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Nash Vegas Star Player
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Posted: Sat Jul 20, 2013 10:02 am Post subject: When Gasol retires will he be mentioned among Lakers great Centers - Mikan, Wilt, Kareem, Shaq? |
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Pau Gasol basically played Center full time 2 of the 3 years we made it to the NBA Finals and won 2 rings. But he was also basically playing Center to close out quarters too in all those 3 years.
Will his legacy be known as a Laker's great Center, PF?, or just great 'big man'? _________________
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Legacy Star Player
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Posted: Sat Jul 20, 2013 10:05 am Post subject: |
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Interesting question. I think he will certainly be remembered as a great Lakers "big". I guess only time will tell with the center thing. |
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Dave20 Franchise Player
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Posted: Sat Jul 20, 2013 10:06 am Post subject: |
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Yeah he will because he was a big reason for us winning 2 championships. |
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JUST-MING Retired Number
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Chronicle Retired Number
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Posted: Sat Jul 20, 2013 10:06 am Post subject: |
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Should be.
If he wins another ring, will be. _________________ Kobe |
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Jackobe Star Player
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Posted: Sat Jul 20, 2013 10:07 am Post subject: |
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no.
those guys were superstars....
and those players were at some point the best player on the their championship teams.....
Pau at one point was probably the top 3 PFs in the league, but never really at the superstar level i think and never the best player on the team. |
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nash Star Player
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Posted: Sat Jul 20, 2013 10:08 am Post subject: |
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I love Pau, great guy, great player, better than D12 as player, team player, a guy to remember as a Laker champion, jersey retired BUT ... he´s not in the same league as Mikan, Wilt, Kareem and Shaq cause in one way or another they where just great, dominant and powerfull forces.
I wont take anything from Pau, but the caliber of those guys are beyond great players level they are the all time best. |
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Chronicle Retired Number
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Posted: Sat Jul 20, 2013 10:10 am Post subject: |
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Pau dominated Dwight Howard in 09 and Garnett in 10, as well as his foes in the series before that.
Go watch game 7 vs the celtics again. You'll understand. _________________ Kobe |
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vincentjohn Starting Rotation
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Posted: Sat Jul 20, 2013 10:10 am Post subject: |
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He will be in same the club with James Worthy. |
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K2 Franchise Player
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Posted: Sat Jul 20, 2013 10:11 am Post subject: |
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One of the best big men to ever play the game. While he probably won't be getting a statue, he'll most likely get his number retired. |
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JUST-MING Retired Number
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Chronicle Retired Number
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Posted: Sat Jul 20, 2013 10:12 am Post subject: |
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JUST-MING wrote: | vincentjohn wrote: | He will be in same the club with James Worthy. |
My thoughts. |
This. _________________ Kobe |
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Lakers95 Franchise Player
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Posted: Sat Jul 20, 2013 10:17 am Post subject: |
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He's definitely going to have his jersey retired, and the impact he's had, based on our transition from a mediocre team to an elite, championship team after his arrival, is arguably as big as any of the other legendary Laker big men, but skill wise, he's just a tier lower than them. He should be considered a Laker "great" though, because of how much he's meant to this team. |
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Posted: Sat Jul 20, 2013 10:22 am Post subject: |
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His jersey deserves to be hanging in the rafters. _________________ Music is my medicine |
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Lowest Merion Retired
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Posted: Sat Jul 20, 2013 10:23 am Post subject: |
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Decent question. It likely depends on if he makes the Hall or not. Hall = Rafters, despite how incredibly horrid the Hall is run. Why the Lakers attach their rafters and decision making to such a flawed entity escapes me.
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SGV-Laker fan Star Player
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Posted: Sat Jul 20, 2013 10:25 am Post subject: |
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NO, he only had two good years with us, during those two, only one standout playoff. and the players OP mentioned, they could dominate and carry the team by themselves. on many occasion when Kobe went down with injuries during Pau's tenure here, he was not able to do that. |
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TDRock Retired Number
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Posted: Sat Jul 20, 2013 10:28 am Post subject: |
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Chronicle wrote: | JUST-MING wrote: | vincentjohn wrote: | He will be in same the club with James Worthy. |
My thoughts. |
This. |
Agreed and that's a pretty nice darn club to be in. |
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Lonzo-Lite Star Player
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Posted: Sat Jul 20, 2013 10:29 am Post subject: |
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nash wrote: | I love Pau, great guy, great player, better than D12 as player, team player, a guy to remember as a Laker champion, jersey retired BUT ... he´s not in the same league as Mikan, Wilt, Kareem and Shaq cause in one way or another they where just great, dominant and powerfull forces.
I wont take anything from Pau, but the caliber of those guys are beyond great players level they are the all time best. |
If Pau Gasol was on any other team, he'd be known as 1 of their all time great bigs. But since this is the Lakers, we're just too great to be just good.
Say if Gasol was a Houston Rocket, he'd be just 2nd best big just a step down the Hakeem Olajuwon level with both their 2 rings, but Gasol would definitely surpass Yao Ming, Hayes, and Sampson already.
_________________ Tacos
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ReaListik Star Player
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Posted: Sat Jul 20, 2013 10:32 am Post subject: |
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I think he definitely should be mentioned with the other great laker bigs. _________________ "We are the goodest." - Shaq ESPN interview |
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dmorans1 Franchise Player
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Posted: Sat Jul 20, 2013 10:33 am Post subject: |
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TDRock wrote: | Chronicle wrote: | JUST-MING wrote: | vincentjohn wrote: | He will be in same the club with James Worthy. |
My thoughts. |
This. |
Agreed and that's a pretty nice darn club to be in. |
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Pau Gasol's Beard Star Player
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Posted: Sat Jul 20, 2013 10:54 am Post subject: |
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Yes, he stopped being hungry after the 2 chips but Shaq only has one more than him as a Laker. |
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KBryantisclutch Star Player
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Posted: Sat Jul 20, 2013 11:02 am Post subject: |
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nash wrote: | I love Pau, great guy, great player, better than D12 as player, team player, a guy to remember as a Laker champion, jersey retired BUT ... he´s not in the same league as Mikan, Wilt, Kareem and Shaq cause in one way or another they where just great, dominant and powerfull forces.
I wont take anything from Pau, but the caliber of those guys are beyond great players level they are the all time best. |
You're right, he's not in the same league as Mikan. . .he's a hell of a lot better. |
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pjiddy Retired Number
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Posted: Sat Jul 20, 2013 11:04 am Post subject: |
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TDRock wrote: | Chronicle wrote: | JUST-MING wrote: | vincentjohn wrote: | He will be in same the club with James Worthy. |
My thoughts. |
This. |
Agreed and that's a pretty nice darn club to be in. |
I'd agree, too. Who else is in the Worthy club? Wilkes? Baylor?
Another question: Have the Lakers retired all their HOFer jerseys? Is Pau a retire-able jersey? |
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Chronicle Retired Number
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Posted: Sat Jul 20, 2013 11:06 am Post subject: |
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pjiddy wrote: | Another question: Have the Lakers retired all their HOFer jerseys? Is Pau a retire-able jersey? |
Yes and yes.
pjiddy wrote: | I'd agree, too. Who else is in the Worthy club? Wilkes? Baylor? |
Wilkes is. Baylor is in the tier above. _________________ Kobe |
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