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PostPosted: Thu Mar 20, 2014 2:46 pm    Post subject: Strength vs Length

Sorry, mid season boredom is in full swing guys lol.

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Greek Freak
Durant
Brow

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Smart
Maggette
PJ Tucker
Barkley
Ben Wallace

Had to throw a couple of future rooks in there for good measure

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PostPosted: Thu Mar 20, 2014 8:12 pm    Post subject:

Well, considering you choose good length against average strength, length will win.
Where are James or Howard in strength!?!


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PostPosted: Thu Mar 20, 2014 8:16 pm    Post subject:

and finess.

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SG.kobe
SF.pierce
PF.pau
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 21, 2014 8:43 am    Post subject:

Romano338 wrote:
Well, considering you choose good length against average strength, length will win.
Where are James or Howard in strength!?!


Because I was trying to pick guys who were undersized and strong. Might not have done the best job at that lol. Suggest your strength team!

@watchME that team destroys all lol. Make one without HOF players at every position
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 21, 2014 9:50 am    Post subject:

I thought this was one of those topics for the Extenze and Viagra type pills.
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 21, 2014 9:55 am    Post subject:

Why is this "strength and length" post right above the "Jason Collins and gay taunts" post? Strange juxtaposition.
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 21, 2014 10:50 am    Post subject:

TheGOATWears#24 wrote:
I thought this was one of those topics for the Extenze and Viagra type pills.


yinoma2001 wrote:
Why is this "strength and length" post right above the "Jason Collins and gay taunts" post? Strange juxtaposition.




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PostPosted: Fri Mar 21, 2014 11:34 am    Post subject:

watchME wrote:
and finess.

PG.cp3
SG.kobe
SF.pierce
PF.pau
C.duncan


I'd swap out a lot of those guys. Skill=/ finesse.

CP3 and Kobe are strong and powerful guys at their position and play with a bunch of contact. Same with Pierce.


PG = Curry
SG = Reggie Miller
SF = Gervin
PF = Pau
C = Kareem
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 21, 2014 1:38 pm    Post subject:

Romano338 wrote:
Well, considering you choose good length against average strength, length will win.
Where are James or Howard in strength!?!
dwight doesnt use strength properly. so i wont even use him. he uses his hops. when he starts using his strength. he starts offensivel fouling people.
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 03, 2014 9:39 am    Post subject:

REVISED
Dante Exum
Giannis Antetokounmpo
Kevin Durant
Anthony Davis
Joel Embiid

Coach: Phil Jackson

vs

Marcus Smart
Lance Stephenson
Carmelo Anthony
Blake Griffin
Cameron Ridley

Coach: Pat Riley

Who wins head-to-head? And which team would you rather have?
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 03, 2014 9:58 am    Post subject:

I guess this is a rhetorical question again..
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 03, 2014 10:55 am    Post subject:

cathy78 wrote:
I guess this is a rhetorical question again..


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PostPosted: Thu Apr 03, 2014 2:26 pm    Post subject:

22 wrote:
REVISED
Dante Exum
Giannis Antetokounmpo
Kevin Durant
Anthony Davis
Joel Embiid

Coach: Phil Jackson

vs

Marcus Smart
Lance Stephenson
Carmelo Anthony
Blake Griffin
Cameron Ridley

Coach: Pat Riley

Who wins head-to-head? And which team would you rather have?


How come these coaches are on their respective teams?

Anyway, I would pick the length team especially if it had Riley as coach.

The strength team is good but Melo isn't gonna stop Durant. The length team is just too good IMO
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 03, 2014 2:48 pm    Post subject:

Sacreligious wrote:
22 wrote:
REVISED
Dante Exum
Giannis Antetokounmpo
Kevin Durant
Anthony Davis
Joel Embiid

Coach: Phil Jackson

vs

Marcus Smart
Lance Stephenson
Carmelo Anthony
Blake Griffin
Cameron Ridley

Coach: Pat Riley

Who wins head-to-head? And which team would you rather have?


How come these coaches are on their respective teams?

Anyway, I would pick the length team especially if it had Riley as coach.

The strength team is good but Melo isn't gonna stop Durant. The length team is just too good IMO


I assigned the coaches based on the personalities of the repective teams.

I was going back and forth between whether to put Melo or Lebron on the strength team. Would it change your prediction if Lebron was at the 3 on that team?
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 03, 2014 3:05 pm    Post subject:

22 wrote:
Sacreligious wrote:
22 wrote:
REVISED
Dante Exum
Giannis Antetokounmpo
Kevin Durant
Anthony Davis
Joel Embiid

Coach: Phil Jackson

vs

Marcus Smart
Lance Stephenson
Carmelo Anthony
Blake Griffin
Cameron Ridley

Coach: Pat Riley

Who wins head-to-head? And which team would you rather have?


How come these coaches are on their respective teams?

Anyway, I would pick the length team especially if it had Riley as coach.

The strength team is good but Melo isn't gonna stop Durant. The length team is just too good IMO


I assigned the coaches based on the personalities of the repective teams.

I was going back and forth between whether to put Melo or Lebron on the strength team. Would it change your prediction if Lebron was at the 3 on that team?


Ah I see. I actually think that Riley fits the length team more than the strength team.

As for putting lebron on the strength team instead of melo, that would make it a much more competitive contest. But, I do not think Lebron could play with Phil. Lebron isn't a half court player. His jumper is weak but he does have a decent post game. What he excels at is in an uptemo system. A team that focuses on turnovers maximizes lebron's strengths which is transition play. There also isn't enough spacing on the strength team to maximize the drive and kick game with lebron.

I would still pick the length team because of their incredible front court defense (If Embiid pans out), as well as the fact that they have Durant who can score for an entire team. It would be a harder victory, but a victory nonetheless for the length team.
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 04, 2014 5:44 am    Post subject:

Girth is usually preferred over length...at least in the data I've read.
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 04, 2014 7:37 am    Post subject:

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Ah I see. I actually think that Riley fits the length team more than the strength team.

As for putting lebron on the strength team instead of melo, that would make it a much more competitive contest. But, I do not think Lebron could play with Phil. Lebron isn't a half court player. His jumper is weak but he does have a decent post game. What he excels at is in an uptemo system. A team that focuses on turnovers maximizes lebron's strengths which is transition play. There also isn't enough spacing on the strength team to maximize the drive and kick game with lebron.

I would still pick the length team because of their incredible front court defense (If Embiid pans out), as well as the fact that they have Durant who can score for an entire team. It would be a harder victory, but a victory nonetheless for the length team.


Good arguements! That length team would just be able to disrupt everything by hands in the passing lanes and contesting shots. I tend to lean towards them as well.

However if the strength team is successful in pushing them off their spots where they are comfortable offensively and "mucking up" the game a bit I can see them taking it too. You're right that their biggest weakness would be spacing. Not enough shooters.

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Girth is usually preferred over length...at least in the data I've read.


Would you mind sharing? Sounds interesting!
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 13, 2015 8:48 pm    Post subject:

Got bored and came up with two new squads lol

Curry
Durant
Antetekoumpo
Davis
Gobert

Vs

Bledsoe
Butler
James
Randolph
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 13, 2015 9:49 pm    Post subject:

This question is probably better answered by asking, given the exact same skills, would you want a player with the Lebron body type or the Durant body type?
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 13, 2015 9:52 pm    Post subject: Re: Strength vs Length

22 wrote:
Sorry, mid season boredom is in full swing guys lol.

Exum
Ariza
Greek Freak
Durant
Brow

VS

Smart
Maggette
PJ Tucker
Barkley
Ben Wallace

Had to throw a couple of future rooks in there for good measure

Who wins?


Length has more skills.
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 13, 2015 9:54 pm    Post subject:

fiendishoc wrote:
This question is probably better answered by asking, given the exact same skills, would you want a player with the Lebron body type or the Durant body type?


Exact same of what skills? One skill set is more beneficial to a body type than another.
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 13, 2015 10:05 pm    Post subject:

Mike@LG wrote:
fiendishoc wrote:
This question is probably better answered by asking, given the exact same skills, would you want a player with the Lebron body type or the Durant body type?


Exact same of what skills? One skill set is more beneficial to a body type than another.


Let's say we dropped Grant Hill's skills into their bodies and developed from there.
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 14, 2015 2:33 am    Post subject:

You forgot Lamar Odom for length.
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 14, 2015 9:04 am    Post subject:

fiendishoc wrote:
Mike@LG wrote:
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This question is probably better answered by asking, given the exact same skills, would you want a player with the Lebron body type or the Durant body type?


Exact same of what skills? One skill set is more beneficial to a body type than another.


Let's say we dropped Grant Hill's skills into their bodies and developed from there.


LeBron. Hill had a scary first step, a money mid-range jumper, and was especially good at finishing at the rim.
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 14, 2015 10:22 pm    Post subject:

Mike@LG wrote:
fiendishoc wrote:
Mike@LG wrote:
fiendishoc wrote:
This question is probably better answered by asking, given the exact same skills, would you want a player with the Lebron body type or the Durant body type?


Exact same of what skills? One skill set is more beneficial to a body type than another.


Let's say we dropped Grant Hill's skills into their bodies and developed from there.


LeBron. Hill had a scary first step, a money mid-range jumper, and was especially good at finishing at the rim.


Makes sense. What sort of skill development path would you recommend Giannis going after?
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