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PostPosted: Thu May 09, 2013 7:45 am    Post subject: All-Time League 2013 (Draft Complete)

League Notes

1) This draft is going to take a while to complete, but please be considerate in terms of helping it move along. Everyone will have 24 hours to be on the clock, but we obviously want to make more than one pick a day. There are 4 moderators involved in the draft, so if you know that you wonít be able to be online and youíre going to be on the clock soon, please PM one of us a couple of players that youíre considering drafting so we can make the pick for you. If you donít make your pick within 24 hours of the last pick, the next person will be on the clock and you can make your pick whenever you show up.

2) Games will be simulated on www.whatifsports.com , and players will be simulated based on their 4th best season. Each player is given a ďsalaryĒ by the simulator, which is essentially the equivalent of a single, all-encompassing rating. Therefore, the 4th best season will be determined by the playerís 4th highest salary/rating. If you want to compare players on their site you have to join it. Itís free.

3) Iíve done this before, it was a lot of fun, and I thought the simulator was very good. I would encourage you to try to build a team that actually makes sense rather than slap 20ppg players together. The simulator accounts for multiple skills sets and just like in real life, thereís more than one way to win.

***HOW TO RESEARCH PLAYERS ON WHATIFSPORTS***

1) Go to www.whatifsports.com
2) Sign Up for a Free Account
3) Go to Sim Leagues > Basketball > Get a New Team
4) On this page you should see an option for full season leagues which cost money and then below an option that says, "Exhibition Season: FREE!".
5) Click on this option and press continue. This should allow you to draft a free team and all the search functions that the site incorporates.

Draft Rules

1) If you donít pick within 24 hours of the previous pick, the next person is on the clock. You can pick whenever you show up, but you may have fallen a few draft spots.

2) Players must have played at least 4 seasons in the NBA to be draft eligible.

3) Any seasons in the ABA or any other non-NBA leagues will NOT be eligible for determining a playerís 4th best season.

4) Trading is allowed.

Draft Notes

1) For some reason, George Mikan's 1951 & 1952 seasons aren't included on WIS. This makes his 4th best season the 1956 season, which was by far his worst year as a pro. His '51 & '52 seasons were arguably his two best seasons.

As a result, I will be simulating Mikan based on his second best season.

League Managers (Divisions will be set once draft is over)

KBH (Atlanta Dirty Birds)
ChefLinda (Boston Strong)
TheSixthRing (Brooklyn Black Chocolate Stouts)
Runway8 (Chicago Bull-Crap)
composite (Cleveland Rocks)
encina1 (Detroit Gems)
Michlake (Golden State 49ers)
Vishnu (Hickory Hoosiers)
RG73 (Houston Rockets)
OregonLakersGuy (Los Angeles Lakers)
GoldenThroat (Manhattan Alpacas)
Klone_dd (Memphis Blues)
4ml (Miami Heatles)
valrod33 (Minnesota Wrath of Kahn)
ocho (New Orleans Brass)
Jeffs (Phoenix Fury)
MysticWang (Portland Pale Alers)
1since71 (San Antonio Burrs)
LakerSanity (San Diego Clippers)
jonnybravo (Seattle Kings of Sacramento)
24 (Spirit of St. Louis)
SHAQ/KOBE = #1 (Utah Stars)


Trades

1) The Utah Stars trade the 18th (Jerry West) & 27th (Kevin Durant) picks to the Manhattan Alpacas for the 6th (LeBron James) and 50th (Wes Unseld) picks.

2) The San Antonio Burrs trade the 31st (John Havlicek) & 58th (Bob McAdoo) picks in the draft to the Spirit of St. Louis for the 29th (Chris Paul) and 73rd (Joe Dumars) picks.

3) The Detroit Gems trade the 40th (Dikembe Mutumbo), 48th (Chris Mullin), & 128th (Jamaal Wilkes) picks to the Miami Heatles for the 34th (Patrick Ewing), 78th (James Worthy), & 122nd (Derrick Rose) picks.

4) The San Diego Clippers trade the 46th (Kevin McHale), 134th (Paul Millsap), & 178th picks to the Utah Stars for the 62nd (Billy Cunningham), 106th (Andrei Kirilenko) & 115th (Mitch Richmond) picks.

5) The Miami Heatles trade the 55th (Elton Brand), 128th (Jamaal Wilkes), & 166th picks to the San Antonio Burrs for the 75th (Vince Carter), 102nd (Antonio McDyess), & 119th (Connie Hawkins) picks.

6) The Phoenix Fury trade the 48th (Chris Mullin), 85th (Rasheed Wallace), & 129th (Bill Walton) picks to the San Antonio Burrs for the 55th (Elton Brand), 73th (Joe Dumars), & 146th (Adriand Dantley) picks.

7) The San Diego Clippers trade the 62nd (Billy Cunningham), 131st (Norm Van Lier), & 219th picks to the Cleveland Rocks for the 72nd (Mookie Blaylock), 105th (Shane Battier), & 193rd picks.

8) The Spirit of St. Louis trade the 60th (Alex English), 117th (Chris Bosh), & 148th (Stephon Marbury) picks to the Minnesota Wrath of Khan for the 82nd (Marques Johnson), 95th (Mark Price), & 126th (Paul Westphal) picks.

9) The Spirit of St. Louis trade the 58th (Bob McAdoo) & 161st picks to the Golden State 49ers for the 67th (Willis Reed) & 111th (Hersey Hawkins) picks.

10) The Boston Strong trade the 97th (Terry Porter) & 124th (Rodney McCray) picks to the Miami Heatles for the 99th (Horace Grant) and 119th (Connie Hawkins) picks.

11) The Portland Pale Alers trade the 160th (Gerald Wallace) & 204th picks to the Cleveland Rocks for the 167th & 186th picks.

Draft Order (per http://www.random.org/sequences/?min=1&max=22&col=1&format=html&rnd=new)

1st Round

1) Memphis Blues - Wilt Chamberlain, C
2) San Diego Clippers - Kareem Abdul-Jabbar, C
3) Brooklyn Black Chocolate Stouts - Michael Jordan, SG
4) Phoenix Fury - David Robinson, C
5) Detroit Gems - Magic Johnson, PG
6) Utah Stars (via Manhattan Alpacas) - LeBron James, SF
7) Minnesota Wrath of Khan - Oscar Robertson, PG
8) Los Angeles Lakers - Hakeem Olajuwon, C
9) Boston Strong - Kobe Bryant, SG
10) Portland Pale Alers - Karl Malone, PF
11) Miami Heatles - Kevin Garnett, PF
12) Chicago Bull-Crap - Larry Bird, SF
13) Seattle Kings of Sacramento - Shaquille O'Neal, C
14) San Antonio Burrs - Tim Duncan, PF/C
15) Atlanta Dirty Birds - Moses Malone, C
16) Spirit of St. Louis Bill Russell, C
17) Cleveland Rocks Dirk Nowitzki, F
18) Manhattan Alpacas (via Utah Stars) - Jerry West, PG/SG
19) Houston Rockets - Charles Barkley, PF
20) Hickory Hoosiers - Elvin Hayes, PF/C
21) New Orleans Brass - Elgin Baylor, SF
22) Golden State 49ers - Julius Erving, SF

2nd Round

23) Golden State 49ers - Gary Payton, PG
24) New Orleans Brass - Bob Pettit, PF/C
25) Hickory Hoosiers - John Stockton, PG
26) Houston Rockets - Dwyane Wade, SG
27) Manhattan Alpacas (via Utah Stars) - Kevin Durant, SF
28) Cleveland Rocks - Dwight Howard, C
29) San Antonio Burrs (via Spirit of St. Louis) - Chris Paul, PG
30) Atlanta Dirty Birds - Isiah Thomas, PG
31) Spirit of St. Louis (via San Antonio Burrs) John Havlicek, SG/SF
32) Seattle Kings of Sacramento Tracy McRady( ), SG/SF
33) Chicago Bull-Crap Larry Nance, PF
34) Detroit Gems (via Miami Heatles) - Patrick Ewing, C
35) Portland Pale Alers - Grant Hill, SF
36) Boston Strong - Nate Thurmond, C
37) Los Angeles Lakers - Scottie Pippen, SF
38) Minnesota Wrath of Khan - Reggie Miller, SG
39) Manhattan Alpacas - Walt Frazier, PG
40) Miami Heatles (via Detroit Gems) - Dikembe Mutombo, C
41) Phoenix Fury - Shawn Marion, SF/PF
42) Brooklyn Black Chocolate Stouts - Bob Lanier, C
43) San Diego Clippers - Paul Pierce, SF
44) Memphis Blues - Jason Kidd, PG

3rd Round

45) Memphis Blues - Jerry Lucas, PF
46) Utah Stars (via San Diego Clippers) - Kevin McHale, PF
47) Brooklyn Black Chocolate Stouts - Ben Wallace, PF/C
48) San Antonio Burrs (via Phoenix Fury) - Chris Mullin, SF
49) Miami Heatles (via Detroit Gems) - Clyde Drexler, SG
50) Utah Stars (via Manhattan Alpacas) - Wes Unseld, C
51) Minnesota Wrath of Khan - Artis Gilmore, C
52) Los Angeles Lakers - George Gervin, SG/SF
53) Boston Strong - Dominique Wilkins, SF
54) Portland Pale Alers Manu Ginobili, SG
55) Phoenix Fury (via San Antonio Burrs, via Miami Heatles) - Elton Brand, PF
56) Chicago Bull-Crap - Sidney Moncrief, SG/PG
57) Seattle Kings of Sacramento - Chris Webber, PF
58) Golden State 49ers (via Spirit of St. Louis, via San Antonio Burrs) - Bob McAdoo, PF/C
59) Atlanta Dirty Birds - Ray Allen, SG
60) Minnesota Wrath of Khan (via Spirit of St. Louis) - Alex English, SF
61) Cleveland Rocks - Allen Iverson, PG/SG
62) Cleveland Rocks (via San Diego Clippers, via Utah Stars) - Billy Cunningham, SG/SF
63) Houston Rockets - Alonzo Mourning, C
64) Hickory Hoosiers - Walt Bellamy, PF/C
65) New Orleans Brass - Dave Cowens, PF/C
66) Golden State 49ers - Eddie Jones, SG

4th Round

67) Spirit of St. Louis (via Golden State 49ers) - Willis Reed, C
68) New Orleans Brass - Kevin Johnson, PG
69) Hickory Hoosiers Andre Iguodala, SG/SF
70) Houston Rockets Fat Lever, PG
71) Utah Stars Lamar Odom, SF/PF
72) San Diego Clippers (via Cleveland Rocks) Mookie Blaylock, PG
73) Phoenix Fury (via San Antonio Burrs, via Spirit of St. Louis) Joe Dumars, SG/PG
74) Atlanta Dirty Birds Pau Gasol, PF/C
75) Miami Heatles (via San Antonio Burrs) - Vince Carter, SG
76) Seattle Kings of Sacramento - Alvin Robertson, SG
77) Chicago Bull-Crap - Gus Johnson, PF
78) Detroit Gems (via Miami Heatles) - James Worthy, SF
79) Portland Pale Alers - Amar'e Stoudemire, C
80) Boston Strong - Chauncey Billups, PG
81) Los Angeles Lakers - Nate Archibald, PG
82) Spirit of St. Louis (via Minnesota Wrath of Khan) - Marques Johnson, SF
83) Manhattan Alpacas - Dennis Rodman, PF
84) Detroit Gems - Earl Monroe, SG
85) San Antonio Burrs (via Phoenix Fury) - Rasheed Wallace, PF
86) Brooklyn Black Chocolate Stouts - Rick Barry, SF
87) San Diego Clippers - Josh Smith, PF
88) Memphis Blues - Bobby Dandridge, SF

5th Round

89) Memphis Blues - Nick Anderson, SG
90) San Diego Clippers - Ron Harper, SG
91) Brooklyn Black Chocolate Stouts - Maurice Cheeks, PG
92) Phoenix Fury - Dennis Johnson, PG
93) Detroit Gems - Dave DeBusschere, PF
94) Manhattan Alpacas - Robert Parish, C
95) Spirit of St. Louis (via Minnesota Wrath of Khan) - Mark Price, PG
96) Los Angeles Lakers - Buck Williams, PF
97) Miami Heatles (via Boston Strong) - Terry Porter, PG
98) Portland Pale Alers - Rajon Rondo, PG
99) Boston Strong (via Miami Heatles) - Horace Grant, PF
100) Chicago Bull-Crap - Michael Ray Richardson, PG/SG
101) Seattle Kings of Sacramento - Anferne Hardaway, PG/SG
102) Miami Heatles (via San Antonio Burrs) - Antonio McDyess, SF/PF
103) Atlanta Dirty Birds - Jamal Mashburn, SF
104) Spirit of St. Louis - Brook Lopez, C
105) San Diego Clippers (via Cleveland Rocks) - Shane Battier, SG/SF
106) San Diego Clippers (via Utah Stars) - Andrei Kirilenko, SF/PF
107) Houston Rockets - Glen Rice, SF
108) Hickory Hoosiers - Dan Roundfield, F/C
109) New Orleans Brass - David Thompson, SG
110) Golden State 49ers - Tyson Chandler, C

6th Round

111) Spirit of St. Louis (via Golden State 49ers) - Hersey Hawkins, SG
112) New Orleans Brass - Shawn Kemp, PF
113) Hickory Hoosiers - Andre Miller, PG
114) Houston Rockets - Spencer Haywood, PF
115) San Diego Clippers (via Utah Stars) - Mitch Richmond, SG
116) Cleveland Rocks - Tim Hardaway, PG
117) Minnesota Wrath of Khan (via Spirit of St. Louis) - Chris Bosh, PF
118) Atlanta Dirty Birds - Steve Nash, PG
119) Boston Strong (via Miami Heatles, via San Antonio Burrs) - Connie Hawkins, SF/PF
120) Seattle Kings of Sacramento - Jeff Hornacek, SG
121) Chicago Bull-Crap - Jerry Sloan, SG
122) Detroit Gems (via Miami Heatles) - Derrick Rose, PG
123) Portland Pale Alers - Bobby Jones, SF/PF
124) Miami Heatles (via Boston Strong) - Rodney McCray, SF
125) Los Angeles Lakers - Lenny Wilkens, PG
126) Spirit of St. Louis (via Minnesota Wrath of Khan) - Paul Westphal, SG
127) Manhattan Alpacas - Dale Ellis, SG/SF
128) San Antonio Burrs (via Miami Heatles, via Detroit Gems) - Jamaal Wilkes, SF
129) San Antonio Burrs (via Phoenix Fury) - Bill Walton, C
130) Brooklyn Black Chocolate Stouts - Dan Majerle, SG/SF
131) Cleveland Rocks (via San Diego Clippers) - Norm Van Lier, PG
132) Memphis Blues - Bruce Bowen, SF

7th Round

133) Memphis Blues - Raja Bell, SG
134) Utah Stars (via San Diego Clippers) - Paul Millsap, PF
135) Brooklyn Black Chocolate Stouts - Jack Sikma C/PF
136) Phoenix Fury - AC Green, PF
137) Detroit Gems - Jermaine O'Neal, PF/C
138) Manhattan Alpacas - Kevin Willis, PF/C
139) Minnesota Wrath of Khan - Carmelo Anthony, SF
140) Los Angeles Lakers - George Mikan, C
141) Boston Strong - Baron Davis, PG
142) Portland Pale Alers - Terrell Brandon, PG
143) Miami Heatles - Mike Miller, SG/SF
144) Chicago Bull-Crap - Joe Johnson, SG/SF
145) Seattle Kings of Sacramento - Deron Williams, PG
146) Phoenix Fury (via San Antonio Burrs) - Adrian Dantley, SF
147) Atlanta Dirty Birds - Marcus Camby, C/PF
148) Minnesota Wrath of Khan (via Spirit of St. Louis) - Stephon Marbury, PG
149) Cleveland Rocks - Caldwell Jones, C
150) Utah Stars - Kerry Kittles, SG
151) Houston Rockets - Mark Eaton, C
152) Hickory Hoosiers - Tayshaun Prince, SF
153) New Orleans Brass - Ron Artest, SF
154) Golden State 49ers - Bernard King, SF

8th Round

155) Golden State 49ers - Tree Rollins, C
156) New Orleans Brass - David Bing, PG
157) Hickory Hoosiers - Brent Barry, SG
158) Houston Rockets - Norm Nixon, PG/SG
159) Utah Stars - Arvydas Sabonis, C
160) Portland Pale Alers (via Cleveland Rocks) - Gerald Wallace, SF/PF
161) Golden State 49ers (via Spirit of St. Louis) - Don Buse, PG
162) Atlanta Dirty Birds - Doug Christie, SG
163) San Antonio Burrs - Micheal Cooper, SG/SF
164) Seattle Kings of Sacramento - Rashard Lewis, SF/PF
165) Chicago Bull-Crap - George T. Johnson, C
166) San Antonio Burrs (via Miami Heatles) - Stephen Curry, PG
167) Cleveland Rocks (via Portland Pale Alers) - Richard Jefferson, SF
168) Boston Strong - Theo Ratliff, C
169) Los Angeles Lakers - Clifford Robinson, SF/PF
170) Minnesota Wrath of Khan - Charles Oakley, PF
171) Manhattan Alpacas - Rod Strickland, PG
172) Detroit Gems - Bob Love, SF
173) Phoenix Fury - Bo Outlaw, SF/PF
174) Brooklyn Black Chocolate Stouts - Gus Williams, PG
175) San Diego Clippers - Nate McMillan, PG
176) Memphis Blues - Roy Hinson, PF/C

9th Round

177) Memphis Blues - Dick Van Arsdale, SG
178) Utah Stars (via San Diego Clippers) - Clifford Ray, C
179) Brooklyn Black Chocolate Stouts - Anthony Mason, PF
180) Phoenix Fury - Paul Pressey, SG
181) Detroit Gems - Derrick Coleman, PF/C
182) Manhattan Alpacas - Paul Silas, PF
183) Minnesota Wrath of Khan - Latrell Sprewell, SG/SF
184) Los Angeles Lakers - Michael Finley, SF
185) Boston Strong - Pete Maravich, SG
186) Cleveland Rocks (via Portland Pale Alers) - Donyell Marshall, SF/PF
187) Miami Heatles - Benoit Benjamin, C
188) Chicago Bull-Crap - Peja Stojakovic, SF
189) Seattle Kings of Sacramento - Vlade Divac, C
190) San Antonio Burrs - Taj Gibson, PF
191) Atlanta Dirty Birds - Derek Harper, PG
192) Spirit of St. Louis - Dale Davis, PF/C
193) San Diego Clippers (via Cleveland Rocks) - Rick Mahorn, PF/C
194) Utah Stars - Aaron McKie, SG
195) Houston Rockets - Detlef Schrempf, SF
196) Hickory Hoosiers - Hot Rod Williams, PF/C
197) New Orleans Brass - Yao Ming, C
198) Golden State 49ers - Kenny Smith, PG

10th Round

199) Golden State 49ers - Joakim Noah, C
200) New Orleans Brass - Mike Bibby, PG
201) Hickory Hoosiers - Bill Bridges, PF
202) Houston Rockets - Walter Davis, SF
203) Utah Stars - Ben Gordon, SG
204) Portland Pale Alers (via Cleveland Rocks) - Steve Kerr, PG
205) Spirit of St. Louis - Cedric Ceballos, SF
206) Atlanta Dirty Birds - Toni Kukoc, SF
207) San Antonio Burrs - Chet Walker, SF
208) Seattle Kings of Sacramento - Luol Deng, SF
209) Chicago Bull-Crap - Shawn Bradley, C
210) Miami Heatles - Monta Ellis, PG
211) Portland Pale Alers - Javale McGee, C
212) Boston Strong - Kyle Korver, SF
213) Los Angeles Lakers - Gail Goodrich, SG
214) Minnesota Wrath of Khan - Raef LaFrentz, C/PF
215) Manhattan Alpacas - Tony Allen, SG
216) Detroit Gems - Larry Hughes, SG
217) Phoenix Fury - Don Reid, PF/C
218) Brooklyn Black Chocolate Stouts - Elmore Smith, C
219) Cleveland Rocks (via San Diego Clippers) - Reggie Lewis, SF
220) Memphis Blues - Delonte West, PG/SG

11th Round

221) Memphis Blues - Chris Andersen, C
222) San Diego Clippers - Joel Przybilla, C
223) Brooklyn Black Chocolate Stouts - Bonzi Wells, SG/SF
224) Phoenix Fury - Manute Bol, C
225) Detroit Gems - Hubert Davis, SG
226) Manhattan Alpacas - Bob Cousy, PG
227) Minnesota Wrath of Khan - Allan Houston, SG
228) Los Angeles Lakers - Thurl Bailey, PF
229) Boston Strong - P.J. Brown, PF
230) Portland Pale Alers - Andrew Bynum, C
231) Miami Heatles - Reymond Felton, PG
232) Chicago Bull-Crap - Dee Brown, PG
233) Seattle Kings of Sacramento - Danny Granger, SF
234) San Antonio Burrs - Gar Heard, SG
235) Atlanta Dirty Birds - Dudley Bradley, SG
236) Spirit of St. Louis - Tony Parker, PG
237) Cleveland Rocks - Vin Baker, PF/C
238) Utah Stars - Darren Collison, PG
239) Houston Rockets - World B. Free, SG
240) Hickory Hoosiers - Maurice Lucas, PF
241) New Orleans Brass - Sean Elliott, SF
242) Golden State 49ers - Jared Dudley, SF

12th Round

243) Golden State 49ers - Terry Tyler, SF
244) New Orleans Brass - Jason Richardson, SF/SG
245) Hickory Hoosiers - Matt Barnes, SF
246) Houston Rockets - Danny Manning, SF/PF
247) Utah Stars - Antonio Daniels, PG/SG
248) Cleveland Rocks - Jalen Rose, SF
249) Spirit of St. Louis - Thabo Sefolosha, SG
250) Atlanta Dirty Birds - Antonio Davis, PF
251) San Antonio Burrs - Quentin Richardson, SG/SF
252) Seattle Kings of Sacramento - Russell Westbrook, PG
253) Chicago Bull-Crap - Samuel Dalembert, C
254) Miami Heatles - Bob Gross, SF
255) Portland Pale Alers - Carlos Boozer, PF
256) Boston Strong - Lionel Hollins, PG
257) Los Angeles Lakers - Paul Arizin, SF
258) Minnesota Wrath of Khan - Mark Jackson, PG
259) Manhattan Alpacas - Brad Daugherty, C
260) Detroit Gems - Robert Horry, SF/PF
261) Phoenix Fury - Jose Calderon, PG
262) Brooklyn Black Chocolate Stouts - Wesley Person, SG
263) San Diego Clippers - Archie Clark, PG
264) Memphis Blues - Orlando Woolridge, SF


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PostPosted: Thu May 09, 2013 7:57 am    Post subject:

If anyone has any questions, please ask them now. I'd like to make sure there's no confusion before we get started.
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PostPosted: Thu May 09, 2013 9:19 am    Post subject:

Is there a way to access a player database by position rather than by team on their site? For those who've done this before, what site(s) do people use to assess historical player stats, etc?
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PostPosted: Thu May 09, 2013 9:46 am    Post subject:

ChefLinda wrote:
Is there a way to access a player database by position rather than by team on their site? For those who've done this before, what site(s) do people use to assess historical player stats, etc?


You can't really do that on whatifsports.com without having a premium membership, which costs $10. IMO, the best/easiest to use place is www.basketball-reference.com, when it comes to historical stats. They also have a player rater that's voted on by fans that might be useful as a reference. (although there's a bizarre anti-Kobe campaign by some folks, who "down vote" him because they hate him. Last I saw he was the 277th ranked player in history. ...but outside of him it's a decent guidelines for prevailing opinion)

Linda...do you know how to unlock this forum, or does that have to be Ex, LC, or DB? Mods are the only ones who can post in it right now.
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PostPosted: Thu May 09, 2013 10:31 am    Post subject:

ChefLinda wrote:
Is there a way to access a player database by position rather than by team on their site? For those who've done this before, what site(s) do people use to assess historical player stats, etc?


Linda, MysticWang figured out how to research players through WhatIfSports for free. I will include instructions in the first post.
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PostPosted: Thu May 09, 2013 11:03 am    Post subject:

Thanks, GT. I think someone above our paygrade has to unlock the forum.
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PostPosted: Thu May 09, 2013 11:50 am    Post subject:

Damn! Already screwed. Too low to get a great, to high to get back to back picks. I hate you GT...

BTW, I am the Spirit of St Louis representing Seattle....
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PostPosted: Thu May 09, 2013 4:32 pm    Post subject:

I'm #2!!!! I really don't know what to do. I have to think about the rules and figure out who is worth a damn. I've never played this kind of game before.
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PostPosted: Thu May 09, 2013 11:40 pm    Post subject:

I can post now
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PostPosted: Fri May 10, 2013 5:49 am    Post subject:

Next week is horrible for me, and I may not be on the Internet much. GT, I can just send you my list of top 50-players or 100 or whatever, and you can just pick for me based on that if I cannot make it?
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PostPosted: Fri May 10, 2013 6:44 am    Post subject:

encina1 wrote:
Next week is horrible for me, and I may not be on the Internet much. GT, I can just send you my list of top 50-players or 100 or whatever, and you can just pick for me based on that if I cannot make it?


Of course.
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PostPosted: Fri May 10, 2013 7:01 am    Post subject:

GoldenThroat wrote:
encina1 wrote:
Next week is horrible for me, and I may not be on the Internet much. GT, I can just send you my list of top 50-players or 100 or whatever, and you can just pick for me based on that if I cannot make it?


Of course.



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PostPosted: Fri May 10, 2013 10:42 am    Post subject:

Not in love with some of these defensive numbers. Wade has had a 100 def rating three times? Cooper never had a defensive rating above 90... Same goes for 3x DPoY Dwight Howard. Chris Paul with the same def ratings as Rondo? Bill Russell with a D rating in the 70s for most of his career?

Yeesh. Going to have to do a lot of research on this site to make my picks, because they don't seem to follow reality with some of their ratings.
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PostPosted: Fri May 10, 2013 11:08 am    Post subject:

Jeffs wrote:
Not in love with some of these defensive numbers. Wade has had a 100 def rating three times? Cooper never had a defensive rating above 90... Same goes for 3x DPoY Dwight Howard. Chris Paul with the same def ratings as Rondo? Bill Russell with a D rating in the 70s for most of his career?

Yeesh. Going to have to do a lot of research on this site to make my picks, because they don't seem to follow reality with some of their ratings.


yeah I had noticed that. too. Was ranking Dwight and Bill Russell. There's more stuff too which makes this interesting.
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12-13 LeBron has a defensive rating of 72. MAKES SENSE!
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PostPosted: Fri May 10, 2013 12:33 pm    Post subject:

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Not in love with some of these defensive numbers. Wade has had a 100 def rating three times? Cooper never had a defensive rating above 90... Same goes for 3x DPoY Dwight Howard. Chris Paul with the same def ratings as Rondo? Bill Russell with a D rating in the 70s for most of his career?

Yeesh. Going to have to do a lot of research on this site to make my picks, because they don't seem to follow reality with some of their ratings.


yeah I had noticed that. too. Was ranking Dwight and Bill Russell. There's more stuff too which makes this interesting.


Where are the stats that are being used at?
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PostPosted: Fri May 10, 2013 12:36 pm    Post subject:

GT explained how to register for a free account on whatifsports in his first post. That's where we're getting these numbers from.
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PostPosted: Fri May 10, 2013 2:33 pm    Post subject:

We don't actually have a salary cap though, do we?
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PostPosted: Fri May 10, 2013 2:44 pm    Post subject:

SHAQ/KOBE=#1 wrote:
We don't actually have a salary cap though, do we?


I don't think so.
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PostPosted: Fri May 10, 2013 3:06 pm    Post subject:

I'm willing to move down a few picks in the 1st round if anyone is interested in the 4th overall pick. PM me offers.
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PostPosted: Fri May 10, 2013 3:23 pm    Post subject:

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I'm willing to move down a few picks in the 1st round if anyone is interested in the 4th overall pick. PM me offers.


I'm willing to publicly offer you Ocho's first 2 picks.
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PostPosted: Fri May 10, 2013 3:38 pm    Post subject:

I've spent some time thinking about this. Although I was disappointed at first, I don't mind being at the end now. I'll listen if people at the very top want to trade down though.
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PostPosted: Fri May 10, 2013 5:13 pm    Post subject:

Jeffs wrote:
I'm willing to move down a few picks in the 1st round if anyone is interested in the 4th overall pick. PM me offers.


Same here if anyone is interested in the 2nd pick. Would even be willing to godown a lot of spots, but my asking price would likely be a bit steep.
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PostPosted: Fri May 10, 2013 7:18 pm    Post subject:

How many spots are we drafting?
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PostPosted: Fri May 10, 2013 7:42 pm    Post subject:

12 rounds
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