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PostPosted: Sun Jan 20, 2013 12:25 pm    Post subject: Phil Jackson the ONLY Coach for Kobe Bryant

Live and die by the three offense:

Rudy Tom: Miss Playoffs

Mike Dantoni: Miss Playoffs with the most talented roster in the NBA arguably.

Post up offense:

Phil Jackson:

Make playoffs with some of the worst players the earth has ever seen.



But we all know Jerry Buss and crew wanted Showtime with an aging roster that can't play a lick of transition defense. Now since critics are blasting the front office and Dantoni, they're trying to slow it down. But the problem is, we have a no defense coach with no success in a half court offense trying to implement a half court offense. What the (bleep) happened to the greatest franchise.
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 20, 2013 12:26 pm    Post subject:

someone merge this with the PJ thread in the general basketball forum please
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 20, 2013 12:26 pm    Post subject: Re: Phil Jackson the ONLY Coach for Kobe Bryant

Kobe24Dwight12 wrote:
Live and die by the three offense:

Rudy Tom: Miss Playoffs

Mike Dantoni: Miss Playoffs with the most talented roster in the NBA arguably.

Post up offense:

Phil Jackson:Make playoffs with some of the worst players the earth has ever seen.



But we all know Jerry Buss and crew wanted Showtime with an aging roster that can't play a lick of transition defense. Now since critics are blasting the front office and Dantoni, they're trying to slow it down. But the problem is, we have a no defense coach with no success in a half court offense trying to implement a half court offense. What the (bleep) happened to the greatest franchise.


Yes, but during the championship runs, the Laker bench was ridiculously good.
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 20, 2013 12:26 pm    Post subject:

(bleep) Jim Buss. He let his petty feud ruin this team. I thought picking Mike Brown over Adelman was unfathomably stupid, and then he TOPS IT the next season.
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 20, 2013 12:27 pm    Post subject:

Too late...should've could've would've....
Phil's not coming back...
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 20, 2013 12:28 pm    Post subject:

It's true. Antoni has Kobe take the most shots his taken in a long long while. 25 shots last game, 32 tonight, I'll be another 25 next game..
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 20, 2013 12:28 pm    Post subject:

This nonsense of trying to relive the Showtime glory years was insane.
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 20, 2013 12:29 pm    Post subject:

PJ has the pedigree and respect to tell Kobe what not to do. Coaches like DA and MB let Kobe coach himself.
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 20, 2013 12:29 pm    Post subject:

dvdrdiscs wrote:
PJ has the pedigree and respect to tell Kobe what not to do. Coaches like DA and MB let Kobe coach himself.

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PostPosted: Sun Jan 20, 2013 12:31 pm    Post subject:

maybe the lakers should go all out and get Pat Riley!!! give him a small %, like 5% of the lakers to be the coach and future endeavors.
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 20, 2013 12:33 pm    Post subject: Re: Phil Jackson the ONLY Coach for Kobe Bryant

Kobe24Dwight12 wrote:
Live and die by the three offense:

Rudy Tom: Miss Playoffs

Mike Dantoni: Miss Playoffs with the most talented roster in the NBA arguably.

Post up offense:

Phil Jackson:

Make playoffs with some of the worst players the earth has ever seen.



But we all know Jerry Buss and crew wanted Showtime with an aging roster that can't play a lick of transition defense. Now since critics are blasting the front office and Dantoni, they're trying to slow it down. But the problem is, we have a no defense coach with no success in a half court offense trying to implement a half court offense. What the (bleep) happened to the greatest franchise.


Funny how you conveniently omitted Mike Brown, probably because you (like most on here) probably hate him. But seems Kobe and the team did pretty good with him last year. Can't say about this year since he was only given 5 games before getting canned.
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 20, 2013 12:34 pm    Post subject:

Not coming back, moot point. Only important thing is getting rid of this scumbag coach - Give Bickerstaff a lot more money to coach if he's hesitant.
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 20, 2013 12:35 pm    Post subject:

(bleep) Mike Brown.

(bleep) Mike D'Antoni.

(bleep) it all.
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 20, 2013 12:35 pm    Post subject:

We fired Mike Brown too early.
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 20, 2013 12:36 pm    Post subject: Re: Phil Jackson the ONLY Coach for Kobe Bryant

cirehawk wrote:
Kobe24Dwight12 wrote:
Live and die by the three offense:

Rudy Tom: Miss Playoffs

Mike Dantoni: Miss Playoffs with the most talented roster in the NBA arguably.

Post up offense:

Phil Jackson:

Make playoffs with some of the worst players the earth has ever seen.



But we all know Jerry Buss and crew wanted Showtime with an aging roster that can't play a lick of transition defense. Now since critics are blasting the front office and Dantoni, they're trying to slow it down. But the problem is, we have a no defense coach with no success in a half court offense trying to implement a half court offense. What the (bleep) happened to the greatest franchise.


Funny how you conveniently omitted Mike Brown, probably because you (like most on here) probably hate him. But seems Kobe and the team did pretty good with him last year. Can't say about this year since he was only given 5 games before getting canned.


Mike Brown ran a post up offense but lacked rotations and a brain.
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 20, 2013 12:36 pm    Post subject:

CandyCanes wrote:
We fired Mike Brown too early.


agree
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 20, 2013 12:37 pm    Post subject:

CandyCanes wrote:
(bleep) Jim Buss. He let his petty feud ruin this team. I thought picking Mike Brown over Adelman was unfathomably stupid, and then he TOPS IT the next season.


Keep in mind, if Jerry disagreed with Jim with his Phil hate, he would've overruled him. Both of them picked their personal dislike of Jackson over winning.
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 20, 2013 12:38 pm    Post subject:

We're 6 games under .500 with 4 future HoF'ers. This is almost entirely a roster issue. We need to accept the roster isn't as good as we thought it was going to be. It's just such an awkward mess and there isn't any fixing it without trades. Too many old players and too many worthless young players. You can't win with that combination in this league, regardless of who the coach is

I wanted Phil from the beginning mostly bc if we still continued to suck it would have been with the greatest coach of all time at the helm and there would be no excuses from anyone for our failures. Now everyone is just to going to pin the blame on coaching because it's the easy way out.
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 20, 2013 12:39 pm    Post subject:

yet, some of the biggest flaws on this team: lack of urgency, lazy, that "flip the switch" mentality were all legacy of Phil Jackson.
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 20, 2013 12:39 pm    Post subject:

ForrestHump wrote:
It's true. Antoni has Kobe take the most shots his taken in a long long while. 25 shots last game, 32 tonight, I'll be another 25 next game..


kobe had games where he shot a lot with phil, i mean just look at some of the games he had back then.
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 20, 2013 12:39 pm    Post subject: Re: Phil Jackson the ONLY Coach for Kobe Bryant

Kobe24Dwight12 wrote:
cirehawk wrote:
Kobe24Dwight12 wrote:
Live and die by the three offense:

Rudy Tom: Miss Playoffs

Mike Dantoni: Miss Playoffs with the most talented roster in the NBA arguably.

Post up offense:

Phil Jackson:

Make playoffs with some of the worst players the earth has ever seen.

But we all know Jerry Buss and crew wanted Showtime with an aging roster that can't play a lick of transition defense. Now since critics are blasting the front office and Dantoni, they're trying to slow it down. But the problem is, we have a no defense coach with no success in a half court offense trying to implement a half court offense. What the (bleep) happened to the greatest franchise.


Funny how you conveniently omitted Mike Brown, probably because you (like most on here) probably hate him. But seems Kobe and the team did pretty good with him last year. Can't say about this year since he was only given 5 games before getting canned.


Mike Brown ran a post up offense but lacked rotations and a brain.



Yet with no training camp to speak of, we got the the 2nd round against the Thunder, and had a chance to win every game but the first one. Yeah, he has no brain.
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 20, 2013 12:40 pm    Post subject:

LandsbergerRules wrote:
CandyCanes wrote:
(bleep) Jim Buss. He let his petty feud ruin this team. I thought picking Mike Brown over Adelman was unfathomably stupid, and then he TOPS IT the next season.


Keep in mind, if Jerry disagreed with Jim with his Phil hate, he would've overruled him. Both of them picked their personal dislike of Jackson over winning.


hiring dantoni was a move that appealed to the Buss's ego, vanity, and the lure of counterintuition.

they have been trying to outsmart themsleves with coaching decisions outside of Phil for the past decade. all with disastrous results
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 20, 2013 12:40 pm    Post subject:

CandyCanes wrote:
We fired Mike Brown too early.

No we hired the wrong guy
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 20, 2013 12:44 pm    Post subject:

KobeDGreatesss wrote:
CandyCanes wrote:
We fired Mike Brown too early.

No we hired the wrong guy


Hired the wrong guy twice: Brown over Adelman and Dantoni over Phil.
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 20, 2013 12:44 pm    Post subject: Re: Phil Jackson the ONLY Coach for Kobe Bryant

cirehawk wrote:
Kobe24Dwight12 wrote:
cirehawk wrote:
Kobe24Dwight12 wrote:
Live and die by the three offense:

Rudy Tom: Miss Playoffs

Mike Dantoni: Miss Playoffs with the most talented roster in the NBA arguably.

Post up offense:

Phil Jackson:

Make playoffs with some of the worst players the earth has ever seen.

But we all know Jerry Buss and crew wanted Showtime with an aging roster that can't play a lick of transition defense. Now since critics are blasting the front office and Dantoni, they're trying to slow it down. But the problem is, we have a no defense coach with no success in a half court offense trying to implement a half court offense. What the (bleep) happened to the greatest franchise.


Funny how you conveniently omitted Mike Brown, probably because you (like most on here) probably hate him. But seems Kobe and the team did pretty good with him last year. Can't say about this year since he was only given 5 games before getting canned.


Mike Brown ran a post up offense but lacked rotations and a brain.



Yet with no training camp to speak of, we got the the 2nd round against the Thunder, and had a chance to win every game but the first one. Yeah, he has no brain.


Agree to disagree, not trying to turn this into a Mike Brown coaching argument. The fact of the matter is, as long as Kobe Bryant is the main focal point and main leader of this team, Phil Jackson is the only coach for him because he had the confidence to tell him NO at times and force him to execute an offense where it was rightly labeled as an equal opportunity offense. Mike Brown had the right idea with the Princeton, but he had a problem of draining his players in practice, couldn't receive the respect of his alpha players and had a problem with rotations.
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