kobe's defense is overated(from a kobe fan)

LakersPimp · Star Player Joined: 30 Aug 2005 Posts: 2210

Also...in a crucial possesion in the kings game...when devean went to help Luke...who was getting torched...kobe gambled for a steal...the pass went to the corner to his man...garcia...for an open 3. I agree when kobe is guarding a "no name" he goes into freelance mode defensively. The lakers for the most part have good rotation...but gambles quicken the react time...and get our bigs in foul trouble.

shnjb · Franchise Player Joined: 08 Oct 2002 Posts: 13320

Kobe's defense definitely leaves a lot to be desired.

He's noticeably slower on defense than he was in past years although I must admit that besides the first year when he made the first team all defense, his defense has never been consistent.

What Kobe really needs is a lock-down defender at the 3 spot (note: not Odumb) who can guard the opposition's best perimeter player.

ajaxxx · Posted: Fri Jan 20, 2006 5:48 pm Post subject:

akk7 · Star Player Joined: 15 Oct 2005 Posts: 3013

THIS IS RIDICOULOUS. Give ajaxx a break. He shared his opinion and thats it. Kobe does slack off on defense everyone knows that, but it is hard to play offense and defense at a constant high rate (too much energy), but kobe should play defense even if its a scrub. Another thing some guy here just said that artest and possibly bruce bowen are better defenders then kobe. Artest no doubt and bowen no doubt, not possibly. Some people on here making me crack up

LakersSpirit · Posted: Fri Jan 20, 2006 6:02 pm Post subject:

There are certain defensive fundamentals, that should always be practiced... It doesn't matter how tired you are, or how much energy you have to save up. I see too much coasting, at times... Shaq would do it too.
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ajaxxx · Posted: Fri Jan 20, 2006 6:07 pm Post subject:

Username · Posted: Fri Jan 20, 2006 6:09 pm Post subject:

Kobe's defensive ability isn't overrated, but he is overrated in the sense that he doesn't bring that intensity on defense every night. You can totally see the difference in his defensive attitude when he's playing someone like LeBron, T-Mac, Michael Redd, etc. as opposed to just a regular SG. If he brought it every game like he does against those guys, this wouldn't be a discussion.

LakerLanny · Retired Number Joined: 24 Oct 2001 Posts: 47581

His defense is very bad, but in his defense he is a one man team. Can't carry the entire team on offense and be a one man defensive lock down unit also unless you are "roided up"
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ajaxxx · Posted: Fri Jan 20, 2006 6:19 pm Post subject:

FBP Si 2000 · Posted: Fri Jan 20, 2006 7:02 pm Post subject:

akk7 · Star Player Joined: 15 Oct 2005 Posts: 3013

He is a great defender im not questioning that, but his desire to play defense against a regular player is not that great.

just example

jrich- good player he scores somehwere in the 30
vince -better offensivly then j rich 10 points

lakerfin · Posted: Fri Jan 20, 2006 7:26 pm Post subject:

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tgf5 · Posted: Sat Jan 21, 2006 1:22 am Post subject:

Kobe-Wan Kenobi · Starting Rotation Joined: 07 Jul 2005 Posts: 545

lol @ people even acting like there's something to argue about... sad
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ajaxxx · Posted: Sat Jan 21, 2006 9:24 am Post subject:

Its funny how many people don't know what the word overrated means.
Kobe being overrated as a defender simply means he's a good defender
just not as good as advertise.

VEN_150 · Posted: Sat Jan 21, 2006 11:33 am Post subject:

kobe can shut down anyone, he just doesn't put the effort sometimes, i think ray allen and vince carter would disagree with this thread

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ajaxxx · Posted: Thu Feb 16, 2006 6:10 pm Post subject:

Just wondering who was guarding josh smith
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shnjb · Franchise Player Joined: 08 Oct 2002 Posts: 13320

ajaxxx, you might be right but try not to rub it against the fellow fans here.

I mean, Kobe has some flaws (shot selection, poor efforts on defense and rebounding occasionally) but still he's the lone bright spot for this team so naturally people, myself included, do not want to hear about how terrible he is, how much he has regressed, how his athleticism has gone down, etc.

After all, when it's all said and done, I still think Kobe's the best perimeter player on both ends so we cannot ask for much more than that.

ajaxxx · Posted: Thu Feb 16, 2006 6:22 pm Post subject:

sorry

kobe is God

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tgf5 · Posted: Thu Feb 16, 2006 6:38 pm Post subject:

lakerfansd · Star Player Joined: 23 Jun 2005 Posts: 1939

Ajaxxx, I agree with you. Criticizing Kobe shouldn't = being called a troll. When Kobe is motivated (ie playing against Wade, McGrady, etc), he plays great defense. Otherwise, he roams around allowing players wide open shots. I remember Stu said Kobe doesn't give you respect in terms of guarding you until you start making shots. I personally don't agree with that philosophy and I've seen Kobe allow guys wide open shots even after they've made a few. You can't spew facts to back it up because it comes from simply watching the game.