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Looking like the Sixers are going to waive Thabeet, Clips to waive M. Raduljica & waive or stretch Delfino.
All three will be looking for a new home. 
If we sign Thabeet he would be our new Mbenga.
He would be a great addition for our Taco promotions and nothing more.  |
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| Posted: Wed Aug 27, 2014 6:27 am Post subject: |
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We already have Sacre.
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| Posted: Wed Aug 27, 2014 6:33 am Post subject: |
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| if delfino becomes available i would like us to take a good look at him... |
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| Posted: Wed Aug 27, 2014 6:38 am Post subject: |
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| gus26 wrote: | | if delfino becomes available i would like us to take a good look at him... |
I think he's out for the next season with an injury.
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| Posted: Wed Aug 27, 2014 6:45 am Post subject: |
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| yinoma2001 wrote: | | We already have Sacre. |
Actually I was kidding. Tacos are out; the Dance is in! |
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| Posted: Wed Aug 27, 2014 6:54 am Post subject: |
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| yinoma2001 wrote: | | gus26 wrote: | | if delfino becomes available i would like us to take a good look at him... |
I think he's out for the next season with an injury. |
Perfect! He fits right in with "why not take a chance for the min" philosophy so commonly used around here to declare there is no risk in signing every underachiever, every player with a bad attitude or the chronically injured even remotely available.
I think this is where I'm supposed to state " sign him Mitch!" |
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| Posted: Wed Aug 27, 2014 8:43 am Post subject: |
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| I wonder why Bledsoe would even accept the qualifying offer.... if he gets hurt again next year and is out for a big portion of games... then he loses all his value and he will get a crapshoot contract.... I don't believe for one second that he's considering signing the qualifying offer... he loses a lot of future stakes if he accepts the Suns offer. |
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| Posted: Wed Aug 27, 2014 8:51 am Post subject: |
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| K0BEE 2.0 wrote: | | I wonder why Bledsoe would even accept the qualifying offer.... if he gets hurt again next year and is out for a big portion of games... then he loses all his value and he will get a crapshoot contract.... I don't believe for one second that he's considering signing the qualifying offer... he loses a lot of future stakes if he accepts the Suns offer. |
You're kind of all over the place here.
You're saying if he accepts the Suns' offer he is screwed; if he takes the QO he is screwed.
So which is it?
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| Posted: Wed Aug 27, 2014 9:00 am Post subject: |
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| For his own sake.... he should wait until the Suns budge and give him the contract he desires... if he gets the QO then it's a big risk considering his questionable health. |
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| Posted: Wed Aug 27, 2014 9:02 am Post subject: |
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| K0BEE 2.0 wrote: | | For his own sake.... he should wait until the Suns budge and give him the contract he desires... if he gets the QO then it's a big risk considering his questionable health. |
What's his leverage then? Not much.
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| Posted: Wed Aug 27, 2014 9:05 am Post subject: |
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| Yes.... but that is why players have agents to do the work for them. |
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| K0BEE 2.0 wrote: | | Yes.... but that is why players have agents to do the work for them. |
When the agent has nothing to leverage, what is the point?
Bledsoe and his agent played this wrong and now has to make the decision of taking PHX's offer (below what HE thinks he's worth) or the QO (major risks).
PHX has 3 PGs without Bledsoe (Dragic, Thomas, Ennis) and while Bledsoe is a good player, he's not indispensable ala LBJ or Durant.
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| Posted: Wed Aug 27, 2014 9:11 am Post subject: |
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| yinoma2001 wrote: | | K0BEE 2.0 wrote: | | Yes.... but that is why players have agents to do the work for them. |
When the agent has nothing to leverage, what is the point?
Bledsoe and his agent played this wrong and now has to make the decision of taking PHX's offer (below what HE thinks he's worth) or the QO (major risks).
PHX has 3 PGs without Bledsoe (Dragic, Thomas, Ennis) and while Bledsoe is a good player, he's not indispensable ala LBJ or Durant. |
I blame Rich Paul.
And by association I also blame Lebron James  |
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| Posted: Wed Aug 27, 2014 9:14 am Post subject: |
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| You bring up a good assessment on the Suns already having 3 PG's so why are the Suns so motivated to keep Bledsoe? they have the PG spot already jammed.... and I don't think they want any dispute about who will get the most minutes... all of there PG's are gonna be good players in this league... |
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| K0BEE 2.0 wrote: | | You bring up a good assessment on the Suns already having 3 PG's so why are the Suns so motivated to keep Bledsoe? they have the PG spot already jammed.... and I don't think they want any dispute about who will get the most minutes... all of there PG's are gonna be good players in this league... |
Probably looking for a viable S&T. But time is running out on that and he'll have to sign something soon (QO or the extension).
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| Is Oct 1 the deadline to accept the QO? there is a lot of time to work on S&T scenarios.... I hope the Lakers are giving full effort in there attempt to appease the Suns.... I think it really depends if the Suns want Nash for one last reunion that is the only way I see the Lakers getting Bledsoe. |
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| Posted: Wed Aug 27, 2014 9:42 am Post subject: |
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| K0BEE 2.0 wrote: | | For his own sake.... he should wait until the Suns budge and give him the contract he desires... if he gets the QO then it's a big risk considering his questionable health. |
the suns won't budge. they don't need him. they have dragic who is much more healthier, and just got thomas.
bledsoe, to the sun, is a nice asset to have, as long as they can have him on a trade-able, reasonable contract. what they offered him is a bit high now, imo, but will be very reasonable come 2016 with the new CBA.
and this whole concept of "letting him go for nothing" is not always bad. if you're getting crap in return, then better to just let him walk and keep your cap space, which is very valuable as well when free agency hits. no need to take on what you don't want in a sign-n-trade. |
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| Posted: Wed Aug 27, 2014 9:48 am Post subject: |
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| K0BEE 2.0 wrote: | | Is Oct 1 the deadline to accept the QO? there is a lot of time to work on S&T scenarios.... I hope the Lakers are giving full effort in there attempt to appease the Suns.... I think it really depends if the Suns want Nash for one last reunion that is the only way I see the Lakers getting Bledsoe. |
So in order for your scenario to work, Bledsoe would have to agree to the extension. He's reportedly turned down $48m/4 years, so he thinks he's worth the max it seems. I highly doubt Lakers will offer the max, and Houston's 2015 1st and 2nd, and possibly future considerations.
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| Posted: Wed Aug 27, 2014 9:58 am Post subject: |
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| If both parties agree to a S&T then I'm guessing the most the Lakers can offer is 4 year/60M and that looks better then 4 yerars/48M.... like I said everything really depends if the doctors clear him and his health for the future then the game gets interesting.... only because I think the Suns aren't really worried about Bledsoe's health there just a cheap organization. |
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| Posted: Wed Aug 27, 2014 10:08 am Post subject: |
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| K0BEE 2.0 wrote: | | Is Oct 1 the deadline to accept the QO? there is a lot of time to work on S&T scenarios.... I hope the Lakers are giving full effort in there attempt to appease the Suns.... I think it really depends if the Suns want Nash for one last reunion that is the only way I see the Lakers getting Bledsoe. |
I doubt the Suns really give a damn about a "Nash reunion" to have him clog up 9 million. And Bledsoe isn't worth 4/60 at this point. Even 4/48 is kinda pushing it, seeing as how Lowry got the same contract while being more reliable. If the Lakers wouldn't offer Lowry more than 2 years, I doubt they'd give Bledsoe 4 at a larger rate per year. |
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What if Bledsoe refuses to sign the QO? He sits out and does not get paid? Are there other ramifications? For him or the Suns.
Is the Suns 4yr/48M even still on the table?
If I am assuming this correctly, Suns still own his rights, do not have to pay him and can patiently wait until the trade deadline for a deal they like comes along. And still maintain his rights next year because of Bledsoe's holdout.
I am sure the Suns want him on the court but where is the downside if he refuses to sign with them? Seems Bledsoe and his agent overplayed this hand.
Please correct me if I am wrong on the facts. |
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| Quote: | Adrian Wojnarowski @WojYahooNBA 18m
Clippers president and coach Doc Rivers' extension will be worth more than $50 million over five years, league sources tell Yahoo Sports. |
lol |
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| Posted: Wed Aug 27, 2014 10:36 am Post subject: |
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| K0BEE 2.0 wrote: | | I wonder why Bledsoe would even accept the qualifying offer.... |
Because he believes that he won't suffer a major injury next season. I'm assuming the Suns believe he won't suffer another major injury in the next 4 years since they offered him a $48M deal. |
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| yinoma2001 wrote: | | K0BEE 2.0 wrote: | | For his own sake.... he should wait until the Suns budge and give him the contract he desires... if he gets the QO then it's a big risk considering his questionable health. |
What's his leverage then? Not much. |
His leverage is walking for nothing next summer, which could put the Suns in position to lose he and Dragic for nothing next year. He has a higher risk than the Suns but he does have some leverage. |
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| Jim99187 wrote: | | Quote: | Adrian Wojnarowski @WojYahooNBA 18m
Clippers president and coach Doc Rivers' extension will be worth more than $50 million over five years, league sources tell Yahoo Sports. |
lol |
Billionaire Balmer isn't afraid to spend. |
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