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| lakerjoshua wrote: | I believe there is immense power in a name, a brand. The name "Trump" is his brand and it's as well known as Nike or Apple and gives him his power and prestige.
From this day forward I refuse to refer to him using his Trump brand. To me, he is just Donald. |
"The Donald" is just as famous. You are a great American for your continuous support of Making America Great Again. |
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Incredible sit-in by the House Democrats. They want a vote on gun control.
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| lakerjoshua wrote: | I believe there is immense power in a name, a brand. The name "Trump" is his brand and it's as well known as Nike or Apple and gives him his power and prestige.
From this day forward I refuse to refer to him using his Trump brand. To me, he is just Donald. |
Go with Drumpf.
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| 32 wrote: | Incredible sit-in by the House Democrats. They want a vote on gun control.
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Yep. Mentioned in the Orlando thread.
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| OX1947 wrote: | | lakerjoshua wrote: | I believe there is immense power in a name, a brand. The name "Trump" is his brand and it's as well known as Nike or Apple and gives him his power and prestige.
From this day forward I refuse to refer to him using his Trump brand. To me, he is just Donald. |
"The Donald" is just as famous. You are a great American for your continuous support of Making America Great Again. |
You're absolutely right. Donnie has a more snarky and insulting ring to it. I'll go with that. |
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| DaMuleRules wrote: | | lakerjoshua wrote: | I believe there is immense power in a name, a brand. The name "Trump" is his brand and it's as well known as Nike or Apple and gives him his power and prestige.
From this day forward I refuse to refer to him using his Trump brand. To me, he is just Donald. |
Go with Drumpf. |
Nah, too Bernie-ish.  |
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| lakerjoshua wrote: | | OX1947 wrote: | | lakerjoshua wrote: | I believe there is immense power in a name, a brand. The name "Trump" is his brand and it's as well known as Nike or Apple and gives him his power and prestige.
From this day forward I refuse to refer to him using his Trump brand. To me, he is just Donald. |
"The Donald" is just as famous. You are a great American for your continuous support of Making America Great Again. |
You're absolutely right. Donnie has a more snarky and insulting ring to it. I'll go with that. |
Don the Con. |
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| Looks like Brexit is going to Leave. Historic vote. |
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Look at the market ... thank you BREXIT!
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| Quote: | (Reuters) - Democratic presidential contender Hillary Clinton regained a double-digit lead over Republican rival Donald Trump this week, according to a Reuters/Ipsos poll released on Friday.
The June 20-24 poll showed that 46.6 percent of likely American voters supported Clinton while 33.3 percent supported Trump. Another 20.1 percent said they would support neither candidate. |
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| KobeRe-Loaded wrote: | | Look at the market ... thank you BREXIT! |
And if Trump gets elected, expect the American version of tanking the world economy except worse. |
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| This is why you don't waste your vote as a "protest vote" (or stay home to "protest") and presume the outcome will be okay. There are people who voted to leave the EU as a "protest" but they didn't really believe it would happen. There are millions of people who didn't vote, because they didn't believe it mattered or that GB would really leave the EU. However, just enough angry/fearful people showed up to "protest vote" without really thinking through the real-world consequences, and in doing so just upset the world economy for years to come and likely harmed themselves more than if the status quo had remained. Now picture that happening in the U.S. and multiply the world consequences by several orders of magnitude. |
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| ChefLinda wrote: | | This is why you don't waste your vote as a "protest vote" (or stay home to "protest") and presume the outcome will be okay. There are people who voted to leave the EU as a "protest" but they didn't really believe it would happen. There are millions of people who didn't vote, because they didn't believe it mattered or that GB would really leave the EU. However, just enough angry/fearful people showed up to "protest vote" without really thinking through the real-world consequences, and in doing so just upset the world economy for years to come and likely harmed themselves more than if the status quo had remained. Now picture that happening in the U.S. and multiply the world consequences by several orders of magnitude. |
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| DaMuleRules wrote: | | ChefLinda wrote: | | This is why you don't waste your vote as a "protest vote" (or stay home to "protest") and presume the outcome will be okay. There are people who voted to leave the EU as a "protest" but they didn't really believe it would happen. There are millions of people who didn't vote, because they didn't believe it mattered or that GB would really leave the EU. However, just enough angry/fearful people showed up to "protest vote" without really thinking through the real-world consequences, and in doing so just upset the world economy for years to come and likely harmed themselves more than if the status quo had remained. Now picture that happening in the U.S. and multiply the world consequences by several orders of magnitude. |
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| ChefLinda wrote: | | This is why you don't waste your vote as a "protest vote" (or stay home to "protest") and presume the outcome will be okay. There are people who voted to leave the EU as a "protest" but they didn't really believe it would happen. There are millions of people who didn't vote, because they didn't believe it mattered or that GB would really leave the EU. However, just enough angry/fearful people showed up to "protest vote" without really thinking through the real-world consequences, and in doing so just upset the world economy for years to come and likely harmed themselves more than if the status quo had remained. Now picture that happening in the U.S. and multiply the world consequences by several orders of magnitude. |
Agree. Voters cannot assume this time that Trump won't get elected and Brexit reinforces that concept.
But Clinton should not assume either. She is viewed as the lesser of two evils by most, and it's just that the other evil is so awful, legendarily historically so, that of those two specific options she is the preferable choice. But she should give some policy changing thought as to why such an awful legendarily horrible person has gathered so much support, and why she has such a hard time gathering support from everyone given such an awful opponent. A small part is sexism I believe, but she should really look to her policies. It's not a messaging issue. |
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| focus wrote: | | ChefLinda wrote: | | This is why you don't waste your vote as a "protest vote" (or stay home to "protest") and presume the outcome will be okay. There are people who voted to leave the EU as a "protest" but they didn't really believe it would happen. There are millions of people who didn't vote, because they didn't believe it mattered or that GB would really leave the EU. However, just enough angry/fearful people showed up to "protest vote" without really thinking through the real-world consequences, and in doing so just upset the world economy for years to come and likely harmed themselves more than if the status quo had remained. Now picture that happening in the U.S. and multiply the world consequences by several orders of magnitude. |
Agree. Voters cannot assume this time that Trump won't get elected and Brexit reinforces that concept.
But Clinton should not assume either. She is viewed as the lesser of two evils by most, and it's just that the other evil is so awful, legendarily historically so, that of those two specific options she is the preferable choice. But she should give some policy changing thought as to why such an awful legendarily horrible person has gathered so much support, and why she has such a hard time gathering support from everyone given such an awful opponent. A small part is sexism I believe, but she should really look to her policies. It's not a messaging issue. |
HRC has the majority support of every demographic except white males. How do you suggest she change that? That's not going to change no matter what policy she presents, what tone of voice she takes, or whether she appoints a white male VP. It's not happening. At this point, the Dem party as a whole doesn't have the majority support of white males. Obama lost them, as did Kerry and Gore. A lot of women love her. Women of color especially love. She has the majority support of Blacks, Latinos, Asians and LGBT. And believe it or not, and contrary to what the media talking heads would have you believe, she has the majority support of Millennials. So there you go. But the white-male dominated media can just keep repeating how "horrible" and "evil" and "unappealing" she is. In fact, the people who support her find that incredibly insulting -- and motivating. Should she be motivating her base to come out and vote? Or keep trying to please the people who will never vote for her?
She earned more votes in the primaries than any other candidate on either side. Do you think if a male candidate were in that position people would be questioning whether they had adequate "support?"
Just something to ponder. |
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| ChefLinda wrote: | | focus wrote: | | ChefLinda wrote: | | This is why you don't waste your vote as a "protest vote" (or stay home to "protest") and presume the outcome will be okay. There are people who voted to leave the EU as a "protest" but they didn't really believe it would happen. There are millions of people who didn't vote, because they didn't believe it mattered or that GB would really leave the EU. However, just enough angry/fearful people showed up to "protest vote" without really thinking through the real-world consequences, and in doing so just upset the world economy for years to come and likely harmed themselves more than if the status quo had remained. Now picture that happening in the U.S. and multiply the world consequences by several orders of magnitude. |
Agree. Voters cannot assume this time that Trump won't get elected and Brexit reinforces that concept.
But Clinton should not assume either. She is viewed as the lesser of two evils by most, and it's just that the other evil is so awful, legendarily historically so, that of those two specific options she is the preferable choice. But she should give some policy changing thought as to why such an awful legendarily horrible person has gathered so much support, and why she has such a hard time gathering support from everyone given such an awful opponent. A small part is sexism I believe, but she should really look to her policies. It's not a messaging issue. |
HRC has the majority support of every demographic except white males. How do you suggest she change that? That's not going to change no matter what policy she presents, what tone of voice she takes, or whether she appoints a white male VP. It's not happening. At this point, the Dem party as a whole doesn't have the majority support of white males. Obama lost them, as did Kerry and Gore. A lot of women love her. Women of color especially love. She has the majority support of Blacks, Latinos, Asians and LGBT. And believe it or not, and contrary to what the media talking heads would have you believe, she has the majority support of Millennials. So there you go. But the white-male dominated media can just keep repeating how "horrible" and "evil" and "unappealing" she is. In fact, the people who support her find that incredibly insulting -- and motivating. Should she be motivating her base to come out and vote? Or keep trying to please the people who will never vote for her?
She earned more votes in the primaries than any other candidate on either side. Do you think if a male candidate were in that position people would be questioning whether they had adequate "support?"
Just something to ponder. |
I think he was referring to her historically low favorability rating |
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Could Mr Donald Trump use Hillarys big funding against her?
"Look who is in the pockets of the mega corporations paying for your slavery...bla bla offshoring .. she is bought and paid for can't you see" .. I forgot "and don't forget to buy shares in Trump Fence..hooray MAGA |
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| Ted wrote: | | ChefLinda wrote: | | focus wrote: | | ChefLinda wrote: | | This is why you don't waste your vote as a "protest vote" (or stay home to "protest") and presume the outcome will be okay. There are people who voted to leave the EU as a "protest" but they didn't really believe it would happen. There are millions of people who didn't vote, because they didn't believe it mattered or that GB would really leave the EU. However, just enough angry/fearful people showed up to "protest vote" without really thinking through the real-world consequences, and in doing so just upset the world economy for years to come and likely harmed themselves more than if the status quo had remained. Now picture that happening in the U.S. and multiply the world consequences by several orders of magnitude. |
Agree. Voters cannot assume this time that Trump won't get elected and Brexit reinforces that concept.
But Clinton should not assume either. She is viewed as the lesser of two evils by most, and it's just that the other evil is so awful, legendarily historically so, that of those two specific options she is the preferable choice. But she should give some policy changing thought as to why such an awful legendarily horrible person has gathered so much support, and why she has such a hard time gathering support from everyone given such an awful opponent. A small part is sexism I believe, but she should really look to her policies. It's not a messaging issue. |
HRC has the majority support of every demographic except white males. How do you suggest she change that? That's not going to change no matter what policy she presents, what tone of voice she takes, or whether she appoints a white male VP. It's not happening. At this point, the Dem party as a whole doesn't have the majority support of white males. Obama lost them, as did Kerry and Gore. A lot of women love her. Women of color especially love. She has the majority support of Blacks, Latinos, Asians and LGBT. And believe it or not, and contrary to what the media talking heads would have you believe, she has the majority support of Millennials. So there you go. But the white-male dominated media can just keep repeating how "horrible" and "evil" and "unappealing" she is. In fact, the people who support her find that incredibly insulting -- and motivating. Should she be motivating her base to come out and vote? Or keep trying to please the people who will never vote for her?
She earned more votes in the primaries than any other candidate on either side. Do you think if a male candidate were in that position people would be questioning whether they had adequate "support?"
Just something to ponder. |
I think he was referring to her historically low favorability rating |
You mean after taking incoming fire from right-wing media, main stream media, GOP bogus investigations, crazy internet rumors, Bernie Sanders, 20 GOP presidential contenders and Donald Trump? Gee, I'm shocked that her favorability which was quite high 2 years ago has taken a hit. She's still standing though, and will probably be the first female president. She had to be twice as good, twice as calm, twice as smart, and twice as tough to survive that gauntlet. |
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Seems as though some think Hillary is a sure winner.
Food for thought. Arnold Schwarzenegger, George W Bush, reelected. Whoda thunk it?:
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| jodeke wrote: | Seems as though some think Hillary is a sure winner.
Food for thought. Arnold Schwarzenegger, George W Bush, reelected. Whoda thunk it?: |
Don't mistake my defense of HRC as over-confidence in the election result. Everyone needs to vote. |
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| jodeke wrote: | Seems as though some think Hillary is a sure winner.
Food for thought. Arnold Schwarzenegger, George W Bush, reelected. Whoda thunk it?: |
That's apples to oranges. When it comes to the Presidency and the California Governor's office, incumbents from both parties have fared pretty well in the last half century or so. There's no incumbent in this race.
Not to say that pointing that out expresses any confidence in Hilary's success.
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| ChefLinda wrote: | | jodeke wrote: | Seems as though some think Hillary is a sure winner.
Food for thought. Arnold Schwarzenegger, George W Bush, reelected. Whoda thunk it?: |
Don't mistake my defense of HRC as over-confidence in the election result. Everyone needs to vote. |
I feel same. Point is not many thought either would be reelected because of how they handled their first term.
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| DaMuleRules wrote: | | jodeke wrote: | Seems as though some think Hillary is a sure winner.
Food for thought. Arnold Schwarzenegger, George W Bush, reelected. Whoda thunk it?: |
That's apples to oranges. When it comes to the Presidency and the California Governor's office, incumbents from both parties have fared pretty well in the last half century or so. There's no incumbent in this race.
Not to say that pointing that out expresses any confidence in Hilary's success. |
Point is not many thought either would be reelected because of how they handled their first term.
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| Quote: | Trump shifts immigration plan: No 'mass deportations'
Presumptive Republican nominee Donald Trump appeared to soften his tone on immigration Saturday, saying he wouldn't issue mass deportations if president.
"President Obama has mass deported vast numbers of people — the most ever, and it's never reported. I think people are going to find that I have not only the best policies, but I will have the biggest heart of anybody," Trump said in an interview with Bloomberg Politics Saturday.
Pressed on whether he would issue mass deportations as he has called for in the past, Trump said: "No, I would not call it mass deportations."
"We are going to get rid of a lot of bad dudes who are here. That I can tell you," Trump said.
Throughout his campaign, Trump has promised to build a wall between the U.S. and Mexican border and deport all 11 million people living in the country illegally.
In November, shortly after he launched his presidential campaign, Trump said he would build a "deportation force" to ship those in the country illegally back to their home countries. |
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