Shaq Vs. Kobe

lakersfan22 · Posted: Tue Jul 23, 2013 11:34 am Post subject: Shaq Vs. Kobe

Who would you take in their prime for lets say 4 years?

I got Shaq.

Lakers95 · Posted: Tue Jul 23, 2013 11:36 am Post subject:

Kobe

inb4 I'm vilified as a "Kobe-first" fan.

Chronicle · Posted: Tue Jul 23, 2013 11:39 am Post subject:

offseason

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venturalakersfan · Posted: Tue Jul 23, 2013 11:40 am Post subject:

Shaq. No one in the league could slow him. Howard is the best defensive big and Shaq would dominate him.
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deal · Posted: Tue Jul 23, 2013 11:43 am Post subject:

Chronicle · Posted: Tue Jul 23, 2013 11:48 am Post subject:

venturalakersfan · Posted: Tue Jul 23, 2013 11:52 am Post subject:

Air Apparent · Star Player Joined: 17 Jul 2006 Posts: 5893

Op is a stealth anti Kobe troll

http://forums.lakersground.net/viewtopic.php?p=5333483&highlight=#5333483

But to answer your question i got Kobe.

Shaq in his prime needed a first team all nba superstar(kobe) to win titles, make clutch shots, be facilitator and defend opposing teams best perimeter player. Same in Miami, we saw him pretty much piggy back wade for a title.

Kobe proved he could win with great complimentary pieces. Gasol was great but he was all nba third team.

And why only 4 years? We've seen Kobe dominate in his prime a lot longer than 4 years.
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Lakers 4 eva · Posted: Tue Jul 23, 2013 12:02 pm Post subject:

This is how I will rank it.

Peak Prime - Shaq (Kobe was great but Shaq's peak was out of this world)

Longer Prime - Kobe

Edit: I voted Kobe btw

The Shadow King · Posted: Tue Jul 23, 2013 12:06 pm Post subject:

I hate polls like these. They just divide the fan base.

How about we keep both? I figure the two of them could win a few championships together. No?
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Artesties · Star Player Joined: 14 Jul 2009 Posts: 1115

Shaq was unstoppable.

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lakersfan22 · Posted: Tue Jul 23, 2013 12:10 pm Post subject:

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The Bean. W/o hesitation.

Ok maybe a small one lol

rang15 · Starting Rotation Joined: 15 Oct 2006 Posts: 245

100 times out of 100 I take Kobe's career, and when Dr. Buss had to choose between Shaq and Kobe I was in the Kobe camp.

But 4 years of his prime? Shaq. Truth is, only maybe 2-3 of those prime years were superior to any of Kobe's peak years, it's just that those 2-3 were so dominant that you have to take it.

When I think of how the 00-01 Lakers might stack up against (say) the 95-96 Bulls, I'm not even thinking about how Kobe would pick them apart or match up with Jordan or Pippen; I'm thinking about how Shaq would eviscerate Luc Longley.

faze · Starting Rotation Joined: 15 Apr 2008 Posts: 924

It's actually tougher than it looks. Shaq was the most unstoppable force we've seen in his prime, but he needs a true star wing player to close out games for him like most other bigs, but Shaq probably needs it more than other centers since his free throw % was so poor. Kobe's prime is severely undderated as well, since 3 of 4 or 5 of his true "prime" seasons were wasted on terrible teams. He's been so good for so long, we sort of lump his prime basically from 2001-2010, and he's still playing at an absurdly high level. People always say they'd rather have a big than a small if they were starting out, but I don't know if that's ever been true tbh, and is certainly not true in today's game.

How many championship calibur wing all-stars are there in the league at any one time? You need someone you can consistently rely on to score in the 4th, and I'd say there's probably 6-7 at the MOST in the league right now. IMO, it's easier to build around a great guard/point forward since you can basically surround him with defenders and shooters. It's easier to get a top 20(overall) big like Gasol to compliment a superstar wing then it is to get a top 20 wing player who you have to rely on to close games.
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Bodhi · Starting Rotation Joined: 05 Jul 2009 Posts: 758

For just 4 years? Shaq

For a career? Kobe

LakersDC · Star Player Joined: 11 Feb 2009 Posts: 1504

Shaq had a higher peak just because of genes and less players with comparable skill sets. Kobe has better longevity for sure, but more comparable players.

I voted Snaq.

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BROW GOAT 23 · Posted: Tue Jul 23, 2013 1:05 pm Post subject:

Kobe in his prime hands down, up, sideways in and out...

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angrypuppy · Retired Number Joined: 13 Apr 2001 Posts: 32754

Too bad Shaq's unquestioned prime lasted but one season, not four.

singlecamVTEC · Star Player Joined: 05 Feb 2009 Posts: 1473

Shaq..

C'mon now.. You'd dump Shaq the ball, he'd have 4 defenders trap in on him, he rises up for the monster jam. That was just ridiculous.

KingKobe20 · Posted: Tue Jul 23, 2013 1:42 pm Post subject:

Shaq was the most dominating force within 5-8 feet away from the basket.
Easily a 35 ,15, 3 type of guy on any given night.
-Only downfall is his free throws.

Kobe could drop 50,60,70, or even 80 on you on any given night.
Zero weaknesses on the basketball court from offense to defense.
-Only downfall is that while he is dropping 80 points all by his lonesome , his teammates might be in kobe watching mode. An that obviously isn't good for team cohesion and chemistry.

So I'm gonna go with Earvin Magic Johnson

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PassiontoWin · Posted: Tue Jul 23, 2013 1:48 pm Post subject: