Posted: Thu Mar 20, 2014 11:21 am Post subject: KAJ's record
We are approximately two weeks away from the 30th anniversary of what's commonly heralded as the greatest individual career record in league history.
The record will probably fall one day, but Kareem will have held it for close to 40 years. And there's a good chance it will get broken at the foul line, a tremendous yawn when compared to the majestic skyhook. _________________ Smrek 2, Nevitt 1, Barkley 0
KD is about 24,000 points away. He'd have to average 30 points for roughly 10 years before surpassing it.
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He can also avg 25 a night for roughly 12 years, which would have him breaking it by 37. He's a jumpshooting basketball addict and medical technology will only get better. Barring some major injury he will probably break it.
KD is about 24,000 points away. He'd have to average 30 points for roughly 10 years before surpassing it.
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He can also avg 25 a night for roughly 12 years, which would have him breaking it by 37. He's a jumpshooting basketball addict and medical technology will only get better. Barring some major injury he will probably break it.
No doubt. There's also a chance that Westbrook or he leaves. Say if WEstbrook leaves and they get other players that are more complementary to Durant, we could conceivably see him average 32+ for several years in a row.
The dude shoots around 45% on PULL UP 3'S. That's like Steve Nash. Except the guy is 7 foot!
I wouldn't mind LeBron breaking it once he signs with the lakers
I wouldn't be surprised to see LeBron break it either if he decides to stick around long enough. He does have the 3rd highest avg in league history. I just think Durant would ultimately break his too.
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Posted: Thu Mar 20, 2014 12:59 pm Post subject:
Imagine if Cap couldn't come into the pros straight out of HS or after just one collegiate season.
Way too early, IMHO, to be prognosticating who will break that amazing mark. It's fine to bet on horses but that record is every bit a testament to longevity & good health fortune as it is scoring ability.
I never understand why people get worked up about someone potentially breaking a record in 8-12 years.
The all-time points record is like climbing a mountain that gets steeper with every step you take. As Malone showed, even if you are only seemingly a year or two away, and going at full speed, you can be stopped in your tracks in a moment.
I never understand why people get worked up about someone potentially breaking a record in 8-12 years.
The all-time points record is like climbing a mountain that gets steeper with every step you take. As Malone showed, even if you are only seemingly a year or two away, and going at full speed, you can be stopped in your tracks in a moment.
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Posted: Thu Mar 20, 2014 4:25 pm Post subject:
Pipedream 101: Durant's going to break the record in a Lakers uniform. _________________ "Chick lived and breathed Lakers basketball…but he was also fair and objective and called every game the way it was played."
-from Chick: His Unpublished Memoirs and the Memories of Those Who Knew Him
wont matter if some new era kid breaks it with these soft rules designed to increase scoring by taking away the defenders ability to play solid defense. _________________ LAL4K3RS wrote: He(Kobe) is the white haired kung fu master that you realize is older than dirt but can still kick your arse when in a sitting position drinking a nice herbal tea.
The thing with KAJ is how many years he played.
Ot really how much points he was scoring per game (well, yes but you know what I mean) but for how long.
For example I was wondering if Wilt didn't had a better PPG average. And he had. KAJ is #1 also he because he played for so long.
Crazy consistency over more years than almost any player does, that makes this record very hard to reach
wont matter if some new era kid breaks it with these soft rules designed to increase scoring by taking away the defenders ability to play solid defense.
You have it backwards. If someone breaks the scoring record, it's a huge deal. What won't matter is the tiny number of people who say the record doesn't count because rule changes made it easier to score -- their whines will amount to one grain of sand on the beach.
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Posted: Thu Mar 20, 2014 11:07 pm Post subject: Re: KAJ's record
nevitt_smrek wrote:
We are approximately two weeks away from the 30th anniversary of what's commonly heralded as the greatest individual career record in league history.
The record will probably fall one day, but Kareem will have held it for close to 40 years. And there's a good chance it will get broken at the foul line, a tremendous yawn when compared to the majestic skyhook.
People don't realize how amazing Michael Jordan was. Actually people do, but people often think of KAJ's scoring record as this untouchable thing. If you actually look closely at MJ's career, you would see that he could have broken KAJ's record if that was his goal. They are 6 thousand points apart. Take into account MJ's broken leg in 86, and the two seasons he retired to go chase fly balls and that's the record right there. And what if the league didn't go into a lock-out in 99? The Bulls would have all been back to defend their title. This guy walked away from the game TWICE while he was the best player on the planet. MJ would have shattered 40k easily if that was his goal and he still would have done it under 20 seasons.
Kareem and Malone had to have longevity and stuck around for a long time to be 1 and 2. Michael Jordan nonchalantly arrived at #3.
Posted: Fri Mar 21, 2014 6:53 am Post subject: Re: KAJ's record
Runway8 wrote:
nevitt_smrek wrote:
We are approximately two weeks away from the 30th anniversary of what's commonly heralded as the greatest individual career record in league history.
The record will probably fall one day, but Kareem will have held it for close to 40 years. And there's a good chance it will get broken at the foul line, a tremendous yawn when compared to the majestic skyhook.
People don't realize how amazing Michael Jordan was. Actually people do, but people often think of KAJ's scoring record as this untouchable thing. If you actually look closely at MJ's career, you would see that he could have broken KAJ's record if that was his goal. They are 6 thousand points apart. Take into account MJ's broken leg in 86, and the two seasons he retired to go chase fly balls and that's the record right there. And what if the league didn't go into a lock-out in 99? The Bulls would have all been back to defend their title. This guy walked away from the game TWICE while he was the best player on the planet. MJ would have shattered 40k easily if that was his goal and he still would have done it under 20 seasons.
Kareem and Malone had to have longevity and stuck around for a long time to be 1 and 2. Michael Jordan nonchalantly arrived at #3.
Those breaks arguably helped extend Jordan's career though (the latter two, not the one in 86). Taking 2 seasons off saves mileage. He arguably doesn't play as well at 40 if he didn't get the break in 99.
I can see Durant get the record. He's averaging 27 ppg, has a chance to increase that over time, and his game allows him to play at a high level for a very long time.
Imagine if Cap couldn't come into the pros straight out of HS or after just one collegiate season.
Way too early, IMHO, to be prognosticating who will break that amazing mark. It's fine to bet on horses but that record is every bit a testament to longevity & good health fortune as it is scoring ability.
I would prefer to have Kareem keep that record forever. It feels right for the guy with the greatest shot to be the holder. Perhaps it only seems more vulnerable than it actually is. But today's player's are not only starting earlier but lasting longer. I'm thinking that combination will prove to be just enough.
Once upon a time, believe it or not, it didn't feel as if some of Dan Marino's key records would get broken either. But sports evolve and circumstances change. _________________ Smrek 2, Nevitt 1, Barkley 0
Posted: Fri Mar 21, 2014 12:16 pm Post subject: Re: KAJ's record
Dreamshake wrote:
Runway8 wrote:
nevitt_smrek wrote:
We are approximately two weeks away from the 30th anniversary of what's commonly heralded as the greatest individual career record in league history.
The record will probably fall one day, but Kareem will have held it for close to 40 years. And there's a good chance it will get broken at the foul line, a tremendous yawn when compared to the majestic skyhook.
People don't realize how amazing Michael Jordan was. Actually people do, but people often think of KAJ's scoring record as this untouchable thing. If you actually look closely at MJ's career, you would see that he could have broken KAJ's record if that was his goal. They are 6 thousand points apart. Take into account MJ's broken leg in 86, and the two seasons he retired to go chase fly balls and that's the record right there. And what if the league didn't go into a lock-out in 99? The Bulls would have all been back to defend their title. This guy walked away from the game TWICE while he was the best player on the planet. MJ would have shattered 40k easily if that was his goal and he still would have done it under 20 seasons.
Kareem and Malone had to have longevity and stuck around for a long time to be 1 and 2. Michael Jordan nonchalantly arrived at #3.
Those breaks arguably helped extend Jordan's career though (the latter two, not the one in 86). Taking 2 seasons off saves mileage. He arguably doesn't play as well at 40 if he didn't get the break in 99.
Jordan lost some motivation too. Certain aspects of the game aren't so glamorous, namely travel, hitting the gym, etc. He wanted to do other things as well: baseball, golf, etc. Those breaks were as much mental as physical. _________________ Smrek 2, Nevitt 1, Barkley 0
Lebrons game is built too much on athleticism. Unless he has a transformation to his game where he can still be a top scoring threat through his 30s he will not break it.
Durant has that crazy length and dead eye accuracy, I can see him still able to score a ton after he slows down.
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