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venturalakersfan
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| thetruthteller wrote: | | K0BEE 2.0 wrote: | | There is no doubt, that Irving is a proven clutch performer and a nice talent..... but the fact he has had troubles fitting in with his teammates is not a good sign... |
Irving is not their problem. Waiters is the problem there. Also Gilbert has done a poor job in surrounding Irving with the PROPER NBA talent. I mean after Shaq was traded, and Kobe was 26, 27 and 28 years old, and IN his prime...what did the Lakers do ? They weren't even a 500 team. Is that ALL on Kobe ? No. Nor is it all on Kyrie either. Trust me, teams would KILL to get Kyrie. And to say that the 6th pick is worth MORE then Irving is just a stupid statement. |
You can never compare Kobe to Kyrie. Kobe works hard to make his game better, Kyrie is the same player now that he was when he came into the league. He doesn't care, I would say there is a good chance our pick will care and try to develop his game and improve. The stupid statement is saying that Kyrie is someone the Lakers need to look at.
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| Posted: Thu Apr 17, 2014 9:32 am Post subject: |
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| venturalakersfan wrote: | | thetruthteller wrote: | | K0BEE 2.0 wrote: | | There is no doubt, that Irving is a proven clutch performer and a nice talent..... but the fact he has had troubles fitting in with his teammates is not a good sign... |
Irving is not their problem. Waiters is the problem there. Also Gilbert has done a poor job in surrounding Irving with the PROPER NBA talent. I mean after Shaq was traded, and Kobe was 26, 27 and 28 years old, and IN his prime...what did the Lakers do ? They weren't even a 500 team. Is that ALL on Kobe ? No. Nor is it all on Kyrie either. Trust me, teams would KILL to get Kyrie. And to say that the 6th pick is worth MORE then Irving is just a stupid statement. |
You can never compare Kobe to Kyrie. Kobe works hard to make his game better, Kyrie is the same player now that he was when he came into the league. He doesn't care, I would say there is a good chance our pick will care and try to develop his game and improve. The stupid statement is saying that Kyrie is someone the Lakers need to look at. |
I never said the Lakers need to look at him. I said that you saying that a Unproven 6th pick in the draft is considerably MORE Valuable then Kyrie. And it is. It's especially stupid to suggest that a Unproven rookie can be used to get Lebron James. So please stop, and lets just move on. |
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But I didn't say that, I said that whoever traded for Irving would have to give up some young players as well as a lottery pick. I just said I didn't want the Lakers to ever entertain the idea of trading a lottery pick for Irving. I would prefer to have the pick, let Cleveland rot, they deserve that.
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this is now officially the best draft class since 03 in terms of big name prospects.
Parker, Wiggins, Embiid, Exum = 4 sure fire franchise players
Gordon, Smart, Vonleh, Randle = 4 other potential all-stars
now we need to find a way to get into the top 3 and we'll be set. |
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I'm relieved Jabari declared. I'd love to have him on our team. The comments he made today regarding his declaration really made him seem like a humble guy and one that you would want on your team, not to mention the talent that he has. As long as we stay in at least the 6th spot, we're guaranteed Wiggins, Embiid, Parker, Exum, Randle, or Smart, so we're in pretty good shape. I'm so excited for May 20th and the draft itself!
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Parker in is great news. Not because we can land him - but it means the draft got stronger and a great pick should be there at number 6.
So Embiid/Wiggins/Parker all guaranteed top 3-4. Add Randle in there.
LA is in position to draft Exum, Smart or Vonleh. Any of those picks, are considered strong, strong upgrades to what we have right now at PG/PF or F. Now lets see if we can get lucky and move up. |
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| Posted: Thu Apr 17, 2014 9:48 am Post subject: |
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| NastyNas_87 wrote: | this is now officially the best draft class since 03 in terms of big name prospects.
Parker, Wiggins, Embiid, Exum = 4 sure fire franchise players
Gordon, Smart, Vonleh, Randle = 4 other potential all-stars
now we need to find a way to get into the top 3 and we'll be set. |
Well first off, I don't see how you can say anyone of these guys is a for SURE fire Franchise player. But to put Exum in that class is ridiculous. I mean it's one thing to have Athleticism, which he does. But his skill level is not good. And he has no experience playing against even AVERAGE players. I mean " Wiggins-Parker-Embiid " are not FOR SURE things. But at least they have went up against the best. |
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| Posted: Thu Apr 17, 2014 9:50 am Post subject: |
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| thetruthteller wrote: | | NastyNas_87 wrote: | this is now officially the best draft class since 03 in terms of big name prospects.
Parker, Wiggins, Embiid, Exum = 4 sure fire franchise players
Gordon, Smart, Vonleh, Randle = 4 other potential all-stars
now we need to find a way to get into the top 3 and we'll be set. |
Well first off, I don't see how you can say anyone of these guys is a for SURE fire Franchise player. But to put Exum in that class is ridiculous. I mean it's one thing to have Athleticism, which he does. But his skill level is not good. And he has no experience playing against even AVERAGE players. I mean " Wiggins-Parker-Embiid " are not FOR SURE things. But at least they have went up against the best. |
I agree with the sentiment. After really watching the top 7 players a lot in college, I'm not sure there are sure-fire HOFers in that group. Sure, they have the potential to be great players.
However, I do agree this is one of the deepest drafts in recent memory. There will be lots of happy franchises come draft day.
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| Posted: Thu Apr 17, 2014 9:51 am Post subject: |
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| Exum is like westbrook |
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| Posted: Thu Apr 17, 2014 9:52 am Post subject: |
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| venturalakersfan wrote: | | Purp&Gold wrote: | | all we needed was the 4th spot to get a potential franchise player. man this sucks. |
Why? They haven't even selected the draft order yet. |
dude this is getting old now.
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| yinoma2001 wrote: | | thetruthteller wrote: | | NastyNas_87 wrote: | this is now officially the best draft class since 03 in terms of big name prospects.
Parker, Wiggins, Embiid, Exum = 4 sure fire franchise players
Gordon, Smart, Vonleh, Randle = 4 other potential all-stars
now we need to find a way to get into the top 3 and we'll be set. |
Well first off, I don't see how you can say anyone of these guys is a for SURE fire Franchise player. But to put Exum in that class is ridiculous. I mean it's one thing to have Athleticism, which he does. But his skill level is not good. And he has no experience playing against even AVERAGE players. I mean " Wiggins-Parker-Embiid " are not FOR SURE things. But at least they have went up against the best. |
I agree with the sentiment. After really watching the top 7 players a lot in college, I'm not sure there are sure-fire HOFers in that group. Sure, they have the potential to be great players.
However, I do agree this is one of the deepest drafts in recent memory. There will be lots of happy franchises come draft day. |
That I DO agree with. There is a lot to like about the skills, Physical size and abilities, and what not about a lot of these prospects. But that still does not guarantee great NBA Success. |
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| Posted: Thu Apr 17, 2014 9:53 am Post subject: |
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| wolfpaclaker wrote: | Parker in is great news. Not because we can land him - but it means the draft got stronger and a great pick should be there at number 6.
So Embiid/Wiggins/Parker all guaranteed top 3-4. Add Randle in there.
LA is in position to draft Exum, Smart or Vonleh. Any of those picks, are considered strong, strong upgrades to what we have right now at PG/PF or F. Now lets see if we can get lucky and move up. |
Yup. This is a great year to be in the lotto. |
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| Posted: Thu Apr 17, 2014 9:54 am Post subject: |
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| Lakers95 wrote: | | I'm relieved Jabari declared. I'd love to have him on our team. The comments he made today regarding his declaration really made him seem like a humble guy and one that you would want on your team, not to mention the talent that he has. As long as we stay in at least the 6th spot, we're guaranteed Wiggins, Embiid, Parker, Exum, Randle, or Smart, so we're in pretty good shape. I'm so excited for May 20th and the draft itself! |
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| Quote: | Adrian Wojnarowski @WojYahooNBA 1m
Yahoo Sources: Duke's Rodney Hood will enter the NBA Draft, close to signing with an agent. http://yhoo.it/1jO7xvs |
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| Posted: Thu Apr 17, 2014 10:14 am Post subject: |
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| Jim99187 wrote: | | venturalakersfan wrote: | | Purp&Gold wrote: | | all we needed was the 4th spot to get a potential franchise player. man this sucks. |
Why? They haven't even selected the draft order yet. |
dude this is getting old now.
Ok? |
So has the unnecessary panic, but that doesn't stop. I honestly believe there is a good number of posters who think we are drafting 6th.
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| Jim99187 wrote: | | Quote: | Adrian Wojnarowski @WojYahooNBA 1m
Yahoo Sources: Duke's Rodney Hood will enter the NBA Draft, close to signing with an agent. http://yhoo.it/1jO7xvs |
if anybody cares |
I would if we had a second pick around 8-15.
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| Posted: Thu Apr 17, 2014 10:33 am Post subject: |
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| venturalakersfan wrote: | | Jim99187 wrote: | | Quote: | Adrian Wojnarowski @WojYahooNBA 1m
Yahoo Sources: Duke's Rodney Hood will enter the NBA Draft, close to signing with an agent. http://yhoo.it/1jO7xvs |
if anybody cares |
I would if we had a second pick around 8-15. |
ya me too. maybe we can buy a later pick? from Phoenix? |
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| Jim99187 wrote: | | venturalakersfan wrote: | | Jim99187 wrote: | | Quote: | Adrian Wojnarowski @WojYahooNBA 1m
Yahoo Sources: Duke's Rodney Hood will enter the NBA Draft, close to signing with an agent. http://yhoo.it/1jO7xvs |
if anybody cares |
I would if we had a second pick around 8-15. |
ya me too. maybe we can buy a later pick? from Phoenix? |
I know Sarver is cheap but not sure many teams will give up 1st rounders this year.
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| Posted: Thu Apr 17, 2014 10:35 am Post subject: |
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| venturalakersfan wrote: | | Jim99187 wrote: | | venturalakersfan wrote: | | Purp&Gold wrote: | | all we needed was the 4th spot to get a potential franchise player. man this sucks. |
Why? They haven't even selected the draft order yet. |
dude this is getting old now.
Ok? |
So has the unnecessary panic, but that doesn't stop. I honestly believe there is a good number of posters who think we are drafting 6th. |
I guess I'm one of them....where are the Lakers drafting then? thx |
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| Posted: Thu Apr 17, 2014 10:36 am Post subject: |
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| venturalakersfan wrote: | | Jim99187 wrote: | | venturalakersfan wrote: | | Purp&Gold wrote: | | all we needed was the 4th spot to get a potential franchise player. man this sucks. |
Why? They haven't even selected the draft order yet. |
dude this is getting old now.
Ok? |
So has the unnecessary panic, but that doesn't stop. I honestly believe there is a good number of posters who think we are drafting 6th. |
because that's the most likely outcome |
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| Posted: Thu Apr 17, 2014 10:40 am Post subject: |
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| venturalakersfan wrote: | | Jim99187 wrote: | | venturalakersfan wrote: | | Purp&Gold wrote: | | all we needed was the 4th spot to get a potential franchise player. man this sucks. |
Why? They haven't even selected the draft order yet. |
dude this is getting old now.
Ok? |
So has the unnecessary panic, but that doesn't stop. I honestly believe there is a good number of posters who think we are drafting 6th. |
its a reality man. better to come to reality then be disappointed in the end.
there is a reason its called lottery |
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| Posted: Thu Apr 17, 2014 10:42 am Post subject: |
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| Jim99187 wrote: | | venturalakersfan wrote: | | Jim99187 wrote: | | venturalakersfan wrote: | | Purp&Gold wrote: | | all we needed was the 4th spot to get a potential franchise player. man this sucks. |
Why? They haven't even selected the draft order yet. |
dude this is getting old now.
Ok? |
So has the unnecessary panic, but that doesn't stop. I honestly believe there is a good number of posters who think we are drafting 6th. |
its a reality man. better to come to reality then be disappointed in the end.
there is a reason its called lottery |
No it's not.
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| Posted: Thu Apr 17, 2014 10:42 am Post subject: |
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| lakerboy wrote: | | venturalakersfan wrote: | | Jim99187 wrote: | | venturalakersfan wrote: | | Purp&Gold wrote: | | all we needed was the 4th spot to get a potential franchise player. man this sucks. |
Why? They haven't even selected the draft order yet. |
dude this is getting old now.
Ok? |
So has the unnecessary panic, but that doesn't stop. I honestly believe there is a good number of posters who think we are drafting 6th. |
because that's the most likely outcome |
With a probability of a different outcome.. |
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| Posted: Thu Apr 17, 2014 10:47 am Post subject: |
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| USCandLakers wrote: | | Jim99187 wrote: | | venturalakersfan wrote: | | Jim99187 wrote: | | venturalakersfan wrote: | | Purp&Gold wrote: | | all we needed was the 4th spot to get a potential franchise player. man this sucks. |
Why? They haven't even selected the draft order yet. |
dude this is getting old now.
Ok? |
So has the unnecessary panic, but that doesn't stop. I honestly believe there is a good number of posters who think we are drafting 6th. |
its a reality man. better to come to reality then be disappointed in the end.
there is a reason its called lottery |
No it's not. |
keep telling that to yourself. maybe I should have been more correct.
a low priority? u happy with that?
but go ahead and keep telling that to urself |
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| Posted: Thu Apr 17, 2014 10:49 am Post subject: |
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| Jim99187 wrote: | | USCandLakers wrote: | | Jim99187 wrote: | | venturalakersfan wrote: | | Jim99187 wrote: | | venturalakersfan wrote: | | Purp&Gold wrote: | | all we needed was the 4th spot to get a potential franchise player. man this sucks. |
Why? They haven't even selected the draft order yet. |
dude this is getting old now.
Ok? |
So has the unnecessary panic, but that doesn't stop. I honestly believe there is a good number of posters who think we are drafting 6th. |
its a reality man. better to come to reality then be disappointed in the end.
there is a reason its called lottery |
No it's not. |
keep telling that to yourself. maybe I should have been more correct.
a low priority? u happy with that?
but go ahead and keep telling that to urself |
Yes.
We have a chance of jumping into the top 3, but we also have a chance of falling up to the 3 spots to #9. There's a chance we get #6. That's reality.
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