Just A Thought - Would You Do This Trade : LO for Paul Pierce

kemi4kobes · Star Player Joined: 29 Jun 2005 Posts: 4135

The article on realgm.com of PPierce basically asking for a trade got me thinking? Would you trade LO for Pierce?

Their salaries are close enough :

LO : $11,465,875
Pierce : $13,843,157 ; Contract runs through 2007/08 season; The last year is a player option.

I don't think we'd lose a lot on rebounding and Pierce is passing more this season. More importantly, we'd be getting a guy that will have no problem helping out with scoring.

Here are their numbers this year :

Lamar :

PPG 14.6
RPG 9.5
APG 5.4
SPG 1.03
BPG .88
FG% .454
FT% .692
3P% .352
MPG 39.5

PPierce:

PPG 26.4
RPG 7.6
APG 4.5
SPG 1.21
BPG .47
FG% .498
FT% .814
3P% .393
MPG 38.8

The drawbacks could be that Pierce is two years older and chemistry might be an issue. Also, does he fit the triangle?

So guys what do you think? Would you do this trade?
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KBandKB · Star Player Joined: 11 Aug 2005 Posts: 2278

I'm not saying Lamar is better than Paul Pierce, it's just that he will learn a lot about the triangle, which takes time.

lakeshow03 · Star Player Joined: 19 Jul 2005 Posts: 3078

never really been a big fan of pierce,plus if were gonna trade odom i think we should get someone who can give us scoring and great D(artest)or a big who can score

Aussiesuede · Franchise Player Joined: 27 Jul 2005 Posts: 10964

Unfortunately Pierce has no respect for Kobe and needs the ball in his hands. It just isn't a good fit, even though Pierce is a great player. It'll never happen...
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lakeshow03 · Star Player Joined: 19 Jul 2005 Posts: 3078

poor mans kobe

Jacko · Star Player Joined: 25 Oct 2005 Posts: 5159

I don't like Pierce, but I would definitely take him over Odom.
Because he can score, which is the things that we need it the most right now. And he is also a solid rebounder, passer and defender!!

Worthy42 · Franchise Player Joined: 03 Aug 2004 Posts: 19952

Lamar all day and night over Paul "Kobe is nothing special really..." Pierce. :roll:

Hades · Posted: Tue Jan 10, 2006 8:17 pm Post subject:

Paul doesn't like Kobe,does he?
I wouldn't trade our best rebounder\playmaker for a swingman.

KobeButler · Franchise Player Joined: 14 Nov 2004 Posts: 10179

I would in a heart beat.
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venturalakersfan · Posted: Tue Jan 10, 2006 8:58 pm Post subject:

Answered hell no, though I don't agree with the rest of the response. Trading LO for Pierce would be a lateral move, I would only trade him for a quality big.
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KA_2 · Star Player Joined: 08 Jan 2005 Posts: 1883

In case people aren't aware of it (I'm sure many aren't), Paul Pierce has undergone a transformation in his game the last 1.5 seasons, and has continued it all this season. He is much less demanding of the ball, and lets the game come to him far more often than not. Quite frankly Pierce can do everything Odom can do and more, quite a bit more:

1) Pierce is an excellent passer, especially on the break, and quite frankly about as good as Odom. He's a heady player and would pick up the triangle immediately.

2) Pierce is a superb outside shooter. His 3-point shooting speaks for itself, but he can hit jumpers from anywhere on the floor. Arguably, he's a better jump shooter than Kobe, from mid-range or the arc. He'd spread the floor like Odom never could. Combined with his good court vision, he'd be a lethal fit in the triangle next to Kobe (and Cook occasionally). That's sick floor spacing right there, simply sick.

3) He's a dominant scorer quite regularly. He's averaging 27 ppg on 50% shooting this season. That's on mostly jumpers, which is amazing. He gets to the line a ton and is not only a legit 2nd option, but would be able to be a legit 1st option on nights Kobe is off (which is something you could never say of Odom).

4) He's a great rebounder for his position. Odom's still better, but the loss can be easily made up for with Turiaf's energy off the bench.

5) Their defense is a wash, though Pierce gets more superstar treatment than Odom, which will help come playoff time.

If this deal was on the table you do it without hesitation. Unfortunately Ainge never would, Laker hater from the Celtics days and all.
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tgf5 · Posted: Tue Jan 10, 2006 10:37 pm Post subject:

I wouldn't say HELL NO, just no.

cooguh · Sixth Man Joined: 27 Jun 2005 Posts: 67

i say Yes, but not so adamently because even with him we aren't contenders. The only condition I have is that he understands that the team is Kobe's and that he's willing to follow a guy he has no respect for.

ToughKarl · Posted: Tue Jan 10, 2006 11:20 pm Post subject:

Yes, the only problem is that will Paul be willing to be Lakers' second option?

ToughKarl · Posted: Tue Jan 10, 2006 11:22 pm Post subject:

It's also very interesting to see Kobe, Kobe's clone (Laron), and Kobe wannabe on the same team.

ramy002 · Sixth Man Joined: 10 Jan 2006 Posts: 51

While Pierce is the better player, Odom and Bryant have solid chemistry together and have become close friends. If a trade like this were to happen, there would be two ball-dominant players on the same court. And let's not also forget that Pierce doesn't respect Bryant. Pierce would be hesitant, if not unwilling, to become anyone's second fiddle, especially Kobe's.

hisairness#8 · Star Player Joined: 07 Jun 2005 Posts: 1892

I say no because this team is starting to gel and come together on offense. If you look at Phil Jackson's history as a coach a mid season trade does not happen to offten because the player coming in would need to understand the triangle quickly which is very hard to do in the middle of the season (see last season) if anything we need a vet bigman not another offensive option

LakersInFour · Posted: Wed Jan 11, 2006 1:22 am Post subject:

Hell No. Pierce plays no D, is not the rebounder that Odom is, and is not able to run the offense. For all of the flak that Odom takes around here, he is very good at certain things that Pierce is not. I think the "problem" is that people are looking for Odom to be an aggressive 2nd scorer, which he is not. He would look a LOT better if we had a consistent second scoring threat.

If Mihm continues to refine his post game, and stay out of foul trouble, and Kwame and Smush continue to gain consistency in their offensive game, Odom is going to wind up looking like a dream on down the line.

There's no way I'd trade what he brings to the table for Pierce.
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critical_beatdown · Star Player Joined: 01 Jan 2006 Posts: 2072

Pierce is freak'n awesome, I'd love to have him with Lamar and Kobe. Forget about Artest. Pierce is a steady mofo who always shows up. Artest is schizoid.

Hatori Hanzo · Starting Rotation Joined: 25 Jul 2005 Posts: 495

I think we underestimate team chemistry....say hell no to pierce
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ElginBaylor · Posted: Wed Jan 11, 2006 5:48 am Post subject:

Chemistry between Pierce and Kobe would be horrible. LO and Kobe may have their moments but they seem to be working really well together. Anyone who thinks that dumping LO for Pierce would improve this team is as dilusional as Artest.
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fansincemagic · Franchise Player Joined: 23 Jun 2005 Posts: 11051

No. I'll admit the idea of having a solid scorer (even inside and out) next to Kobe would take a lot of heat off. Problem is we, and the media would be counting down the seconds until there was a problem with who takes the clutch shot. With the way Peirce talks about being better than Kobe, I don't see him being humble enough to be one of the best 2nd options in the league. Honestly the biggest reason against the trade is the loss of Odom's rebounds and abilty to take opposing 4's off the dribble.

Now with Paul saying (at least) that he wants to stay in Boston, and the fact that he isn't pounding on the door to want to be a Laker...you'll have to give solid value in return. I think the only type of Odom/Pierce deal I'd attempt (after an understanding between him and Kobe) would be this....

Pierce and Jefferson for Odom, George and Cook or a 1st

Problem is, though you don't get enough statistically out of Jefferson (pts, rebs) a young big has too good of value. Basically, I wouldn't take an Odom/Pierce deal without getting a solid big as part of the package. Barring a 3rd team involved, Boston doesn't have much to offer.

kobekillinu2nite · Star Player Joined: 04 Jan 2006 Posts: 1774

Pierce is a biatch!!! If he got cut up in Boston, just imagine what they'd do to him in LA if he was a bust.........

VonWafer&KobeBryantFa · Posted: Wed Jan 11, 2006 1:52 pm Post subject:

Hell yeah, Pierce is a great scorer that would make us instant contenders