 pm Post subject: |
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| His performance for the Lakers vs. Spain last two seasons is dramatically different. But I do think it's partly because of how he is used. Get him close to basket. |
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| Kobe_is_a_Beast24 wrote: | STOP BEING TWO FACED FANS! Wow... Pau is not done. He's passed his prime, yes. But he can still play and is a top PF. Why are Lakers fans here such bandwagons? MWP plays a good game "yeah man im so glad we kept him" then he takes some forced shots and doesn't shoot so well next game "trade that peace punk"
what's up with you laker fans? Pau isn't done. Stop hating on him just cause he didn't produce this game. Lots of things happened this game. We had 21 turnovers. Stop finding people to blame. It's a new offense. Give it time |
You know instead of taking all of the opinions on the forum as a single entity why don't you pay attention to WHO is saying WHAT. Just because a few people state an opinion does not mean that is reflective of the entire website. If you pay close attention most of the people you call "band wagon" are new members without much posting experience. Those that don't really go back and forth are quality posters. You choose to ignore the latter. |
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| Posted: Thu Oct 25, 2012 10:28 pm Post subject: |
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| Rek wrote: | | City_Dawg wrote: | | greenfrog wrote: | can we end the myth that he's a "high IQ" player too.
sadly i think some people just assume this because he's white. |
I think its sadder for you to make such an assumption in the first place. |
Not to mention that Pau literally had to drop out of medical school in order to enter the NBA draft. Yeah, much concern about Gasol's IQ. When does the voting for preseason allstars begin, anyways?
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BASKETBALL IQ. Chris Webber supposedly was good a student and on the floor was as dumb as rocks. Walt Frazier, vice versa.
I'm gonna guess Magic's SAT's weren't all that high either. |
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| professional players such as kobe says Pau has a high IQ in Bball, but greenfrog truly believes he's not. greenfrog > kobe ... |
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