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| "CUPGATE" - Should Jason Kidd be Fined or Suspended? |
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K28
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| activeverb wrote: | | kray28_ wrote: | Nets had a legitimate chance of still tying the game...and their coach resorted to a cheating and dishonest act to gain an advantage the Nets should not have had.
The outcome is irrelevant... he needs to be punished for his dishonest act. |
Hard to imagine the NBA punishing a coach with the only evidence of wrong-doing being guesses of what he might have said from amateur lip-readers |
Yeah, but they had no problems fining Kobe $100K for calling a ref a (bleep). No one heard him say it...you could read his lips though. |
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Romano338
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| Posted: Thu Nov 28, 2013 8:13 am Post subject: |
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| He should definitely be fined. You can't allow that kind of thing. |
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Dr. Laker
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| Posted: Thu Nov 28, 2013 8:24 am Post subject: |
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Had a Lakers coach done it, they'd have instituted the death penalty.
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forzaCOREA
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| Posted: Thu Nov 28, 2013 8:27 am Post subject: |
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| I've been around my share of druggies, but just something doesn't look right with j.kidd. |
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| Posted: Thu Nov 28, 2013 8:31 am Post subject: |
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| Luca Brasi wrote: | | You have to admire a guy who'll go full Leslie Nielsen on you. |
Quite a Lt. Frank Drebin redux last night. Had some of Ted Striker's (Robert Hays) "drinking problem" mixed in there too. |
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| Posted: Thu Nov 28, 2013 8:35 am Post subject: |
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| Hammett wrote: | | 32 wrote: | | I bet you guys wouldn't be laughing if we lost this game. |
A million times this. |
But we won so we're laughing all the way to the soda fountain.
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Freddie Buckets
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| Posted: Thu Nov 28, 2013 8:38 am Post subject: |
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| 32 wrote: | | I bet you guys wouldn't be laughing if we lost this game. |
If we would have lost, it would not be because Kidd spilled his drink. |
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Treble Clef
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| Posted: Thu Nov 28, 2013 8:49 am Post subject: |
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| kray28_ wrote: | Nets had a legitimate chance of still tying the game...and their coach resorted to a cheating and dishonest act to gain an advantage the Nets should not have had.
The outcome is irrelevant... he needs to be punished for his dishonest act. |
I think he will be. There's all kinds of other crap going on during free throws that they should do away with as well. Some defenders rebound the first free throw and hold on to it for a while before the ref can give it back. Some teams will have their rebounders all change positions after the first free throw. Some players from the top of the perimeter will stand next to the shooter and pretend to relay plays to the rebounders. It's all junk that is trying to accomplish the same thing that Kidd tried to do last night. |
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| Posted: Thu Nov 28, 2013 9:01 am Post subject: |
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| Kobe2Dwight12 wrote: | | 32 wrote: | | I bet you guys wouldn't be laughing if we lost this game. |
If we would have lost, it would not be because Kidd spilled his drink. |
No, it would be because the refs let KG push everyone around and set illegal screens with no punishment. |
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erisian
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| Posted: Thu Nov 28, 2013 9:07 am Post subject: |
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| 27 wrote: | | Kobe2Dwight12 wrote: | | 32 wrote: | | I bet you guys wouldn't be laughing if we lost this game. |
If we would have lost, it would not be because Kidd spilled his drink. |
No, it would be because the refs let KG push everyone around and set illegal screens with no punishment. |
We were getting MAULED in the key with no call, and like 8 of our guys were yet another BS whistle away from fouling out. |
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Romano338
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| Posted: Thu Nov 28, 2013 9:22 am Post subject: |
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| Kobe2Dwight12 wrote: | | 32 wrote: | | I bet you guys wouldn't be laughing if we lost this game. |
If we would have lost, it would not be because Kidd spilled his drink. |
And still people would get angry.
Which is the ultimate proof that 98% of people aren't obective. They judge an action based on the final result of the game. |
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| Posted: Thu Nov 28, 2013 9:32 am Post subject: |
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| he should be suspended. lawrence frank deserves a fine as well for drawing up the play. |
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| Posted: Thu Nov 28, 2013 9:35 am Post subject: |
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Why would you fine genius? No time outs, no chance to draw up a play, innovation should be rewarded. J Kidd came up with that in the spur of the moment and it worked. The shot didn't fall but the ploy worked.
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Romano338
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| Posted: Thu Nov 28, 2013 9:38 am Post subject: |
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| jodeke wrote: | | Why would you fine genius? No time outs, no chance to draw up a play, innovation should be rewarded. J Kidd came up with that in the spur of the moment and it worked. The shot didn't fall but the ploy worked. |
It's unsportmanlike. If he has no time out, don't you think it's his own fault?
You sanction players for touching a tiny little bit the ball after you score, and you would allow a behavior like that?! |
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| Posted: Thu Nov 28, 2013 9:39 am Post subject: |
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Because of the video evidence that he clearly did it intentionally he will likely get fined.
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| Posted: Thu Nov 28, 2013 9:45 am Post subject: |
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| Romano338 wrote: | | jodeke wrote: | | Why would you fine genius? No time outs, no chance to draw up a play, innovation should be rewarded. J Kidd came up with that in the spur of the moment and it worked. The shot didn't fall but the ploy worked. |
It's unsportmanlike. If he has no time out, don't you think it's his own fault?
You sanction players for touching a tiny little bit the ball after you score, and you would allow a behavior like that?! |
I applaud quick thinking. All the unsportsman like and against the rules out the door. If D'Antoni had done it LG would be praising him for being slick. If I were a betting man I'd wager this is over, no fine, suspension, nothing, it's over.
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ringThingDoUrThiNg
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| Posted: Thu Nov 28, 2013 9:49 am Post subject: |
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He should be heavily fined. No excuses, no one should be encouraged to manipulate the rules like that.
From now on if a coach spills his drink on the floor he should receive a tech. |
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| Posted: Thu Nov 28, 2013 9:51 am Post subject: |
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| jodeke wrote: | | Romano338 wrote: | | jodeke wrote: | | Why would you fine genius? No time outs, no chance to draw up a play, innovation should be rewarded. J Kidd came up with that in the spur of the moment and it worked. The shot didn't fall but the ploy worked. |
It's unsportmanlike. If he has no time out, don't you think it's his own fault?
You sanction players for touching a tiny little bit the ball after you score, and you would allow a behavior like that?! |
I applaud quick thinking. All the unsportsman like and against the rules out the door. If D'Antoni had done it LG would be praising him for being slick. If I were a betting man I'd wager this is over, no fine, suspension, nothing, it's over. |
so every coach can do it now when they mismanage their timeouts! the league HAS to at least fine.
and if MDA did that he'd called a clown. |
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Black Salt
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| Posted: Thu Nov 28, 2013 9:56 am Post subject: |
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| Let it go. He did it, it didnt work, he wont do it again. Its over. |
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| Posted: Thu Nov 28, 2013 9:56 am Post subject: |
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| greenfrog wrote: | | jodeke wrote: | | Romano338 wrote: | | jodeke wrote: | | Why would you fine genius? No time outs, no chance to draw up a play, innovation should be rewarded. J Kidd came up with that in the spur of the moment and it worked. The shot didn't fall but the ploy worked. |
It's unsportmanlike. If he has no time out, don't you think it's his own fault?
You sanction players for touching a tiny little bit the ball after you score, and you would allow a behavior like that?! |
I applaud quick thinking. All the unsportsman like and against the rules out the door. If D'Antoni had done it LG would be praising him for being slick. If I were a betting man I'd wager this is over, no fine, suspension, nothing, it's over. |
so every coach can do it now when they mismanage their timeouts! the league HAS to at least fine.
and if MDA did that he'd called a clown. |
that was quick thinking to perform a fineable offense.
So you applaud people who can quickly think of how to cheat?
if reviewed by refs, technical foul delay of game.
what's the difference from a coach just throwing a drink onto the court?
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| Posted: Thu Nov 28, 2013 9:57 am Post subject: |
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| Suspended and/or fined for THAT?! Wow. Not a big deal. |
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It should be a suspension and forfeit of the game. If Pierce had hit that jumper, and the Nets win in overtime, then they should have to forfeit for cheating that assisted in a victory.
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| greenfrog wrote: | | jodeke wrote: | | Romano338 wrote: | | jodeke wrote: | | Why would you fine genius? No time outs, no chance to draw up a play, innovation should be rewarded. J Kidd came up with that in the spur of the moment and it worked. The shot didn't fall but the ploy worked. |
It's unsportmanlike. If he has no time out, don't you think it's his own fault?
You sanction players for touching a tiny little bit the ball after you score, and you would allow a behavior like that?! |
I applaud quick thinking. All the unsportsman like and against the rules out the door. If D'Antoni had done it LG would be praising him for being slick. If I were a betting man I'd wager this is over, no fine, suspension, nothing, it's over. |
so every coach can do it now when they mismanage their timeouts! the league HAS to at least fine.
and if MDA did that he'd called a clown. |
Bull Twinkie!!!! He did nothing to damage the game. It's not something that will go into playbooks. He painted himself into a corner and found a way out. Is that not genius?
Basketball won't be irreparably damaged. He got slick, got caught, get over it.
I don't believe Mike would have been called a clown. Him having that kind of quick thought would have been a surprise.
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| Posted: Thu Nov 28, 2013 10:09 am Post subject: |
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| jodeke wrote: | | greenfrog wrote: | | jodeke wrote: | | Romano338 wrote: | | jodeke wrote: | | Why would you fine genius? No time outs, no chance to draw up a play, innovation should be rewarded. J Kidd came up with that in the spur of the moment and it worked. The shot didn't fall but the ploy worked. |
It's unsportmanlike. If he has no time out, don't you think it's his own fault?
You sanction players for touching a tiny little bit the ball after you score, and you would allow a behavior like that?! |
I applaud quick thinking. All the unsportsman like and against the rules out the door. If D'Antoni had done it LG would be praising him for being slick. If I were a betting man I'd wager this is over, no fine, suspension, nothing, it's over. |
so every coach can do it now when they mismanage their timeouts! the league HAS to at least fine.
and if MDA did that he'd called a clown. |
Bull Twinkie!!!! He did nothing to damage the game. It's not something that will go into playbooks. He painted himself into a corner and found a way out.
Is that not genius? Basketball won't be irreparably damaged. He got slick, got caught, get over it.
I don't believe Mike would have been called a clown. Him having that kind of quick thought would have been a surprise. |
if there's no fine or penalty then how did he "get caught"? |
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| Posted: Thu Nov 28, 2013 10:14 am Post subject: |
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J Kidd's punishment is that he has to continue coaching the Nets.
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