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| vanexelent wrote: | | angrypuppy wrote: |
As much as I detest Trump, this is just crazy speculation. Trump strives to affix his name to luxury. His brands aim high, targeting the clueless middle class wannabes who want to look upper-middle class or rich. It's an aspirational brand, for folks who want to look like they have arrived. That segment does have some money, and he'll likely lose that segment if he rebrands himself as champion of the white nationalist segment. Those folks have little disposable income, and aren't likely to spend money on Trump neckties, Trump cufflinks, Trump watches, Trump vodka and all the other third-rate crap that Trump vends. The closest Trump ever got to screwing the Great Unwashed was Trump University, and that was neither sustainable nor all that lucrative.
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The only place I've ever seen these items sold are at TJ Maxx, Ross and Burlington Coat Factory; exactly the places they would shop. |
Not necessarily, they're in other dept stores like Macy's, JC Penney and Sears too. Still refuse to buy them
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| Quote: | In one of the most important elections of our lifetime, in one of the most important counties in the state, the Donald Trump campaign is relying on 12-year-old Weston Imer" as its field coordinator.
Imer is apparently calling many of the shots in Colorado's Jefferson County Trump campaign — one ostensibly responsible for running events and get-out-the-vote operations in for a region that includes part of metro Denver and over half a million inhabitants. |
12 Year Old Running A Trump Field Office
Sounds about par for the course. 
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| Aussiesuede wrote: | | Quote: | In one of the most important elections of our lifetime, in one of the most important counties in the state, the Donald Trump campaign is relying on 12-year-old Weston Imer" as its field coordinator.
Imer is apparently calling many of the shots in Colorado's Jefferson County Trump campaign — one ostensibly responsible for running events and get-out-the-vote operations in for a region that includes part of metro Denver and over half a million inhabitants. |
12 Year Old Running A Trump Field Office
Sounds about par for the course. |
I think he has a few years edge on the mental age of the majority of his voting base.
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| Quote: | Hillary Clinton’s 15,000 New Emails to Get Timetable for Release
WASHINGTON — The dispute over Hillary Clinton’s email practices now threatens to shadow her for the rest of the presidential campaign after the disclosure on Monday that the F.B.I. collected nearly 15,000 new emails in its investigation of her and a federal judge’s order that the State Department accelerate the documents’ release.
As a result, thousands of emails that Mrs. Clinton did not voluntarily turn over to the State Department last year could be released just weeks before the election in November. The order, by Judge James E. Boasberg of Federal District Court, came the same day a conservative watchdog group separately released hundreds of emails from one of Mrs. Clinton’s closest aides, Huma Abedin, which put a new focus on the sometimes awkward ties between the Clinton Foundation and the State Department.
The F.B.I. discovered the roughly 14,900 emails by scouring Mrs. Clinton’s server and the computer archives of government officials with whom she corresponded. In late July, it turned them over to the State Department, which now must set a timetable for their release, according to Judge Boasberg’s order.
While the emails were not in the original trove of 55,000 pages that Mrs. Clinton’s lawyers handed to the State Department last year, the F.B.I. director, James B. Comey, said in July that he did not believe they had been “intentionally deleted.” Still, he characterized Mrs. Clinton’s handling of classified information during her years at the State Department as “extremely careless.”
http://www.nytimes.com/2016/08/23/us/politics/hillary-clintons-new-emails-release-state-department.html |
| Quote: | Emails reveal how foundation donors got access to Clinton and her close aides at State Dept.
A sports executive who was a major donor to the Clinton Foundation and whose firm paid Bill Clinton millions of dollars in consulting fees wanted help getting a visa for a British soccer player with a criminal past.
The crown prince of Bahrain, whose government gave more than $50,000 to the Clintons’ charity and who participated in its glitzy annual conference, wanted a last-minute meeting with Secretary of State Hillary Clinton.
U2 rocker and philanthropist Bono, also a regular at foundation events, wanted high-level help broadcasting a live link to the International Space Station during concerts.
In each case, according to emails released Monday from Hillary Clinton’s time as secretary of state, the requests were directed to Clinton’s deputy chief of staff and confidante, Huma Abedin, who engaged with other top aides and sometimes Clinton herself about how to respond.
The emails show that, in these and similar cases, the donors did not always get what they wanted, particularly when they sought anything more than a meeting.
But the exchanges, among 725 pages of correspondence from Abedin disclosed as part of a lawsuit by the conservative group Judicial Watch, illustrate the way the Clintons’ international network of friends and donors was able to get access to Hillary Clinton and her inner circle during her tenure running the State Department.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/emails-reveal-how-foundation-donors-got-access-to-clinton-and-her-close-aides-at-state-dept/2016/08/22/345b5200-6882-11e6-8225-fbb8a6fc65bc_story.html |
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| Quote: | | James B. Comey, said in July that he did not believe they had been “intentionally deleted. |
| Quote: | The emails show that, in these and similar cases, the donors did not always get what they wanted, particularly when they sought anything more than a meeting.
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The corporate media (owned by the 1%) wants a horse race so they can make more money. Expect them to focus on this kind of side issue instead of income inequality, voting rights, the environment, healthcare, jobs etc. If you were for Bernie or his issues and you help the 1% propagate their distractions, you're helping the 1%, not the 99%.
Since no one else posted it, yesterday Bill Clinton said he would step down from head of his foundation if Hillary is elected and they'll basically put the foundation in some kind of trust. They released all their taxes, all the Clinton Foundation financials and HRC turned over her server.
There's no smoking gun in the emails. It's the usual political stuff you'd find in ANY politician's emails if they were forced to turn them over then have the FBI, NY Times and every political enemy in the world pouring over them with a fine tooth comb. Just saying EMAILS over and over again doesn't make it a scandal.
She said she made a mistake with the server (even though Colin Powell used private email and advised her to do the same on non-classified communications) and apologized. The Clinton Foundation won't take foreign donations going forward, Bill Clinton will step down. I don't know what else people expect them to do.
There's a reason Bernie said he didn't give a damn about Hillary's emails. Because he knew it was a distraction from the real issues.
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| governator wrote: | | vanexelent wrote: | | angrypuppy wrote: |
As much as I detest Trump, this is just crazy speculation. Trump strives to affix his name to luxury. His brands aim high, targeting the clueless middle class wannabes who want to look upper-middle class or rich. It's an aspirational brand, for folks who want to look like they have arrived. That segment does have some money, and he'll likely lose that segment if he rebrands himself as champion of the white nationalist segment. Those folks have little disposable income, and aren't likely to spend money on Trump neckties, Trump cufflinks, Trump watches, Trump vodka and all the other third-rate crap that Trump vends. The closest Trump ever got to screwing the Great Unwashed was Trump University, and that was neither sustainable nor all that lucrative.
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The only place I've ever seen these items sold are at TJ Maxx, Ross and Burlington Coat Factory; exactly the places they would shop. |
Not necessarily, they're in other dept stores like Macy's, JC Penney and Sears too. Still refuse to buy them |
And those 3 stores are on their last legs. Like many of Trump's own businesses, they'll be filing for Chapter 11 soon. |
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Hillary's new TV Ad let's Donald Do the Talking:
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| DuncanIdaho wrote: | | Quote: | Hillary Clinton’s 15,000 New Emails to Get Timetable for Release
WASHINGTON — The dispute over Hillary Clinton’s email practices now threatens to shadow her for the rest of the presidential campaign after the disclosure on Monday that the F.B.I. collected nearly 15,000 new emails in its investigation of her and a federal judge’s order that the State Department accelerate the documents’ release.
As a result, thousands of emails that Mrs. Clinton did not voluntarily turn over to the State Department last year could be released just weeks before the election in November. The order, by Judge James E. Boasberg of Federal District Court, came the same day a conservative watchdog group separately released hundreds of emails from one of Mrs. Clinton’s closest aides, Huma Abedin, which put a new focus on the sometimes awkward ties between the Clinton Foundation and the State Department.
The F.B.I. discovered the roughly 14,900 emails by scouring Mrs. Clinton’s server and the computer archives of government officials with whom she corresponded. In late July, it turned them over to the State Department, which now must set a timetable for their release, according to Judge Boasberg’s order.
While the emails were not in the original trove of 55,000 pages that Mrs. Clinton’s lawyers handed to the State Department last year, the F.B.I. director, James B. Comey, said in July that he did not believe they had been “intentionally deleted.” Still, he characterized Mrs. Clinton’s handling of classified information during her years at the State Department as “extremely careless.”
http://www.nytimes.com/2016/08/23/us/politics/hillary-clintons-new-emails-release-state-department.html |
| Quote: | Emails reveal how foundation donors got access to Clinton and her close aides at State Dept.
A sports executive who was a major donor to the Clinton Foundation and whose firm paid Bill Clinton millions of dollars in consulting fees wanted help getting a visa for a British soccer player with a criminal past.
The crown prince of Bahrain, whose government gave more than $50,000 to the Clintons’ charity and who participated in its glitzy annual conference, wanted a last-minute meeting with Secretary of State Hillary Clinton.
U2 rocker and philanthropist Bono, also a regular at foundation events, wanted high-level help broadcasting a live link to the International Space Station during concerts.
In each case, according to emails released Monday from Hillary Clinton’s time as secretary of state, the requests were directed to Clinton’s deputy chief of staff and confidante, Huma Abedin, who engaged with other top aides and sometimes Clinton herself about how to respond.
The emails show that, in these and similar cases, the donors did not always get what they wanted, particularly when they sought anything more than a meeting.
But the exchanges, among 725 pages of correspondence from Abedin disclosed as part of a lawsuit by the conservative group Judicial Watch, illustrate the way the Clintons’ international network of friends and donors was able to get access to Hillary Clinton and her inner circle during her tenure running the State Department.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/emails-reveal-how-foundation-donors-got-access-to-clinton-and-her-close-aides-at-state-dept/2016/08/22/345b5200-6882-11e6-8225-fbb8a6fc65bc_story.html |
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Clinton Foundation=Access for the rich donors to get a word with a powerful politician. |
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I've been around long enough to know that ALL POLITICIANS are crooked to a degree.
Show me evidence Hillary's qualified to lead the country. Show me evidence Trump's qualified to lead the country.
IMO Trump is a snake oil salesman. Hillary is a politician who did something most do, only she got caught (Bill Belichick). Hope she can win like him.
Trump's business endeavors don't cause me to believe he's qualified to lead the country. I'd bomb the hell out of them. Tell the to go F..themselves move me pass The Donald.
Hillary's foundation is doing a great job world wide.
I'm looking pass the attacks. I'm looking to see who's best qualified.
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| DuncanIdaho wrote: | | Thanks for editing my post and adding bolds without noting it. Appreciate that. |
Huh? She pulled out two relevant quotes to her argument and addressed them, and to be fair, didn't even list them as posted by you.
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When The Donald point to the crowd and said "There's my African American over there" it came out to my crew as "There's my N over there"
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| Omar Little wrote: | | DuncanIdaho wrote: | | Thanks for editing my post and adding bolds without noting it. Appreciate that. |
Huh? She pulled out two relevant quotes to her argument and addressed them, and to be fair, didn't even list them as posted by you. |
My post was edited and portions were bolded (I didn't do that). It's back to how I posted it now. She pulled the bold quotes into her post now.
I don't care it just seemed weird since I didn't post it that way. |
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Maybe she accidentally clicked edit instead of quote. 
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http://www.cnn.com/2016/08/23/politics/trump-tower-rent/index.html
Campaign defends paying steep rent increase at Trump Tower
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I would think its a conflict of interest to use your own things for public funded campaign. Money in your own pocket.
Awesome thing is he didn't really add new staff. Just add more space. Sounds legit to me.
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| Fallout wrote: | http://www.cnn.com/2016/08/23/politics/trump-tower-rent/index.html
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I would think its a conflict of interest to use your own things for public funded campaign. Money in your own pocket.
Awesome thing is he didn't really add new staff. Just add more space. Sounds legit to me. |
You can only edit your own posts. There's no edit option on someone else's post.
(or Can you???, why else would I call myself a porn addled geezer?)
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ChefLinda is a moderator, jodeke. She can edit your posts. Without the ability to edit and delete posts, moderators would be useless. 
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| Wilt wrote: | | ChefLinda is a moderator, jodeke. She can edit your posts. Without the ability to edit and delete posts, moderators would be useless. |
OK, I didn't know he was talking about CL. I don't think CL would do that. She may have done as you say. My bad.....
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| jodeke wrote: | | Wilt wrote: | | ChefLinda is a moderator, jodeke. She can edit your posts. Without the ability to edit and delete posts, moderators would be useless. |
OK, I didn't know he was talking about CL. I don't think CL would do that. She may have done as you say. My bad..... |
Just giving you a hard time. 
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| jodeke wrote: | | Wilt wrote: | | ChefLinda is a moderator, jodeke. She can edit your posts. Without the ability to edit and delete posts, moderators would be useless. |
OK, I didn't know he was talking about CL. I don't think CL would do that. She may have done as you say. My bad..... |
This is what he was referencing. He didn't originally bold the red. No biggie. She fixed her error:
| DuncanIdaho wrote: | Hillary Clinton’s 15,000 New Emails to Get Timetable for Release
WASHINGTON — The dispute over Hillary Clinton’s email practices now threatens to shadow her for the rest of the presidential campaign after the disclosure on Monday that the F.B.I. collected nearly 15,000 new emails in its investigation of her and a federal judge’s order that the State Department accelerate the documents’ release.
As a result, thousands of emails that Mrs. Clinton did not voluntarily turn over to the State Department last year could be released just weeks before the election in November. The order, by Judge James E. Boasberg of Federal District Court, came the same day a conservative watchdog group separately released hundreds of emails from one of Mrs. Clinton’s closest aides, Huma Abedin, which put a new focus on the sometimes awkward ties between the Clinton Foundation and the State Department.
The F.B.I. discovered the roughly 14,900 emails by scouring Mrs. Clinton’s server and the computer archives of government officials with whom she corresponded. In late July, it turned them over to the State Department, which now must set a timetable for their release, according to Judge Boasberg’s order.
While the emails were not in the original trove of 55,000 pages that Mrs. Clinton’s lawyers handed to the State Department last year, the F.B.I. director, James B. Comey, said in July that he did not believe they had been “intentionally deleted.” Still, he characterized Mrs. Clinton’s handling of classified information during her years at the State Department as “extremely careless.”
http://www.nytimes.com/2016/08/23/us/politics/hillary-clintons-new-emails-release-state-department.html |
| DuncanIdaho wrote: | Emails reveal how foundation donors got access to Clinton and her close aides at State Dept.
A sports executive who was a major donor to the Clinton Foundation and whose firm paid Bill Clinton millions of dollars in consulting fees wanted help getting a visa for a British soccer player with a criminal past.
The crown prince of Bahrain, whose government gave more than $50,000 to the Clintons’ charity and who participated in its glitzy annual conference, wanted a last-minute meeting with Secretary of State Hillary Clinton.
U2 rocker and philanthropist Bono, also a regular at foundation events, wanted high-level help broadcasting a live link to the International Space Station during concerts.
In each case, according to emails released Monday from Hillary Clinton’s time as secretary of state, the requests were directed to Clinton’s deputy chief of staff and confidante, Huma Abedin, who engaged with other top aides and sometimes Clinton herself about how to respond.
The emails show that, in these and similar cases, the donors did not always get what they wanted, particularly when they sought anything more than a meeting.
But the exchanges, among 725 pages of correspondence from Abedin disclosed as part of a lawsuit by the conservative group Judicial Watch, illustrate the way the Clintons’ international network of friends and donors was able to get access to Hillary Clinton and her inner circle during her tenure running the State Department. |
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| DuncanIdaho wrote: | | Omar Little wrote: | | DuncanIdaho wrote: | | Thanks for editing my post and adding bolds without noting it. Appreciate that. |
Huh? She pulled out two relevant quotes to her argument and addressed them, and to be fair, didn't even list them as posted by you. |
My post was edited and portions were bolded (I didn't do that). It's back to how I posted it now. She pulled the bold quotes into her post now.
I don't care it just seemed weird since I didn't post it that way. |
Ah, I missed the interim step, which was why I didn't understand your issue. My guess is she accidentally hit edit instead of quote. Hope it is all fixed.
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| Wilt wrote: | | jodeke wrote: | | Wilt wrote: | | ChefLinda is a moderator, jodeke. She can edit your posts. Without the ability to edit and delete posts, moderators would be useless. |
OK, I didn't know he was talking about CL. I don't think CL would do that. She may have done as you say. My bad..... |
Just giving you a hard time. |
Be careful. It's been a decade since he had a hard time...
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| Omar Little wrote: | | DuncanIdaho wrote: | | Omar Little wrote: | | DuncanIdaho wrote: | | Thanks for editing my post and adding bolds without noting it. Appreciate that. |
Huh? She pulled out two relevant quotes to her argument and addressed them, and to be fair, didn't even list them as posted by you. |
My post was edited and portions were bolded (I didn't do that). It's back to how I posted it now. She pulled the bold quotes into her post now.
I don't care it just seemed weird since I didn't post it that way. |
Ah, I missed the interim step, which was why I didn't understand your issue. My guess is she accidentally hit edit instead of quote. Hope it is all fixed. |
Yup. Sorry about that. |
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