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PostPosted: Wed Jul 03, 2013 8:42 am    Post subject:

Atlanta Dirty Birds Player Years

86-87 Isiah Thomas
90-91 Derek Harper
01-02 Steve Nash
04-05 Ray Allen
00-01 Doug Christie
84-85 Dudley Bradley
99-00 Jamal Mashburn
97-98 Toni Kukoc
11-12 Pau Gasol
96-97 Antonio Davis
79-80 Moses Malone
00-01 Marcus Camby
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 03, 2013 11:39 am    Post subject:

Rotation: Golden State 49ers

PG-(96-97)Gary Payton(36mpg) (09-10)Raymond Felton(12)/ (78-79) Don Buse(0)

SG-(81-82) Bernard King(22)/ (09-10) Raymond Felton (16)/ (92-93) Kenny Smith(10)

SF-(76-77)Julius Erving(36)/(81-82) Bernard King(12) (96-97) Eddie Jones(0)

PF-(77-78)B.McAdoo(40)/ (82-83)Terry Tyler(8) (08-09) (86-87) Kevin Willis(0)

C-(12-13)T.Chandler(32)/ (86-87) Kevin Willis(16)/ (81-82)Tree Rollins(0)
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 03, 2013 7:55 pm    Post subject:

San Diego Clippers (Game 8 Line up v. Seattle Kings of Sacramento)

PG: Mookie Blaylock (33) / Nate McMillan (15) / Larry Costello (0) / Ron Harper (0)
SG: Shane Battier (25) / Larry Costello (15) / Nate McMillan (8) / Mitch Richmond (0)
SF: Paul Pierce (36) / Andrei Kirilenko (8) / Shane Battier (4) / Mitch Richmond (0)
PF: Josh Smith (32) / Andrei Kirilenko (16) / Rick Mahorn (0) / Paul Pierce (0)
C: Kareem Abdul-Jabbar (43) / Rick Mahorn (5) / Josh Smith (0) / Bill Laimbeer (0)

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San Diego Clippers (Game 9 Line up v. Spirit of St. Louis)

PG: Mookie Blaylock (33) / Nate McMillan (15) / Larry Costello (0) / Ron Harper (0)
SG: Shane Battier (30) / Nate McMillan (10) / Ron Harper (8) / Mitch Richmond (0)
SF: Andrei Kirilenko (26) / Paul Pierce (22) / Shane Battier (0) / Mitch Richmond (0)
PF: Paul Pierce (16) / Josh Smith (32) / Andrei Kirilenko (0) / Rick Mahorn (0)
C: Kareem Abdul-Jabbar (43) / Rick Mahorn (5) / Josh Smith (0) / Bill Laimbeer (0)
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 05, 2013 4:05 am    Post subject:

Change of lineup for Lakers

PG: Nate Archibald - 28 mpg, Gail Goodrich - 15 mpg, Lenny Wilkens - 5 mpg
SG: George Gervin - 26 mpg, Lenny Wilkens - 10 mpg, Gail Goodrich - 12 mpg, Michael Finley - 0 mpg
SF: Scottie Pippen -38 mpg, George Gervin - 10 mpg, Paul Arizin - 0 mpg
PF: Buck Williams - 28 mpg, Thurl Bailey - 10 mpg, Clifford Robinson - 10 mpg
C: Hakeem Olajuwon - 36 mpg, Mark West - 12 mpg
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 06, 2013 11:14 pm    Post subject:

Pretty much trying anything now. Sorry for creating the extra work.

PG: Nate Archibald - 36 mpg, Gail Goodrich - 12 mpg, Lenny Wilkens - 0 mpg
SG: George Gervin - 26 mpg, Scottie Pippen -10 mpg, Gail Goodrich - 12 mpg, Michael Finley - 0 mpg
SF: Scottie Pippen -26 mpg, George Gervin - 10 mpg, Paul Arizin - 12 mpg
PF: Buck Williams - 30 mpg, Clifford Robinson - 10 mpg, Thurl Bailey - 8 mpg
C: Hakeem Olajuwon - 36 mpg, Mark West - 10 mpg, Clifford Robinson - 2 mpg
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 07, 2013 7:26 am    Post subject:

San Antonio revised lineup:

C: Tim Duncan(00-01) 37 / Bill Walton(84-85) 11
PF: Harvey Catchings(81-82) 26 / Tim Duncan(00-01) 3 / Bill Walton(84-85) 13 / Keon Clark(00-01 raptors) 6
SF: Chris Mullin(89-90) 37 / Donyell Marshall(02-03) 11

SG: Michael Cooper(81-82) 33 / Jamaal Wilkes(81-82) 15
PG: Chris Paul(11-12) 36 / Steph Curry(11-12) 12

taj gibson(12-13) 0 / corey maggette(06-07) 0


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PostPosted: Sun Jul 07, 2013 10:57 am    Post subject:

Phoenix Fury Updated Lineup:

PG: [86-87] Dennis Johnson (33) | [96-97] Joe Dumars (15) | [86-87] Paul Pressey (0) | [10-11] Jose Calderon (0)
SG: [85-86] Adrian Dantley (33) | [96-97] Joe Dumars (15)
SF: [06-07] Shawn Marion (37) | [96-97] Bo Outlaw (11) | [85-86] Adrian Dantley (0)
PF: [04-05] Elton Brand (26) | [88-89] AC Green (22) | [96-97] Bo Outlaw (0) | [00-01] Don Reid (0)
C: [95-96] David Robinson (37) | [04-05] Elton Brand (11) | [00-01] Don Reid (0) | [90-91] Joakim Noah (0)
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 08, 2013 11:40 am    Post subject:

Cleveland Rocks Player Years

05-06 Allen Iverson
97-98 Tim Hardaway
73-74 Norm Van Lier
71-72 Billy Cunningham
02-03 Richard Jefferson
00-01 Jalen Rose
88-89 Reggie Lewis
05-06 Rasheed Wallace
00-01 Dirk Nowitzki
06-07 Dwight Howard
97-98 Vin Baker
83-84 Caldwell Jones


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PostPosted: Thu Jul 11, 2013 7:12 am    Post subject:

Player years included:



PG:(12-13) LeBron James - 35 (09-10) Darren Collison - 13 (07-08) Ben Gordon-0
SG: (01-02) Kerry Kittles - 30 (00-01) Antonio Daniels 18
SF: (00-01) Lamar Odom - 30 (08-09) Paul Millsap 18 (03-04) Aaron McKie - 0
PF: (84-85) Kevin McHale - 32 (72-73) Clifford Ray 16
C: (68-69) Wes Unseld - 32 (96-97) Arvydas Sabonis 16
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 11, 2013 10:01 am    Post subject:

MysticWang wrote:
Cleveland Rocks Player Years

05-06 Allen Iverson
97-98 Tim Hardaway
73-74 Norm Van Lier
71-72 Billy Cunningham
02-03 Richard Jefferson
00-01 Jalen Rose
88-89 Reggie Lewis
00-01 Donyell Marshall
00-01 Dirk Nowitzki
06-07 Dwight Howard
97-98 Vin Baker 19.2
83-84 Caldwell Jones


Shouldn't Jalen Rose be 04-05, Marshall be 02-03?
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 11, 2013 10:04 am    Post subject:

Heatles Lineup against Cleveland:

PG: (89-90) Terry Porter 36, (05-06) Vince Carter 12, (81-82) Mike Gale 0, (09-10) Monta Ellis 0
SG: (90-91) Drexler 35, (75-76) Bob Gross 13
SF: (87-88) Rodney McCray 24, (97-98) McDyess 24, (04-05) Mike Miller 0
PF: (99-00) Garnett 40, (97-98) McDyess 8
C: (97-98) Mutombo 40, (09-10) JaVale McGee 8

For Mike Gale: Please use season 81-82 (that's his 4th season in NBA)
For JaVale McGee: Please use his 5th season (09-10)
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 11, 2013 10:14 am    Post subject:

4ml wrote:
MysticWang wrote:
Cleveland Rocks Player Years

05-06 Allen Iverson
97-98 Tim Hardaway
73-74 Norm Van Lier
71-72 Billy Cunningham
02-03 Richard Jefferson
00-01 Jalen Rose
88-89 Reggie Lewis
00-01 Donyell Marshall
00-01 Dirk Nowitzki
06-07 Dwight Howard
97-98 Vin Baker 19.2
83-84 Caldwell Jones


Shouldn't Jalen Rose be 04-05, Marshall be 02-03?


No Jalen Rose is correct at 00-01, and the Marshall error has already been discussed.
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 11, 2013 10:17 am    Post subject:

4ml wrote:
Heatles Lineup against Cleveland:

PG: (89-90) Terry Porter 36, (05-06) Vince Carter 12, (81-82) Mike Gale 0, (09-10) Monta Ellis 0
SG: (90-91) Drexler 35, (75-76) Bob Gross 13
SF: (87-88) Rodney McCray 24, (97-98) McDyess 24, (04-05) Mike Miller 0
PF: (99-00) Garnett 40, (97-98) McDyess 8
C: (97-98) Mutombo 40, (09-10) JaVale McGee 8

For Mike Gale: Please use season 81-82 (that's his 4th season in NBA)
For JaVale McGee: Please use his 5th season (09-10)


I mentioned this earlier, but you cannot pick McGee's 5th best season. That's a precedent that hasn't been breached, nor should it, imo.
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 11, 2013 10:30 am    Post subject:

I edited Cleveland's player years above to reflect the Rasheed Wallace trade.
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 11, 2013 10:39 am    Post subject:

MysticWang wrote:
4ml wrote:
Heatles Lineup against Cleveland:

PG: (89-90) Terry Porter 36, (05-06) Vince Carter 12, (81-82) Mike Gale 0, (09-10) Monta Ellis 0
SG: (90-91) Drexler 35, (75-76) Bob Gross 13
SF: (87-88) Rodney McCray 24, (97-98) McDyess 24, (04-05) Mike Miller 0
PF: (99-00) Garnett 40, (97-98) McDyess 8
C: (97-98) Mutombo 40, (09-10) JaVale McGee 8

For Mike Gale: Please use season 81-82 (that's his 4th season in NBA)
For JaVale McGee: Please use his 5th season (09-10)


I mentioned this earlier, but you cannot pick McGee's 5th best season. That's a precedent that hasn't been breached, nor should it, imo.


I was told it was all right to use McGee's 5th year by Pete. Either way, whatever you guys decide please let me know so I can make the necessary changes.
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 11, 2013 10:44 am    Post subject: Re: All Time League 2013 Rotations & Rotation Changes

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PG: (91-92) John Stockton-36, (00-01) Andre Miller-12, (03-04) Brent Barry-0, (06-07) Andre Iguodala-0
SG: (00-01) Andre Miller-22, (03-04) Brent Barry-22, (06-07) Andre Iguodala-4, (05-06) Tayshaun Prince-0
SF: (06-07) Andre Iguodala-33, (78-79) Dan Roundfield-15, (05-06) Tayshaun Prince-0, (93-94) Hot Rod Williams-0
PF: (68-69) Elvin Hayes-37, (78-79) Dan Roundfield-11, (93-94) Hot Rod Williams-0, (70-71) Bill Bridges-0
C: (split [65-66]) Walt Bellamy-40, (68-69) Elvin Hayes-8, (70-71) Bill Bridges-0, (82-83) Maurice Lucas-0

Bench: (11-12) Matt Barnes
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 11, 2013 10:45 am    Post subject:

4ml wrote:
MysticWang wrote:
4ml wrote:
Heatles Lineup against Cleveland:

PG: (89-90) Terry Porter 36, (05-06) Vince Carter 12, (81-82) Mike Gale 0, (09-10) Monta Ellis 0
SG: (90-91) Drexler 35, (75-76) Bob Gross 13
SF: (87-88) Rodney McCray 24, (97-98) McDyess 24, (04-05) Mike Miller 0
PF: (99-00) Garnett 40, (97-98) McDyess 8
C: (97-98) Mutombo 40, (09-10) JaVale McGee 8

For Mike Gale: Please use season 81-82 (that's his 4th season in NBA)
For JaVale McGee: Please use his 5th season (09-10)


I mentioned this earlier, but you cannot pick McGee's 5th best season. That's a precedent that hasn't been breached, nor should it, imo.


I was told it was all right to use McGee's 5th year by Pete. Either way, whatever you guys decide please let me know so I can make the necessary changes.


Oh, I didn't realize that. I'll make a note of it.
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 11, 2013 10:45 am    Post subject:

4ml wrote:
MysticWang wrote:
4ml wrote:
Heatles Lineup against Cleveland:

PG: (89-90) Terry Porter 36, (05-06) Vince Carter 12, (81-82) Mike Gale 0, (09-10) Monta Ellis 0
SG: (90-91) Drexler 35, (75-76) Bob Gross 13
SF: (87-88) Rodney McCray 24, (97-98) McDyess 24, (04-05) Mike Miller 0
PF: (99-00) Garnett 40, (97-98) McDyess 8
C: (97-98) Mutombo 40, (09-10) JaVale McGee 8

For Mike Gale: Please use season 81-82 (that's his 4th season in NBA)
For JaVale McGee: Please use his 5th season (09-10)


I mentioned this earlier, but you cannot pick McGee's 5th best season. That's a precedent that hasn't been breached, nor should it, imo.


I was told it was all right to use McGee's 5th year by Pete. Either way, whatever you guys decide please let me know so I can make the necessary changes.


I did say that I was fine with using players' 5th best season earlier on in the process when the split season issue first came up, so when 4ml asked me I said it was fine. However, I want to come to an equitable solution on this, especially considering that McGee was one of Mystic's players.

Frankly, the whole "4th best season" thing was intended to be something where the simmer could just go and draft the 4th best season without thought, and this has become more of an issue than I ever envisioned it being.

Amp...speak your peace and we'll come to a fair outcome. I certainly didn't mean to job you out of McGee or mislead you.
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 11, 2013 10:50 am    Post subject:

MysticWang wrote:
4ml wrote:
MysticWang wrote:
4ml wrote:
Heatles Lineup against Cleveland:

PG: (89-90) Terry Porter 36, (05-06) Vince Carter 12, (81-82) Mike Gale 0, (09-10) Monta Ellis 0
SG: (90-91) Drexler 35, (75-76) Bob Gross 13
SF: (87-88) Rodney McCray 24, (97-98) McDyess 24, (04-05) Mike Miller 0
PF: (99-00) Garnett 40, (97-98) McDyess 8
C: (97-98) Mutombo 40, (09-10) JaVale McGee 8

For Mike Gale: Please use season 81-82 (that's his 4th season in NBA)
For JaVale McGee: Please use his 5th season (09-10)


I mentioned this earlier, but you cannot pick McGee's 5th best season. That's a precedent that hasn't been breached, nor should it, imo.


I was told it was all right to use McGee's 5th year by Pete. Either way, whatever you guys decide please let me know so I can make the necessary changes.


Oh, I didn't realize that. I'll make a note of it.


Thanks and if it's against the rules, I'll make the change. Please let me know either way what you guys have decided in this matter.
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 11, 2013 11:07 am    Post subject:

GoldenThroat wrote:
4ml wrote:
MysticWang wrote:
4ml wrote:
Heatles Lineup against Cleveland:

PG: (89-90) Terry Porter 36, (05-06) Vince Carter 12, (81-82) Mike Gale 0, (09-10) Monta Ellis 0
SG: (90-91) Drexler 35, (75-76) Bob Gross 13
SF: (87-88) Rodney McCray 24, (97-98) McDyess 24, (04-05) Mike Miller 0
PF: (99-00) Garnett 40, (97-98) McDyess 8
C: (97-98) Mutombo 40, (09-10) JaVale McGee 8

For Mike Gale: Please use season 81-82 (that's his 4th season in NBA)
For JaVale McGee: Please use his 5th season (09-10)


I mentioned this earlier, but you cannot pick McGee's 5th best season. That's a precedent that hasn't been breached, nor should it, imo.


I was told it was all right to use McGee's 5th year by Pete. Either way, whatever you guys decide please let me know so I can make the necessary changes.


I did say that I was fine with using players' 5th best season earlier on in the process when the split season issue first came up, so when 4ml asked me I said it was fine. However, I want to come to an equitable solution on this, especially considering that McGee was one of Mystic's players.

Frankly, the whole "4th best season" thing was intended to be something where the simmer could just go and draft the 4th best season without thought, and this has become more of an issue than I ever envisioned it being.

Amp...speak your peace and we'll come to a fair outcome. I certainly didn't mean to job you out of McGee or mislead you.


My issue with McGee is that he does not have a split season as his fourth best season (which is where the other exceptions have been made). I think using a guy's fifth best season, when his fourth isn't a split, opens the door for more issues and work. Early on you and I discussed if team managers could pick any player's season 4th best or worse, and it seemed most reasonable to just stick with the 4th. Obviously, we didn't know the split season issue early on.

Personally, my team would look quite a bit different during the draft had we been able to choose any season lower salaried than their fourth best. I think it's a fine idea, but maybe too late to set the precedent. That being said, I have no issue with making an exception with McGee since 4ML is under the impression that it's okay to use that season.
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 11, 2013 11:33 am    Post subject:

MysticWang wrote:
GoldenThroat wrote:
4ml wrote:
MysticWang wrote:
4ml wrote:
Heatles Lineup against Cleveland:

PG: (89-90) Terry Porter 36, (05-06) Vince Carter 12, (81-82) Mike Gale 0, (09-10) Monta Ellis 0
SG: (90-91) Drexler 35, (75-76) Bob Gross 13
SF: (87-88) Rodney McCray 24, (97-98) McDyess 24, (04-05) Mike Miller 0
PF: (99-00) Garnett 40, (97-98) McDyess 8
C: (97-98) Mutombo 40, (09-10) JaVale McGee 8

For Mike Gale: Please use season 81-82 (that's his 4th season in NBA)
For JaVale McGee: Please use his 5th season (09-10)


I mentioned this earlier, but you cannot pick McGee's 5th best season. That's a precedent that hasn't been breached, nor should it, imo.


I was told it was all right to use McGee's 5th year by Pete. Either way, whatever you guys decide please let me know so I can make the necessary changes.


I did say that I was fine with using players' 5th best season earlier on in the process when the split season issue first came up, so when 4ml asked me I said it was fine. However, I want to come to an equitable solution on this, especially considering that McGee was one of Mystic's players.

Frankly, the whole "4th best season" thing was intended to be something where the simmer could just go and draft the 4th best season without thought, and this has become more of an issue than I ever envisioned it being.

Amp...speak your peace and we'll come to a fair outcome. I certainly didn't mean to job you out of McGee or mislead you.


My issue with McGee is that he does not have a split season as his fourth best season (which is where the other exceptions have been made). I think using a guy's fifth best season, when his fourth isn't a split, opens the door for more issues and work. Early on you and I discussed if team managers could pick any player's season 4th best or worse, and it seemed most reasonable to just stick with the 4th. Obviously, we didn't know the split season issue early on.

Personally, my team would look quite a bit different during the draft had we been able to choose any season lower salaried than their fourth best. I think it's a fine idea, but maybe too late to set the precedent. That being said, I have no issue with making an exception with McGee since 4ML is under the impression that it's okay to use that season.


I've no problem with replacing McGee. I completely get where you're coming from.

If I can chime in on the rules, IMHO, the fair way to deal with guys who were drafted but have a split in season 4, their 3rd season should be allowed. It should be only allowed if they play on the same team that they were originally drafted for. It shouldn't be allowed for FA pickups.
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 11, 2013 11:42 am    Post subject:

composite wrote:
Cleveland Rocks -

PF: Dirk Nowitzki (PF) 28; Rasheed Wallace (PF) 8; Vin Baker (PF) 12

C: Dwight Howard (C) 36 ; Caldwell Jones (C)12

SF: Billy Cunningham 24 ; Dirk 12 ; Richard Jefferson (SF) 12

SG: Iverson 18; T. Hardaway 18; B Cunningham 12

PG: Tim Hardaway (PG) 18; Iverson 18; Norm Van Lier (PG) 12


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PostPosted: Thu Jul 11, 2013 5:23 pm    Post subject:

San Antonio revised linup(nov. 2 game)

C: Tim Duncan(00-01) 40 / Bill Walton(84-85) 8

PF: Harvey Catchings(81-82) 26 / Bill Walton(84-85) 16 / Keon Clark(00-01 raptors) 6

SF: Chris Mullin(89-90) 37 / Donyell Marshall(02-03) 11

SG: Michael Cooper(81-82) 33 / Jamaal Wilkes(81-82) 15

PG: Chris Paul(11-12) 36 / Steph Curry(11-12) 12

Taj Gibson(12-13) 0 / Corey Maggette(06-07) 0
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 11, 2013 6:52 pm    Post subject:

Rotation: Golden State 49ers

PG-(96-97)Gary Payton(36mpg) (09-10)Raymond Felton(12)/ (78-79) Don Buse(0)

SG-(81-82) Bernard King(22)/ (09-10) Raymond Felton (16)/ (92-93) Kenny Smith(10)

SF-(76-77)Julius Erving(36)/(81-82) Bernard King(12) (96-97) Eddie Jones(0)

PF-(77-78)B.McAdoo(40)/ (82-83)Terry Tyler(8) (08-09) (86-87) Kevin Willis(0)

C-(12-13)T.Chandler(32)/ (86-87) Kevin Willis(16)/ (81-82)Tree Rollins(0)
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 11, 2013 9:29 pm    Post subject:

Memphis Blues revised

PG: (00-01) Jason Kidd 33 / (09-10) Delonte West 10 / (69-70) Dick Van Arsdale 5
SG: (94-95) Nick Anderson 30 / (69-70) Dick Van Arsdale 8 / (75-76) Bobby Dandridge 6 / (09-10) Delonte West 4
SF: (75-76) Bobby Dandridge 24 / (04-05) Darius Miles 14 / (85-86) Orlando Woolridge 10 / (08-09) Raja Bell 0
PF: (63-64) Jerry Lucas 30 / (04-05) Darius Miles 11 / (85-86) Orlando Woolridge 7 / (91-92) John Salley 0
C: (65-66) Wilt Chamberlain 46 / (03-04) Chris Andersen 2 / (91-92) John Salley 0
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