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This is difficult to believe, execution by firing squad anti ai craft gun.
If this is true Kim Jong Un is a dangerous unstable man.
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This is difficult to believe, execution by firing squad anti ai craft gun.
If this is true Kim Jong Un is a dangerous unstable man. |
Uh, i wouldn't think youd need this to make that already quite clear. |
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jodeke
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| 24 wrote: | | jodeke wrote: | LINK
This is difficult to believe, execution by firing squad anti ai craft gun.
If this is true Kim Jong Un is a dangerous unstable man. |
Uh, i wouldn't think youd need this to make that already quite clear. |
I know he's unstable and dangerous. It's just the weapon used to execute Hyon Yong Chol is unbelievable even for him.
| Quote: | | Hyon Yong Chol, who heads the isolated country's military, was purged and then executed by firing squad with an antiaircraft gun, watched by hundreds of people, South Korean media reported on Wednesday, citing the NIS's comments to a parliamentary panel. |
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Sounds like he's a kid in a candy store, full of weapons to do his bidding.
In other words, a brat. |
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| In other news, absolute power continues to corrupt absolutely ... |
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Omar Little
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| jodeke wrote: | | 24 wrote: | | jodeke wrote: | LINK
This is difficult to believe, execution by firing squad anti ai craft gun.
If this is true Kim Jong Un is a dangerous unstable man. |
Uh, i wouldn't think youd need this to make that already quite clear. |
I know he's unstable and dangerous. It's just the weapon used to execute Hyon Yong Chol is unbelievable even for him.
| Quote: | | Hyon Yong Chol, who heads the isolated country's military, was purged and then executed by firing squad with an antiaircraft gun, watched by hundreds of people, South Korean media reported on Wednesday, citing the NIS's comments to a parliamentary panel. |
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Someone is probably going to take a little flak for that... |
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| jodeke wrote: | LINK
This is difficult to believe, execution by firing squad anti ai craft gun.
If this is true Kim Jong Un is a dangerous unstable man. |
The Kim family's method for getting rid of their employees would make even Donald Trump jealous. |
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| 24 wrote: | | jodeke wrote: | | 24 wrote: | | jodeke wrote: | LINK
This is difficult to believe, execution by firing squad anti ai craft gun.
If this is true Kim Jong Un is a dangerous unstable man. |
Uh, i wouldn't think youd need this to make that already quite clear. |
I know he's unstable and dangerous. It's just the weapon used to execute Hyon Yong Chol is unbelievable even for him.
| Quote: | | Hyon Yong Chol, who heads the isolated country's military, was purged and then executed by firing squad with an antiaircraft gun, watched by hundreds of people, South Korean media reported on Wednesday, citing the NIS's comments to a parliamentary panel. |
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Someone is probably going to take a little flak for that... |
Sheesh, Dear Leader sure is unforgiving; the guy is all torn up over his treacherous mistakes, isn't that enough punishment?
Too soon?
(I'll do better next time, promise ...) |
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| Talk about blowing something out of proportion |
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 Dead is dead. That AA likely provided him with a milleseconds quicker death. It would seem to be more horrific for the creepies who watched than for the victim. Again, If the end result is death, matters little how it happens since the greatest trauma is the remembering of a gruesome experience. Dead people don't have to deal with that. If you really think about it, having a nuke dropped on you would be preferable to getting stabbed to death.
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| Note from mod: LEARN HOW TO POST A LINK WITHOUT STRETCHING THE THREAD. |
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| The above is a quick overview from Stewart on how we effed ourselves in the Middle East and how we still haven't learned. |
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| mhan00 wrote: | | The above is a quick overview from Stewart on how we effed ourselves in the Middle East and how we still haven't learned. |
When I watched that originally, I had a bit of a disagreement with Stewart. Leaving Iraq, as he did state, was due to the SOFA Bush signed, but he seems to assume that Obama could have actually signed another ("Obama's decision to pull the troops out of Iraq"), with the same guarantees to our troops as the 2008 SOFA. I don't know if Obama actually had such a choice. While I think it is possible, that is, if the US bribed the Iraqi Parliament and Maliki with more money or trips to Disneyland or whatever, it was not probable since the Iraqi people were against US troops in Iraq, and many, if not most, in the Iraqi Parliament were set against this, and certainly against the immunity the US demanded.
http://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2014/06/no-obama-didnt-lose-iraq-107874.html
http://world.time.com/2011/10/21/iraq-not-obama-called-time-on-the-u-s-troop-presence/
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| ribeye wrote: | | mhan00 wrote: | | The above is a quick overview from Stewart on how we effed ourselves in the Middle East and how we still haven't learned. |
When I watched that originally, I had a bit of a disagreement with Stewart. Leaving Iraq, as he did state, was due to the SOFA Bush signed, but he seems to assume that Obama could have actually signed another ("Obama's decision to pull the troops out of Iraq"), with the same guarantees to our troops as the 2008 SOFA. I don't know if Obama actually had such a choice. While I think it is possible, that is, if the US bribed the Iraqi Parliament and Maliki with more money or trips to Disneyland or whatever, it was not probable since the Iraqi people were against US troops in Iraq, and many, if not most, in the Iraqi Parliament were set against this, and certainly against the immunity the US demanded.
http://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2014/06/no-obama-didnt-lose-iraq-107874.html
http://world.time.com/2011/10/21/iraq-not-obama-called-time-on-the-u-s-troop-presence/ |
I watched it, too. And as I was watching it, I also thought it could have been a lot better.
I wish he had explained that even the notion of "victory" in Iraq is so arbitrary and ultimately meaningless.
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| ribeye wrote: | | mhan00 wrote: | | The above is a quick overview from Stewart on how we effed ourselves in the Middle East and how we still haven't learned. |
When I watched that originally, I had a bit of a disagreement with Stewart. Leaving Iraq, as he did state, was due to the SOFA Bush signed, but he seems to assume that Obama could have actually signed another ("Obama's decision to pull the troops out of Iraq"), with the same guarantees to our troops as the 2008 SOFA. I don't know if Obama actually had such a choice. While I think it is possible, that is, if the US bribed the Iraqi Parliament and Maliki with more money or trips to Disneyland or whatever, it was not probable since the Iraqi people were against US troops in Iraq, and many, if not most, in the Iraqi Parliament were set against this, and certainly against the immunity the US demanded.
http://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2014/06/no-obama-didnt-lose-iraq-107874.html
http://world.time.com/2011/10/21/iraq-not-obama-called-time-on-the-u-s-troop-presence/ |
I really agreed with and liked this whole article. Very concise and yet thoroughly detailed account of how oil corps were the reason and will now forever be there. What is it about our DNA that can destroy a whole country just for oil money
Why the war in Iraq was fought for Big Oil
By Antonia Juhasz, Special to CNN
Updated 7:42 AM ET, Mon April 15,
| Quote: | | "Of course it's about oil; we can't really deny that," said Gen. John Abizaid, former head of U.S. Central Command and Military Operations in Iraq, in 2007. Former Federal Reserve Chairman Alan Greenspan agreed, writing in his memoir, "I am saddened that it is politically inconvenient to acknowledge what everyone knows: the Iraq war is largely about oil." Then-Sen. and now Defense Secretary Chuck Hagel said the same in 2007: "People say we're not fighting for oil. Of course we are." |
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Cruz super PAC's plan to win presidency
| Quote: | Washington (CNN)The $38 million super PAC supporting Ted Cruz plans to highlight polarizing issues as part of a full-throttle plan to turn out the white evangelical voters that can power him to victory, a new document reveals.
Keep the Promise, whose strategy is detailed in a 51-slide PowerPoint presentation titled "Can He Win?" recently posted to the organization's website, mercilessly attacks 2012 presidential candidate Mitt Romney as unable to elevate "wedge issues," or divisive issues that polarize voters, to the forefront of the Republican debate. Calling Romney a "terrible candidate with a terrible campaign," the slides pillory him as a Republican who managed to squander winnable states just like every other "loser" moderate candidate.
By deploying these issues and emphasizing his Hispanic heritage and religious roots, Cruz can win the presidency, the super PAC says. |
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| Quote: | Washington (CNN)The $38 million super PAC supporting Ted Cruz plans to highlight polarizing issues as part of a full-throttle plan to turn out the white evangelical voters that can power him to victory, a new document reveals.
Keep the Promise, whose strategy is detailed in a 51-slide PowerPoint presentation titled "Can He Win?" recently posted to the organization's website, mercilessly attacks 2012 presidential candidate Mitt Romney as unable to elevate "wedge issues," or divisive issues that polarize voters, to the forefront of the Republican debate. Calling Romney a "terrible candidate with a terrible campaign," the slides pillory him as a Republican who managed to squander winnable states just like every other "loser" moderate candidate.
By deploying these issues and emphasizing his Hispanic heritage and religious roots, Cruz can win the presidency, the super PAC says. |
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Not a chance.
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| KobeBryantCliffordBrown wrote: | | 32 wrote: | Cruz super PAC's plan to win presidency
| Quote: | Washington (CNN)The $38 million super PAC supporting Ted Cruz plans to highlight polarizing issues as part of a full-throttle plan to turn out the white evangelical voters that can power him to victory, a new document reveals.
Keep the Promise, whose strategy is detailed in a 51-slide PowerPoint presentation titled "Can He Win?" recently posted to the organization's website, mercilessly attacks 2012 presidential candidate Mitt Romney as unable to elevate "wedge issues," or divisive issues that polarize voters, to the forefront of the Republican debate. Calling Romney a "terrible candidate with a terrible campaign," the slides pillory him as a Republican who managed to squander winnable states just like every other "loser" moderate candidate.
By deploying these issues and emphasizing his Hispanic heritage and religious roots, Cruz can win the presidency, the super PAC says. |
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Not a chance. |
Gross what these citizens waste their money on. And it is unfathomable that our political system is still run by money...generations of wasted potential. |
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I find Ted Cruz's politics to be appalling. Having said that, let me offer a few comments about this.
1. Do not ever underestimate Ted Cruz. He is intelligent, well educated, and articulate. It is easy to dismiss him because of his extreme views, but he is easily the smartest presidential candidate in the field and possibly the smartest candidate of this era. He is a terrific debater. If things fall right for him, he will humiliate the other GOP candidates in the coming debates.
2. When he ran for Senate, his opponent was a well-financed, well-respected conservative lieutenant governor (which is the most powerful post in Texas state government). Cruz was a longshot underdog. He crushed his opponent. He is relentlessly conservative and skillful at turning the tables on establishment candidates. I watched part of the debate, and it was just brutal. Some people will write this off as "Texas politics," but the GOP primaries around the country are not that different. Most of the establishment candidates have compromised at some point, or are moderate on some issues, and Cruz will stuff that down their throats.
3. His game plan is pure genius. He wins the GOP nomination by exposing the establishment candidates as weak (from the perspective of the right) and compromised. Then he takes on Hillary in the general election. Instead of moving to the middle, he stays right and fires up the GOP base with the wedge issues. Most Democrats find Hillary to be uninspiring. Key Democratic constituencies (minorities, the poor, etc.) voluntarily disenfranchise themselves by not bothering to vote. He presents a confident, aggressive image (ala Reagan), crushes Hillary in the debates, and beats her at the polls.
4. This is the perfect strategy for Cruz. Basically, he is betting that the fervor on the right will generate high voter turnout behind an unflinching conservative message, while the left will underestimate him and stay home. This could happen.
5. Cruz's biggest weakness, ironically, is the birthers. No matter what some of you may think of the birthers, most of them are not hypocrites. They are not buying into the legal argument that Cruz is eligible to be elected president. After all, that would mean that Obama was eligible even if he was born in Kenya. This is going to be a problem for Cruz in the GOP primaries. If he gets to the general election, the birthers are not going to vote for Hillary.
6. Cruz's other major weakness is his image as a loose cannon from Texas. He is often portrayed as a guy who is all about himself and who cannot work with others. This is essentially true. I foresee a lot of people on the far right thinking that they like what Cruz is saying, but that they can't take the risk of him turning out to be unelectable. Will they buy into his game plan? It could happen, but he has a hard sales job ahead of him.
A few years ago, I saw Michelle Bachmann bemoaning the fact that the GOP kept nominating "electable" candidates and that the "real" conservatives kept being told that they needed to compromise. Cruz is aiming for that sentiment. Heaven help us if he pulls it off. |
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Bill Clinton owns up.
Here are some of the mistakes he keeps apologizing for.
| Quote: | As president, Bill Clinton was wrong about Wall Street deregulation and various elements of his foreign policy, pushed trade policies that painfully drove up drug prices around the world, sowed chaos in Mexico through his prosecution of the drug war and exacerbated the problem of mass incarceration through an overly punitive approach to sentencing.
It may be a harsh judgment, but it's one that carries weight considering the source: former President Bill Clinton.
Unlike a lot of politicians, Clinton has shown a willingness to own up to his mistakes. Earlier this week, he offered a mea culpa around sentencing at the NAACP convention. Here's an incomplete list of policies he pursued as president that he has since acknowledged were not the best choices. |
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/...0896514d0e220?
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| ribeye wrote: | Bill Clinton owns up.
Here are some of the mistakes he keeps apologizing for.
| Quote: | As president, Bill Clinton was wrong about Wall Street deregulation and various elements of his foreign policy, pushed trade policies that painfully drove up drug prices around the world, sowed chaos in Mexico through his prosecution of the drug war and exacerbated the problem of mass incarceration through an overly punitive approach to sentencing.
It may be a harsh judgment, but it's one that carries weight considering the source: former President Bill Clinton.
Unlike a lot of politicians, Clinton has shown a willingness to own up to his mistakes. Earlier this week, he offered a mea culpa around sentencing at the NAACP convention. Here's an incomplete list of policies he pursued as president that he has since acknowledged were not the best choices. |
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/...0896514d0e220? |
Link doesn't work for me, nor without ? mark, but is Rwanda on this?
And these judgments aren't nearly harsh enough I'd guess on some of these. |
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| focus wrote: | | ribeye wrote: | Bill Clinton owns up.
Here are some of the mistakes he keeps apologizing for.
| Quote: | As president, Bill Clinton was wrong about Wall Street deregulation and various elements of his foreign policy, pushed trade policies that painfully drove up drug prices around the world, sowed chaos in Mexico through his prosecution of the drug war and exacerbated the problem of mass incarceration through an overly punitive approach to sentencing.
It may be a harsh judgment, but it's one that carries weight considering the source: former President Bill Clinton.
Unlike a lot of politicians, Clinton has shown a willingness to own up to his mistakes. Earlier this week, he offered a mea culpa around sentencing at the NAACP convention. Here's an incomplete list of policies he pursued as president that he has since acknowledged were not the best choices. |
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/...0896514d0e220? |
Link doesn't work for me, nor without ? mark, |
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/bill-clinton-is-sorry_55a83397e4b0896514d0e220
| Quote: | | but is Rwanda on this? |
Yes. |
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Good move on our part. We won't change the way the people are treated by embargos, that change has to come from within.
AH you'll be tested to know the difference between authentic Cuban and fake Cuban cigars.
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