Why Does Marshon Brooks Not Get Any PT?
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 07, 2014 10:09 am    Post subject:

I would wonder this, as well... except for we have a coach that pushes guys like Chris Kaman and Jordan Hill way to end of the bench when they're producing.
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 07, 2014 3:28 pm    Post subject:

Antoni gotta give some more PT with Baze down. Ridiculous amount of coach's decision DNPs for some players. You might as well showcase as many players as possible now.
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 07, 2014 3:55 pm    Post subject:

I just watched the Linsanity movie and it gave me a little bit of insight into D'antoni.

He's the type of guy that wants to give guys a chance to make it in the NBA. Lin was about to get cut in NY, and D'antoini and his assistants pretty much said that they should give him some burn first. Let him have the opportunity to try to stay in the NBA.

But I also got the impression that if you're already a known quantity he isn't as generous.

Right now, he's giving some guys with good attitudes a chance to earn their next contracts. There are some guys that he's not worried about because he knows they'll still be in the NBA next year if they choose to be.

Then there's probably some people that may not be the best at getting the coach to want to give them the chance.
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 08, 2014 7:37 am    Post subject:

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I just watched the Linsanity movie and it gave me a little bit of insight into D'antoni.

He's the type of guy that wants to give guys a chance to make it in the NBA. Lin was about to get cut in NY, and D'antoini and his assistants pretty much said that they should give him some burn first. Let him have the opportunity to try to stay in the NBA.

But I also got the impression that if you're already a known quantity he isn't as generous.

Right now, he's giving some guys with good attitudes a chance to earn their next contracts. There are some guys that he's not worried about because he knows they'll still be in the NBA next year if they choose to be.

Then there's probably some people that may not be the best at getting the coach to want to give them the chance.
most coaches and execs in the nba are like this. i explained this before. the NBA is a fraternity. for guys not to like you around the league you must be a pretty bad attitude type of guy. its really that simple. most coaches will help you continue your career if you have a good attitude. if they can of course. i mean if you're out of the playoffs. you can get burn with a good attitude. if your chasing a ring. sorry 10th man. you aint seeing the light of day.
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 08, 2014 8:36 am    Post subject:

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Today Mike D'Antoni should have had Marshon in the rotation, if only to prevent others from getting injured. Also it promotes poor chemistry to blatantly not give a guy any run like that. I was disappointed with that decision.
actually no.
think about this for a moment.

our team sucks
we're not going to the playoffs
all of our old guys are hurt so they are not taking your mins
if you're a young player on the lakers. but you're not playing. its YOUR OWN FAULT.

what in the world could brooks have done or not done in practice that puts him in the dog house on a tank team? THink for a moment without your bias for brooks. i like what i think brooks can do as well. but think about that for a moment. how bad is brooks in practice or how bad is his attitude to the point where the coach gives you DNP's on a losing team? that tells me its pretty darn bad. Mitch has always been nice to even camp fodder guys and making sure they get some preseason burn and spl burn. why? so they can get calls from other nba teams. being in the nba is a fraternity. brooks not playing tells me that attitude and effort are not there. and thats a shame. he has the chance of a life time right now. ball hard on a sorry team that is just so happen the biggest franchise in the nba. and everyone will see you and someone will give you a check you dont even deserve because of it. but if you just cant be consistent and your attitude/ effort isnt there. then you deserve to not get any looks.


I know Brooks has a poor attitude and is turnover prone, I said it in one of my earlier posts. But when you only have 7 players on the roster and you still refuse to put a guy in to relieve the other players then that's crossing the line, that's not teamwork. MDA style of play has cause almost every Laker to become injured. And it doesn't help that no matter what team the guy's coaching he's always publicly feuding and alienating his players. We never had that with Phil.. MDA is just being childish
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 08, 2014 4:02 pm    Post subject:

Brooks is not turnover prone. His rate is normal for a backcourt player.
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 08, 2014 4:34 pm    Post subject:

With Lakers...

FG%

1. MarShon Brooks 48.8%
2. Jodie Meeks 45.8%
3. Kent Bazemore 45.1%
4. Jordan Farmar 43%
5. Wesley Johnson 42.9%
6. Nick Young 42.5%
7. Xavier Henry 41.7%
8. Kendal Marshall 40.5%
9. Steve Nash 38%

3-Point FG%

1. MarShon Brooks 64.7%
2. Jordan Farmar 45.7%
3. Kendall Marshall 39.9%
4. Jodie Meeks 39.7%
5. Kent Bazemore 37.1%
6. Nick Young 37%
7. Wesley Johnson 36.7%
8. Xavier Henry 34.6%
9. Steve Nash 30.4%

PER (Player Efficiency Rating)

1. MarShon Brooks 16.6
2. Jordan Farmar 15.9
3. Nick Young 15.1
4. Jodie Meeks 14.5
5. Kent Bazemore 13.5
6. Kendall Marshall 12.5
7. Xavier Henry 12.5
8. Steve Nash 12.0
9. Wesley Johnson 10.9

--ESPN

Guy was never really given much of a chance. A permanent benching after one brief slump is no way to coach. Still tops in efficiency. Just an amazing statistic. PER is a terrific indicator. Brooks will bust out if he ever gets consistent minutes. Needs a coach that will allow him to play through his mistakes. Not be permanently benched over a brief slump. It's probably too late. The damage has been done courtesy of Mike D'Antoni.


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PostPosted: Tue Apr 08, 2014 4:36 pm    Post subject:

D'antoni is why he gets no burn....like a ten year old that wants things his way. Worst Laker coach I ever recall watching.
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 08, 2014 4:43 pm    Post subject:

Why would the lakers give our 6th man of the year in 2015 a chance to leave?

We know he can score, he got the length to work on his D and replace nick next year.
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 08, 2014 10:44 pm    Post subject:

cyclo7 wrote:
With Lakers...

FG%

1. MarShon Brooks 48.8%
2. Jodie Meeks 45.8%
3. Kent Bazemore 45.1%
4. Jordan Farmar 43%
5. Wesley Johnson 42.9%
6. Nick Young 42.5%
7. Xavier Henry 41.7%
8. Kendal Marshall 40.5%
9. Steve Nash 38%

3-Point FG%

1. MarShon Brooks 64.7%
2. Jordan Farmar 45.7%
3. Kendall Marshall 39.9%
4. Jodie Meeks 39.7%
5. Kent Bazemore 37.1%
6. Nick Young 37%
7. Wesley Johnson 36.7%
8. Xavier Henry 34.6%
9. Steve Nash 30.4%

PER (Player Efficiency Rating)

1. MarShon Brooks 16.6
2. Jordan Farmar 15.9
3. Nick Young 15.1
4. Jodie Meeks 14.5
5. Kent Bazemore 13.5
6. Kendall Marshall 12.5
7. Xavier Henry 12.5
8. Steve Nash 12.0
9. Wesley Johnson 10.9

--ESPN

Guy was never really given much of a chance. A permanent benching after one brief slump is no way to coach. Still tops in efficiency. Just an amazing statistic. PER is a terrific indicator. Brooks will bust out if he ever gets consistent minutes. Needs a coach that will allow him to play through his mistakes. Not be permanently benched over a brief slump. It's probably too late. The damage has been done courtesy of Mike D'Antoni.



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PostPosted: Tue Apr 08, 2014 11:16 pm    Post subject:

cyclo7 wrote:
With Lakers...

FG%

1. MarShon Brooks 48.8%
2. Jodie Meeks 45.8%
3. Kent Bazemore 45.1%
4. Jordan Farmar 43%
5. Wesley Johnson 42.9%
6. Nick Young 42.5%
7. Xavier Henry 41.7%
8. Kendal Marshall 40.5%
9. Steve Nash 38%

3-Point FG%

1. MarShon Brooks 64.7%
2. Jordan Farmar 45.7%
3. Kendall Marshall 39.9%
4. Jodie Meeks 39.7%
5. Kent Bazemore 37.1%
6. Nick Young 37%
7. Wesley Johnson 36.7%
8. Xavier Henry 34.6%
9. Steve Nash 30.4%

PER (Player Efficiency Rating)

1. MarShon Brooks 16.6
2. Jordan Farmar 15.9
3. Nick Young 15.1
4. Jodie Meeks 14.5
5. Kent Bazemore 13.5
6. Kendall Marshall 12.5
7. Xavier Henry 12.5
8. Steve Nash 12.0
9. Wesley Johnson 10.9

--ESPN

Guy was never really given much of a chance. A permanent benching after one brief slump is no way to coach. Still tops in efficiency. Just an amazing statistic. PER is a terrific indicator. Brooks will bust out if he ever gets consistent minutes. Needs a coach that will allow him to play through his mistakes. Not be permanently benched over a brief slump. It's probably too late. The damage has been done courtesy of Mike D'Antoni.


I doubt his benching has anything to do with having a slump.
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 09, 2014 8:34 am    Post subject:

cyclo7 wrote:
With Lakers...

FG%

1. MarShon Brooks 48.8%
2. Jodie Meeks 45.8%
3. Kent Bazemore 45.1%
4. Jordan Farmar 43%
5. Wesley Johnson 42.9%
6. Nick Young 42.5%
7. Xavier Henry 41.7%
8. Kendal Marshall 40.5%
9. Steve Nash 38%

3-Point FG%

1. MarShon Brooks 64.7%
2. Jordan Farmar 45.7%
3. Kendall Marshall 39.9%
4. Jodie Meeks 39.7%
5. Kent Bazemore 37.1%
6. Nick Young 37%
7. Wesley Johnson 36.7%
8. Xavier Henry 34.6%
9. Steve Nash 30.4%

PER (Player Efficiency Rating)

1. MarShon Brooks 16.6
2. Jordan Farmar 15.9
3. Nick Young 15.1
4. Jodie Meeks 14.5
5. Kent Bazemore 13.5
6. Kendall Marshall 12.5
7. Xavier Henry 12.5
8. Steve Nash 12.0
9. Wesley Johnson 10.9

--ESPN

Guy was never really given much of a chance. A permanent benching after one brief slump is no way to coach. Still tops in efficiency. Just an amazing statistic. PER is a terrific indicator. Brooks will bust out if he ever gets consistent minutes. Needs a coach that will allow him to play through his mistakes. Not be permanently benched over a brief slump. It's probably too late. The damage has been done courtesy of Mike D'Antoni.


Wow, those numbers are surprising. Stats don't lie.. good point.
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 09, 2014 8:50 am    Post subject:

cyclo7 wrote:
With Lakers...

FG%

1. MarShon Brooks 48.8%
2. Jodie Meeks 45.8%
3. Kent Bazemore 45.1%
4. Jordan Farmar 43%
5. Wesley Johnson 42.9%
6. Nick Young 42.5%
7. Xavier Henry 41.7%
8. Kendal Marshall 40.5%
9. Steve Nash 38%

3-Point FG%

1. MarShon Brooks 64.7%
2. Jordan Farmar 45.7%
3. Kendall Marshall 39.9%
4. Jodie Meeks 39.7%
5. Kent Bazemore 37.1%
6. Nick Young 37%
7. Wesley Johnson 36.7%
8. Xavier Henry 34.6%
9. Steve Nash 30.4%

PER (Player Efficiency Rating)

1. MarShon Brooks 16.6
2. Jordan Farmar 15.9
3. Nick Young 15.1
4. Jodie Meeks 14.5
5. Kent Bazemore 13.5
6. Kendall Marshall 12.5
7. Xavier Henry 12.5
8. Steve Nash 12.0
9. Wesley Johnson 10.9

--ESPN

Guy was never really given much of a chance. A permanent benching after one brief slump is no way to coach. Still tops in efficiency. Just an amazing statistic. PER is a terrific indicator. Brooks will bust out if he ever gets consistent minutes. Needs a coach that will allow him to play through his mistakes. Not be permanently benched over a brief slump. It's probably too late. The damage has been done courtesy of Mike D'Antoni.
dont lie to make a point. brooks got his shot, did well very early. and start playing a really bad brand of basketball after that. it didnt get better. it got progressively worse. it wasnt just missed shots. it was horrific passes being thrown. bad defense. all of it.

and because he plays in a smoother slower pace. it will always look like he's going half speed. thats not helping his cause either.

and i believe the guy probably has an attitude problem. there's no way you dont get burn when you are on a team thats this sorry and have this many hurt guys. if you cant get off the bench and we know you have talent. then your attitude SUCKS.
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 09, 2014 8:54 am    Post subject:

stats do lie. Mark Twain said it best, " there are lies, damn lies, and then there's statistics"
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 09, 2014 11:17 am    Post subject:

I'm assuming because he is not coming back next year and Brazemore was or is (before Braze got hurt).
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 09, 2014 11:25 am    Post subject:

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stats do lie. Mark Twain said it best, " there are lies, damn lies, and then there's statistics"


Yep. Freshman year I went 100% from the field. Those are all-conference stats right? Nope, 2 for 2 with way too many turnovers.

Brooks in not NBA ready. I dislike MDA as much as the next guy, but not playing Brooks much is just reality.
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 09, 2014 12:14 pm    Post subject:

Another dumb move by Mr. over work everybody until your hurt.
He pretty much has to play him now.....why???? because almost the entire team is hurt.
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 09, 2014 1:01 pm    Post subject:

cyclo7 wrote:
With Lakers...

FG%

1. MarShon Brooks 48.8%
2. Jodie Meeks 45.8%
3. Kent Bazemore 45.1%
4. Jordan Farmar 43%
5. Wesley Johnson 42.9%
6. Nick Young 42.5%
7. Xavier Henry 41.7%
8. Kendal Marshall 40.5%
9. Steve Nash 38%

3-Point FG%

1. MarShon Brooks 64.7%
2. Jordan Farmar 45.7%
3. Kendall Marshall 39.9%
4. Jodie Meeks 39.7%
5. Kent Bazemore 37.1%
6. Nick Young 37%
7. Wesley Johnson 36.7%
8. Xavier Henry 34.6%
9. Steve Nash 30.4%

PER (Player Efficiency Rating)

1. MarShon Brooks 16.6
2. Jordan Farmar 15.9
3. Nick Young 15.1
4. Jodie Meeks 14.5
5. Kent Bazemore 13.5
6. Kendall Marshall 12.5
7. Xavier Henry 12.5
8. Steve Nash 12.0
9. Wesley Johnson 10.9

--ESPN

Guy was never really given much of a chance. A permanent benching after one brief slump is no way to coach. Still tops in efficiency. Just an amazing statistic. PER is a terrific indicator. Brooks will bust out if he ever gets consistent minutes. Needs a coach that will allow him to play through his mistakes. Not be permanently benched over a brief slump. It's probably too late. The damage has been done courtesy of Mike D'Antoni.


Um, sample size?

Also, PER is a terrible statistic. Brooks doesn't play because he's among the worst defenders in the league, and because every time he touches the ball he sprints full-speed toward the hoop and chucks a shot.
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 09, 2014 3:34 pm    Post subject:

SunshineMan89 wrote:
cyclo7 wrote:
With Lakers...

FG%

1. MarShon Brooks 48.8%
2. Jodie Meeks 45.8%
3. Kent Bazemore 45.1%
4. Jordan Farmar 43%
5. Wesley Johnson 42.9%
6. Nick Young 42.5%
7. Xavier Henry 41.7%
8. Kendal Marshall 40.5%
9. Steve Nash 38%

3-Point FG%

1. MarShon Brooks 64.7%
2. Jordan Farmar 45.7%
3. Kendall Marshall 39.9%
4. Jodie Meeks 39.7%
5. Kent Bazemore 37.1%
6. Nick Young 37%
7. Wesley Johnson 36.7%
8. Xavier Henry 34.6%
9. Steve Nash 30.4%

PER (Player Efficiency Rating)

1. MarShon Brooks 16.6
2. Jordan Farmar 15.9
3. Nick Young 15.1
4. Jodie Meeks 14.5
5. Kent Bazemore 13.5
6. Kendall Marshall 12.5
7. Xavier Henry 12.5
8. Steve Nash 12.0
9. Wesley Johnson 10.9

--ESPN

Guy was never really given much of a chance. A permanent benching after one brief slump is no way to coach. Still tops in efficiency. Just an amazing statistic. PER is a terrific indicator. Brooks will bust out if he ever gets consistent minutes. Needs a coach that will allow him to play through his mistakes. Not be permanently benched over a brief slump. It's probably too late. The damage has been done courtesy of Mike D'Antoni.


Um, sample size?

Also, PER is a terrible statistic. Brooks doesn't play because he's among the worst defenders in the league, and because every time he touches the ball he sprints full-speed toward the hoop and chucks a shot.


I think that he really might be the one of the worst Lakers players ever.
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 09, 2014 4:59 pm    Post subject:

the benching is so senseless that it has people coming up with theories about marshon brooks having a bad personality, even when there is absolutely no proof of this....



it's quite obvious that d'antoni has some form of retardation. which one, i have yet to put my finger on...but it's obvious
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 09, 2014 5:00 pm    Post subject:

postandpivot wrote:
cyclo7 wrote:
With Lakers...

FG%

1. MarShon Brooks 48.8%
2. Jodie Meeks 45.8%
3. Kent Bazemore 45.1%
4. Jordan Farmar 43%
5. Wesley Johnson 42.9%
6. Nick Young 42.5%
7. Xavier Henry 41.7%
8. Kendal Marshall 40.5%
9. Steve Nash 38%

3-Point FG%

1. MarShon Brooks 64.7%
2. Jordan Farmar 45.7%
3. Kendall Marshall 39.9%
4. Jodie Meeks 39.7%
5. Kent Bazemore 37.1%
6. Nick Young 37%
7. Wesley Johnson 36.7%
8. Xavier Henry 34.6%
9. Steve Nash 30.4%

PER (Player Efficiency Rating)

1. MarShon Brooks 16.6
2. Jordan Farmar 15.9
3. Nick Young 15.1
4. Jodie Meeks 14.5
5. Kent Bazemore 13.5
6. Kendall Marshall 12.5
7. Xavier Henry 12.5
8. Steve Nash 12.0
9. Wesley Johnson 10.9

--ESPN

Guy was never really given much of a chance. A permanent benching after one brief slump is no way to coach. Still tops in efficiency. Just an amazing statistic. PER is a terrific indicator. Brooks will bust out if he ever gets consistent minutes. Needs a coach that will allow him to play through his mistakes. Not be permanently benched over a brief slump. It's probably too late. The damage has been done courtesy of Mike D'Antoni.
dont lie to make a point. brooks got his shot, did well very early. and start playing a really bad brand of basketball after that. it didnt get better. it got progressively worse. it wasnt just missed shots. it was horrific passes being thrown. bad defense. all of it.

and because he plays in a smoother slower pace. it will always look like he's going half speed. thats not helping his cause either.

and i believe the guy probably has an attitude problem. there's no way you dont get burn when you are on a team thats this sorry and have this many hurt guys. if you cant get off the bench and we know you have talent. then your attitude SUCKS.



so does this mean jordan hill and chris kaman have bad attitudes too? LOL


either provide proof, or stop makin stuff up to defend d'antonio's retardation.
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 09, 2014 5:05 pm    Post subject:

youcantguardme wrote:
SunshineMan89 wrote:
cyclo7 wrote:
With Lakers...

FG%

1. MarShon Brooks 48.8%
2. Jodie Meeks 45.8%
3. Kent Bazemore 45.1%
4. Jordan Farmar 43%
5. Wesley Johnson 42.9%
6. Nick Young 42.5%
7. Xavier Henry 41.7%
8. Kendal Marshall 40.5%
9. Steve Nash 38%

3-Point FG%

1. MarShon Brooks 64.7%
2. Jordan Farmar 45.7%
3. Kendall Marshall 39.9%
4. Jodie Meeks 39.7%
5. Kent Bazemore 37.1%
6. Nick Young 37%
7. Wesley Johnson 36.7%
8. Xavier Henry 34.6%
9. Steve Nash 30.4%

PER (Player Efficiency Rating)

1. MarShon Brooks 16.6
2. Jordan Farmar 15.9
3. Nick Young 15.1
4. Jodie Meeks 14.5
5. Kent Bazemore 13.5
6. Kendall Marshall 12.5
7. Xavier Henry 12.5
8. Steve Nash 12.0
9. Wesley Johnson 10.9

--ESPN

Guy was never really given much of a chance. A permanent benching after one brief slump is no way to coach. Still tops in efficiency. Just an amazing statistic. PER is a terrific indicator. Brooks will bust out if he ever gets consistent minutes. Needs a coach that will allow him to play through his mistakes. Not be permanently benched over a brief slump. It's probably too late. The damage has been done courtesy of Mike D'Antoni.


Um, sample size?

Also, PER is a terrible statistic. Brooks doesn't play because he's among the worst defenders in the league, and because every time he touches the ball he sprints full-speed toward the hoop and chucks a shot.


I think that he really might be the one of the worst Lakers players ever.









do yall even watch basketball?
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 09, 2014 5:08 pm    Post subject:

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the benching is so senseless that it has people coming up with theories about marshon brooks having a bad personality, even when there is absolutely no proof of this....



it's quite obvious that d'antoni has some form of retardation. which one, i have yet to put my finger on...but it's obvious


Brooks has had trouble getting off the bench for other teams.
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 09, 2014 5:15 pm    Post subject:

Why do we care? His Laker career will end in 4 games.
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Why do we care? His Laker career will end in 4 games.


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