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TDRock Retired Number
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Posted: Mon Mar 03, 2014 8:55 pm Post subject: So What's Going On With Jordan Hill? |
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I think this is the first post I've actually started, but I haven't seen anything on this.
The last few games he's not played well and then I see tonight he was a DNP - Coaches Decision. Even though they called it "coaches decision" is he hurt or something? Anyone have any knowledge as to what's going on there? |
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epak Retired Number
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Posted: Mon Mar 03, 2014 8:57 pm Post subject: |
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We're going small ball.
Besides, Hill is not that good. |
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lalakersfan88 Star Player
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Posted: Mon Mar 03, 2014 8:59 pm Post subject: |
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the lakers are going with players that have been more consistent than Hill is over the past few weeks.
Hill is good in short stretches in some games...if he plays too many minutes his effectiveness decreases drastically. |
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dirka dirka Franchise Player
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Posted: Mon Mar 03, 2014 9:01 pm Post subject: |
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lalakersfan88 wrote: |
Hill is good in short stretches in some games...if he plays too many minutes his effectiveness decreases drastically. |
This just isn't true at all. _________________
jbjb wrote: | Echoes from the half empty glass. |
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venturalakersfan Retired Number
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Posted: Mon Mar 03, 2014 9:01 pm Post subject: |
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There is always a chance of injury with Hill. _________________ RIP mom. 11-21-1933 to 6-14-2023. |
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mhan00 Retired Number
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Posted: Mon Mar 03, 2014 9:01 pm Post subject: |
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epak wrote: | We're going small ball.
Besides, Hill is not that good. |
Pretty much this. He's not a great scorer, he's not a great defender, he's only average or below average on defensive boards. He's an awesome offensive rebounder, but teams have scouted that and try to keep bodies on him at all times. He's got his niche role, but he's kind of spotty. |
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dirka dirka Franchise Player
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Posted: Mon Mar 03, 2014 9:04 pm Post subject: |
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venturalakersfan wrote: | There is always a chance of injury with Hill. |
What's it matter if we're not bringing him back anyways? _________________
jbjb wrote: | Echoes from the half empty glass. |
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pio2u Retired Number
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Posted: Mon Mar 03, 2014 9:04 pm Post subject: |
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We're going for a record 82 different starting line-ups in 82 games. |
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venturalakersfan Retired Number
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Posted: Mon Mar 03, 2014 9:06 pm Post subject: |
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dirka dirka wrote: | venturalakersfan wrote: | There is always a chance of injury with Hill. |
What's it matter if we're not bringing him back anyways? |
I agree. _________________ RIP mom. 11-21-1933 to 6-14-2023. |
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pio2u Retired Number
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pio2u Retired Number
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Posted: Mon Mar 03, 2014 9:07 pm Post subject: |
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mhan00 wrote: | epak wrote: | We're going small ball.
Besides, Hill is not that good. |
Pretty much this. He's not a great scorer, he's not a great defender, he's only average or below average on defensive boards. He's an awesome offensive rebounder, but teams have scouted that and try to keep bodies on him at all times. He's got his niche role, but he's kind of spotty. |
you just described 80% of our whole team minus the rebounds. |
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iggypop123 Star Player
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Posted: Mon Mar 03, 2014 9:08 pm Post subject: |
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he's a center. cannot play pf, its been a useless thing. he's gone and was practically giddy when he was gonna be traded then he wasnt. after his hot start to the season he really faded, he just cant sustain his play and teams decided to put the work to box him out. _________________ Kobe "I mean Phil's been here, and -- to be honest with you -- we might have, in all the years I've been with Phil, (had) maybe three defensive drills the entire time" |
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jorkerjork Starting Rotation
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Posted: Mon Mar 03, 2014 9:09 pm Post subject: |
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Hill leads the team in PER. Hollinger: He good. |
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dont_be_a_wuss Franchise Player
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Posted: Mon Mar 03, 2014 9:10 pm Post subject: |
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D'Antoni is playing the Sacre Kelly combination rather than the Hill Kaman combination. He likes the way Sacre sets screens, and the way Kelly spreads the floor compared to Kaman/Hill. Per Dave McMenemit |
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venturalakersfan Retired Number
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Posted: Mon Mar 03, 2014 9:11 pm Post subject: |
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jorkerjork wrote: | Hill leads the team in PER. Hollinger: He good. |
Sign and trade to Memphis! _________________ RIP mom. 11-21-1933 to 6-14-2023. |
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pio2u Retired Number
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Posted: Mon Mar 03, 2014 9:12 pm Post subject: |
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venturalakersfan wrote: | There is always a chance of injury with Hill. |
There's a chance for injury with every player especially a Laker at this point!
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theunknownsoldier Star Player
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Posted: Mon Mar 03, 2014 9:13 pm Post subject: |
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epak wrote: | We're going small ball.
Besides, Hill is not that good. |
He's better than Sacre. |
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dirka dirka Franchise Player
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Posted: Mon Mar 03, 2014 9:13 pm Post subject: |
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pio2u wrote: | venturalakersfan wrote: | There is always a chance of injury with Hill. |
There's a chance for injury with every player especially a Laker at this point!
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Yeah, we should hold Farmar out of games too! _________________
jbjb wrote: | Echoes from the half empty glass. |
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pio2u Retired Number
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Posted: Mon Mar 03, 2014 9:13 pm Post subject: |
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venturalakersfan wrote: | jorkerjork wrote: | Hill leads the team in PER. Hollinger: He good. |
Sign and trade to Memphis! |
I'd go for that. |
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pio2u Retired Number
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Posted: Mon Mar 03, 2014 9:14 pm Post subject: |
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theunknownsoldier wrote: | epak wrote: | We're going small ball.
Besides, Hill is not that good. |
He's better than Sacre. |
true dat! |
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theunknownsoldier Star Player
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Posted: Mon Mar 03, 2014 9:15 pm Post subject: |
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dont_be_a_wuss wrote: | D'Antoni is playing the Sacre Kelly combination rather than the Hill Kaman combination. He likes the way Sacre sets screens, and the way Kelly spreads the floor compared to Kaman/Hill. Per Dave McMenemit |
Kelly hasn't spread any floor the last bunch of games. It's not like defenses are keying on his shot either. |
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pio2u Retired Number
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Posted: Mon Mar 03, 2014 9:16 pm Post subject: |
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theunknownsoldier wrote: | dont_be_a_wuss wrote: | D'Antoni is playing the Sacre Kelly combination rather than the Hill Kaman combination. He likes the way Sacre sets screens, and the way Kelly spreads the floor compared to Kaman/Hill. Per Dave McMenemit |
Kelly hasn't spread any floor the last bunch of games. It's not like defenses are keying on his shot either. |
Yeah but his PUMP-FAKE is off the charts! |
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Romano338 Star Player
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Posted: Mon Mar 03, 2014 9:21 pm Post subject: |
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What's going on with D'Antoni?
He is very inconsistent in his choices.
Hill will play 5 games, including 3 as a starter, while Kaman plays 0 minute. And suddenly, Hill is benched 4 games and Kaman becomes the #1 option offensively and plays 30 minutes.
And it's like that since the beginning of the season with quite a few players. |
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Don Draper Retired Number
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Posted: Mon Mar 03, 2014 9:22 pm Post subject: |
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In terms of on-floor impact Hill is better than Sacre. But Sacre MIGHT have more upside down the road (hard to believe now, I know), which may be why MDA plays him more? I am not particularly fond of Hill as a player regardless. |
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epak Retired Number
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Posted: Mon Mar 03, 2014 9:27 pm Post subject: |
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pio2u wrote: | mhan00 wrote: | epak wrote: | We're going small ball.
Besides, Hill is not that good. |
Pretty much this. He's not a great scorer, he's not a great defender, he's only average or below average on defensive boards. He's an awesome offensive rebounder, but teams have scouted that and try to keep bodies on him at all times. He's got his niche role, but he's kind of spotty. |
you just described 80% of our whole team minus the rebounds. |
Hill's replacements at the 4: Wes and Kelly actually stretch the floor. |
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