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| USCandLakers wrote: | | focus wrote: | | KobeRe-Loaded wrote: | | Don Draper wrote: | I'm doing something dangerous spoiler wise by posting here, but can anyone tell me if it's worth going through this season given the terrible reviews the finale is getting?
I watched the premier episode but stopped after that due to some binging on other shows. |
I would say you should watch it. Myself I liked True Detective Season 2 because I took it for what it was .... a new story line with new characters.
I think the general issue is Season 1 was A+, Phenomenal, Amazing etc
So you know Season 2 had NO CHANCE to live up to such lofty expectations.
Personally I would give Season 2 a letter grade of B- |
S1 was A but though at 1st I'd agreed with s2 being a B-, further thought I give it a C-. C is average not good not bad, so C- feels right.
I'd say don't watch it. Why waste limited time (only 24 hours in a day right) on even a B- show with the other good options? After Vaughn was cast, I set my expectations pretty low and treated s2 on its own merits...which were not much. Acting and story mostly weak. Binge on other shows (or life). I still haven't even seen 1 ep of Breaking Bad yet.
I thought it was going to be a better finale because I saw last couple episodes better than all the earlier ones. Not disappointed I stuck with it, because I just wanted to see the characters end up and I didn't mind some of the action scenes.
Hope season 3 has no tie to s2 or even s1.
Wishlist Cast - John Hawkes (sol from deadwood, and evil cult leader in a movie)
Kim Dickens also Deadwood, Treme
rila fukushima from Wolverine
erica tazel from Deadwood
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Whose acting in particular was weak? |
Vince gets the title here. I never thought McAdams was bad in her movies comedies. I think she's miscast here as a world weary detective especially in the early episodes, though others disagree. Thought she did a solid job in the last couple episodes though. Story and other aspects didn't help actors out a whole lot. A lot of minor characters were pretty decent though. |
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| To me Colin Farrell did a better job in this season than anyone in True Detective season 1. He pretty much carried the season with Rachel Mcadams. |
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I liked it, but I immediately separated season 1 from season 2 in my own head and evaluations.
Colin Farrell was especially masterful in season 2,
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This season was Gawd awful. It was like watching a horny dog dry-humping air. A bunch of pointless flailing without ever hitting the mark. What a complete waste of talent. And an even bigger waste of viewers time. What exactly was the high point of the season?  Could of at least gave the viewers some relief by blasting that dang annoying folk singer who kept popping up at the wierdest of moments, but noooo.
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| Season 2 was terrible. It was impossibly hard to follow. I mean one of the biggest motivators behind Vince Vaughn's actions was the death of Stan and no one knew who the hell Stan was. The most popular article going around regarding True Detective was a guide on understanding what was going on. The only thing more out of place than Vince Vaughn was his girlfriend. Way too many characters that they didn't spend nearly enough time developing. |
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| Aussiesuede wrote: | | This season was Gawd awful. It was like watching a horny dog dry-humping air. A bunch of pointless flailing without ever hitting the mark. What a complete waste of talent. And an even bigger waste of viewers time. What exactly was the high point of the season? Could of at least gave the viewers some relief by blasting that dang annoying folk singer who kept popping up at the wierdest of moments, but noooo. |
How many times did we need Vince Vaughn and Colin Farrell staring at each other? That was half the show. |
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I'd give season 2 a passing grade.
Both seasons of True Detective have had amazing action sequences. The problem is that they don't happen frequent enough.
The 6 minute, single take, tracking shot of McConaughey running through low-income gang-infested houses was amazing season 1.
Season 2 had a great street firefight/massacre.
The directing in True Detective almost gives it a passing grade on its own.
Even if I found the script lacking season 2.
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| LakerLanny wrote: | I liked it, but I immediately separated season 1 from season 2 in my own head and evaluations.
Colin Farrell was especially masterful in season 2, |
I thought Colin did a good job. I was intrigued by wondering if his son was his. His chubby features and red hair through some off. I'm glad they cleared his paternity.
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I know I shouldn't let it bother me but it does.
Those who like to bad mouth other people's creative efforts clearly have no idea what it takes to bring a show to the screen.
Most of the morons here only care to harp on a story seemingly half told, and lack the intelligence or simply just the general awareness of the amazing job that was done with the subtle yet effective cinematic elements.
The music ( Lera Lynn) and acting ( Everyone) this season was amazing, the cinematography was top shelf, the lighting was incredible, the location team (Michael, Darrin and the gang pulled off some AMAZING looks) and is what I feel a well told story that was a love and a hate affair with Southern California, a tale of treachery and a tale of lost hope.
So to all those who like to bad mouth other peoples hard work, I ask you how would you feel if you were critiqued negatively for your janitorial skills or whatever menial, brainless occupation you toil away at?
Yes, you are entitled to your stupid opinion as am I etc etc I know, dont bother.... |
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Hey dub why don't you tell how you really feel!!! 
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| jodeke wrote: | | Hey dub why don't you tell how you really feel!!! |
I really do apologize to any janitors here, I do appreciate them, just a bit upset.
If you cant read between the lines i was involved personally on a few different levels this season and it just hurts a bit when I see how much work was put in. |
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| dubaholic1 wrote: | | jodeke wrote: | | Hey dub why don't you tell how you really feel!!! |
I really do apologize to any janitors here, I do appreciate them, just a bit upset.
If you cant read between the lines i was involved personally on a few different levels this season and it just hurts a bit when I see how much work was put in. |
So it's ok for me to talk about how much I loved season 1 but I can't talk about how much I hated season 2? It's a two way street.
The story is impossible to follow. Answer something for me. After the Orgy party why are they all fugitives? How do they know that Rachel McAdams was the girl who killed the guy? How do they know Colin Farrell and Taylor Kitsch were involved?
It took me a while to realize the black guy at the end of episode 9 was Colin Farrell's police chief. They didn't spend nearly enough time developing him if he was going to play such an important role at the end.
And then there was the who the hell is Stan debacle. Did Stan even have a speaking role?
There was the huge joke of the red headed kid being Farrell's kid at the end. I know there was supposed to be some kind of sense of emotion at the end with that scene but how am I supposed to feel any emotion when it is so blatantly obvious that kid could never be Colin Farrell's kid. At least get someone that looks a little similar. |
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I think the criticisms I can't wrap my head around are the acting and how the story was hard to follow. I didn't think I was some kind of genius for being able to follow everything on my first viewings, but after finishing the season and then going back and reading reviews, I'm starting to wonder...
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I got the connection with Ani's father (David Morse) and how she got to the mental state she was in but never get the relevance of his character. She was the one left standing.
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is this going to be cancelled now? the 1st season was good the 1st few episodes and then it went south... the 2nd season looks boring.
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Wow, the fact that some of you stuck with Season 2 stuns me.
Season 1 was very well done across the board.
By the 4th episode of Season 2, it was clearly a pile of self-indulgent nonsense more involved with style than substance. |
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| rwongega wrote: | | DaMuleRules wrote: | Wow, the fact that some of you stuck with Season 2 stuns me.
Season 1 was very well done across the board.
By the 4th episode of Season 2, it was clearly a pile of self-indulgent nonsense more involved with style than substance. |
Hey, just because I stuck with this show longer than I did with Chicago Fire...  |
I didn't even stick with Chicago Fire. |
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Hey guys. Lighten up on criticism dub is sensitive. 
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| DaMuleRules wrote: | Wow, the fact that some of you stuck with Season 2 stuns me.
Season 1 was very well done across the board.
By the 4th episode of Season 2, it was clearly a pile of self-indulgent nonsense more involved with style than substance. |
You are correct, and I'm more upset with myself than anything else. I kept trying to give myself the excuse that "Last season was good, so this is bound to get better. There's just too much talent in play for it not to get better".
But you're right, I've nobody to blame for myself to have continued watching. What I just did is basically allow someone to pour donkey dung on my head and instead of smartly leaving, I instead kept coming back for more Donkey dung. Can't blame the donkey dung crew for that one. They didn't force me to come back for a 2nd, 3rd, 4th, 5th, 6th, & 7th helping of donkey dung bathing. 
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^^^^ Don't feel bad you're not on the bus alone. I stayed with anticipation. I thought, it has to get better.
I think season 1 was the reason so many hung around. I really believe season 3 will have the same hang around affect for the same reason, season 1. Hopefully it will come close to expectations.
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| kikanga wrote: | I'd give season 2 a passing grade.
Both seasons of True Detective have had amazing action sequences. The problem is that they don't happen frequent enough.
The 6 minute, single take, tracking shot of McConaughey running through low-income gang-infested houses was amazing season 1.
Season 2 had a great street firefight/massacre.
The directing in True Detective almost gives it a passing grade on its own.
Even if I found the script lacking season 2. |
One of my favorite scenes in the series, and although well done, I think the gang shootout in season 2 had more suspense. You didn't know who was making it out.
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True Detectives presents a unique problem. New story lines, new characters, new settings, new everything every season.
Season 1 set the bar kinda high. It's going to be difficult to match it. It's going to take extraordinary writing, story lines and casting.
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