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lkjhf
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| d.j. stephens is a fuarkin freak. could play him as a super-undersized 4. |
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bonkers
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| Posted: Wed May 22, 2013 8:32 pm Post subject: |
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| Mike any info on Durand Scott? |
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Mike@LG
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| Posted: Wed May 22, 2013 9:21 pm Post subject: |
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| Fan0Bynum17 wrote: | | Mike@LG wrote: | | dcarter4kobe wrote: | | Basically Bazz has a higher ceiling but also the higher bust potential that comes along with it |
Yup. You'd kick yourself if you missed on drafting a player who has the ball-skills of Paul Pierce. |
Do you think Shabazz will be able to create off the dribble? |
Absolutely, even if it's just for a floater or a pull up jumpshot.
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Mike@LG
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| Posted: Wed May 22, 2013 9:46 pm Post subject: |
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| bonkers wrote: | | Mike any info on Durand Scott? |
ACC Defensive player of the year. Did well in the Portsmouth Invitational. Attacks the basket well. 6'3" SG 6'9" wingspan.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7075n467ois
Gets to the paint with ball-handling. Decent first step. 2nd/3rd gear is surprising. Accelerates to the hoop; drops his shoulder and footwork has him get by the defender by the 2nd or 3rd step. Can finish with either hand. Needs to clean up jumpshot. Can be TO prone with tunnel vision to the hoop. Positive A/TO ratio, but doesn't have PG intangibles or IQ. Shot creator. Proficient with floater. New York style guard. Everything is 15' and in. Great hesitation move after a PnR to read the defense and commit to the next move.
Has no idea how to create a comfortable midrange shot in an Iso situation. Needs more confidence in his 3pt. shot. Average vert. Average quicks. Great body control.
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T3R
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| Posted: Thu May 23, 2013 11:38 am Post subject: |
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| James Ennis kinda reminds me of Richard Dumas. |
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Mike@LG
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| Posted: Thu May 23, 2013 11:43 am Post subject: |
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| T3R wrote: | | James Ennis kinda reminds me of Richard Dumas. |
They're all of the same mold. Just, Dumas had an extra notch of vert and made his jumpshot pretty darn consistent. Never did much outside of hitting midrange Js and finishing in the paint.
Only Wiggins and DJ Stephens have Richard Dumas's vert.
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T3R
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| Posted: Thu May 23, 2013 11:51 am Post subject: |
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| Mike@LG wrote: | | T3R wrote: | | James Ennis kinda reminds me of Richard Dumas. |
They're all of the same mold. Just, Dumas had an extra notch of vert and made his jumpshot pretty darn consistent. Never did much outside of hitting midrange Js and finishing in the paint.
Only Wiggins and DJ Stephens have Richard Dumas's vert. |
Yeah Stephens does have Dumas's ups, this guy is freakish. |
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Sorry if this was already asked but Mike what do you think of Nate Wolters. I think he is a diamond in the rough...
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| Posted: Sun May 26, 2013 12:03 pm Post subject: |
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| Mike@LG wrote: | | T3R wrote: | | James Ennis kinda reminds me of Richard Dumas. |
They're all of the same mold. Just, Dumas had an extra notch of vert and made his jumpshot pretty darn consistent. Never did much outside of hitting midrange Js and finishing in the paint.
Only Wiggins and DJ Stephens have Richard Dumas's vert. |
Speaking of Stephens would you take a chance on him in the late 2nd round? He's a freak of nature athletically. Also has a 7 foot wingspan and the 5th fastest 3/4 sprint Draft Express has ever recorded. |
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Mike@LG
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| kaoss128 wrote: | | Mike@LG wrote: | | T3R wrote: | | James Ennis kinda reminds me of Richard Dumas. |
They're all of the same mold. Just, Dumas had an extra notch of vert and made his jumpshot pretty darn consistent. Never did much outside of hitting midrange Js and finishing in the paint.
Only Wiggins and DJ Stephens have Richard Dumas's vert. |
Speaking of Stephens would you take a chance on him in the late 2nd round? He's a freak of nature athletically. Also has a 7 foot wingspan and the 5th fastest 3/4 sprint Draft Express has ever recorded. |
I'd let him go undrafted, have him on the SPL team, and get seasoned for the Defenders; acquainted with the culture and the role he needs to take on when he enters the L.
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Mike@LG
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| KB#8,#24 wrote: | | Sorry if this was already asked but Mike what do you think of Nate Wolters. I think he is a diamond in the rough... |
He's on a lot of team's lists. I doubt he slips that far. Already trains like a vet and despite the athletic testing, showed his skill level at the combine.
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| Posted: Sun May 26, 2013 3:35 pm Post subject: |
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Mike@LG=Mike Schmitz (from DraftExpress)?
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Mike@LG
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| Posted: Sun May 26, 2013 3:39 pm Post subject: |
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| KB#8,#24 wrote: | | Mike@LG=Mike Schmitz (from DraftExpress)? |
No. Though, I wouldn't mind being that guy.
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wolfpaclaker
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Thanks for this thread and analysis Mike. You are great at this aspect of the game and its extremely helpful at this time of year.
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lakerfanaticPT
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| That kid Canaan looks awfully good. Too bad he will be gone by our pick. Looks like slim pickings at 48--maybe Solomon Hill if we are lucky. |
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| lakerfanaticPT wrote: | | That kid Canaan looks awfully good. Too bad he will be gone by our pick. Looks like slim pickings at 48--maybe Solomon Hill if we are lucky. |
Every time a player rises, another one drops. Canaan, I think, will play like a seasoned vet with a polished J. Nothing flashy, just a strong PG that can pick his spots well.
I'd love to have Solomon Hill as well. IQ, strong, motor, range.
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Do we have anything we can offer so we can move into Mike Muscala's range? Seems like a good prospect.
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| Posted: Sun Jun 09, 2013 6:17 am Post subject: |
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If we could somehow get solomon hill . wow
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| Posted: Tue Jun 25, 2013 9:06 pm Post subject: |
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| Any chance Ennis falls to us. Dude can be a stud with correct tutelage |
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There's definitely a chance. What I'm noticing is the early to mid 2nd round talent, would usually be considered late 1st round talent in other drafts. Elite athletes like CJ Leslie would be where guys like Travis Outlaw or Gerald Wallace would be. Guys like Archie Goodwin? Athletic project SG with some talent? Another late 1st round type, though he slipped considerably after the workouts.
Ennis could easily slip to the Lakers pick. Even the players I would like to be drafted, could arguably even go ahead of Ennis.
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| Idk if this is the right thread, but anyone watch this "job interview" show on ESPN? They bring in top prospects....but to speak to Jalen Rose and Bill Simmons, seriously. I like hearing the prospects, but I can't listen to those two. |
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| fansincemagic wrote: | | Idk if this is the right thread, but anyone watch this "job interview" show on ESPN? They bring in top prospects....but to speak to Jalen Rose and Bill Simmons, seriously. I like hearing the prospects, but I can't listen to those two. |
I ignore them and go to the DX interviews from the workouts. Especially liked Caldwell-Pope.
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| Posted: Thu Jun 27, 2013 11:31 am Post subject: |
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So, is the deal still on for us to get Bender + 17th?
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I realize that we need all the help we can get, but the chances that we end up with a Redd/Ginobli like talent in the 2nd round are probably less than 1%, while there is a 80% chance the person will be D-League bound. Of course we should do our best to pick that diamond in the rough, but we were probably end up with Cheik Samb v 2.0 (who is playing in the Iranian leagues right now)
Hope our 1st pick pans out...if we don't get Wiggins, Parker, Embiid, Exum, Randle, or even Smart, I'll be disappointed  |
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