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PostPosted: Tue Apr 08, 2014 6:47 pm    Post subject: Calipari vs Ollie

Seems like the consensus is Ollie would be the better choice but I'm not to familiar with either. Why Ollie over Calipari? Pretend like youre Mitch explaining to Jim what to do... or does Mitch need to do reverse psychology to try to get him to do the right thing?
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 08, 2014 6:54 pm    Post subject:

Only college coach I'd be interested in is coach K.
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 08, 2014 7:14 pm    Post subject:

STiG909 wrote:
Only college coach I'd be interested in is coach K.

Sorry to burst your bubble but not happening...
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 08, 2014 7:14 pm    Post subject:

I would prefer either over the typical retreads who routinely get fired. I like that both have good defensive schemes, and while we haven't seen enough of Ollie to say, Calipari has shown he can adjust his systems to his players strengths.
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 08, 2014 7:15 pm    Post subject:

Ollie, but knowing Jimbo he keep MDA or hire another idiot as our coach like Mike Dunleavy because he has a sick fettish with guys name Mike. Don't get your hope up.
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 08, 2014 7:30 pm    Post subject:

Calipari did a stint in the NBA, failed attempt. If I were Ollie I stay with UCONN, it's safer. NBA egos can cause high blood pressure.
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 08, 2014 7:36 pm    Post subject:

I'd rather get Stan Van Gundy or George Karl
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 08, 2014 7:36 pm    Post subject:

jodeke wrote:
Calipari did a stint in the NBA, failed attempt. If I were Ollie I stay with UCONN, it's safer. NBA egos can cause high blood pressure.


To be fair to Calipari, that was in the 90's.
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 08, 2014 8:27 pm    Post subject:

Anyone is better than MDA.
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 08, 2014 8:28 pm    Post subject:

Calipari is real underrated as a coach. He gets too much flack for supposedly dirty recruiting and for recruiting all the one-and-done's but his teams have always had success. He's a pretty "hip" guy who could definitely relate to the NBA players of today.
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 08, 2014 8:48 pm    Post subject:

What's the reason to go after these college coaches? For recruiting NBA players or truly because of their coaching ability? If the latter, I think it's been shown over the years that good to great college coaches don't always pan out as good NBA coaches. I much rather the Lakers pursue a proven NBA coach who can build rapport and respect with the team (Van Gundy - either one, BScott are the few that come to mind).
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 08, 2014 9:13 pm    Post subject:

Gotta go with Calapari: Italian-American, head coach for the University of Kentucky basketball program, sorta like Rick Pitino. And look how much Rick helped the Celtics.
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 08, 2014 9:19 pm    Post subject:

ronnyjeremy wrote:
Ollie, but knowing Jimbo he keep MDA or hire another idiot as our coach like Mike Dunleavy because he has a sick fettish with guys name Mike. Don't get your hope up.


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PostPosted: Tue Apr 08, 2014 10:21 pm    Post subject:

I wouldn't want stan van gundy as our coach his voice is annoying, our players will tune him out after a short while.
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 08, 2014 10:42 pm    Post subject:

Both are great communicators and seem to very good teachers. If game is predicated on pt guard play, then it is better to go w/ Calipari since he has a lot of experience in that department. The reason I would pick Ollie is b/c of his connection to Durant, he's young and can grow w/ next generation of stars on the team, he has experience w/ young & older stars and commands respect from players among other reasons.
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 09, 2014 1:24 am    Post subject:

I think Calipari could still be a successful coach in the NBA given the right circumstances. However, if you're the Lakers, why do you want to spend what it's going to cost to get him? It doesn't make sense, unless you think coaching was the ONLY problem the Lakers had.

Calipari, especially given his age, is the kind of big name coach you get when most of the player pieces are already in place. I'm guessing it'll probably cost about $6 million a year and a long commitment to get him. You could hire Rambis to coach for half of that, and for a shorter period, while the team is rebuilding. You just want the team to improve each year for the next few years while you slowly acquire talent.

I don't think Calipari would be a failure as a coach (although I was wrong about D'Antoni), but if the team is not going to be good enough to contend anyway, what's the point of spending all that money? Calipari will be viewed as another bad hire even if it isn't his fault, and again it will be expensive.
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 09, 2014 3:24 am    Post subject:

If your just looking for an argument of why to hire Ollie:

Cal already failed in the nba
Ollie has nba experience...as a player, which translates well to coaching
Ollie just beat Cal for NCAA championship
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 09, 2014 3:25 am    Post subject:

Ollie pls
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 09, 2014 3:28 am    Post subject:

I think a College coach will be fine, we are in full rebuild mode in a couple of years. It will give the new coach experience with vets when the next icon is drafted and becomes a vet. Besides when was the last Laker rebuild that went well....Magic, worthy, scott, Kareem
looking back seems nice. oh yea the coach was an announcer Mr Pat Riley

No more retreads...please
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 09, 2014 4:30 am    Post subject:

At this point I'd be okay with either one of them.
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 09, 2014 5:33 am    Post subject:

ElginBaylor wrote:
At this point I'd be okay with either one of them.


+1

I'd prefer Ollie, but I'll be happy with Calipari too.
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 09, 2014 6:54 am    Post subject:

Ollie is too inexperienced to be trying to take over the Lakers at this point. Calipari is overrated... his teams are good because they are stacked with talent.
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 09, 2014 6:55 am    Post subject:

Because Kevin Ollie has Kevin Durant's utmost respect.
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 09, 2014 6:57 am    Post subject:

audioaxes wrote:
Ollie is too inexperienced to be trying to take over the Lakers at this point. Calipari is overrated... his teams are good because they are stacked with talent.


Inexperienced in what? While the traditional route is being an assistant coach for what...5-10 years...there have been lots of out-of-box coaches who have succeeded. Ollie has been a de facto NBA assistant for over 10 years IMO. He's been a head coach for 2 years, 2 years as an assistant under Calhoun. He basically knows half of the NBA's front offices/teams, knows countless playbooks, is respected by today's NBA players, etc.
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 09, 2014 8:57 am    Post subject:

Neither.

Calipari wins by dumbing down very simple principles for 18-19 year olds who have no experience playing with each other but are physically dominant over their opponents. Nothing wrong with that but it's just the nature of the beast. He's not too far off from being an incredibly well paid and glorified AAU coach. Which is why he failed at the nba level and his team couldn't make the tournament last year after Noel went down and why his team was a huge disappointment all year until March. (Very simple and general assessment but valid IMO).

Ollie. While doing a great job with what he had, he was doing it with experienced Calhoun leftovers who he had already been coaching in Calhoun's system. I absolutely cannot see Kobe respecting/buying into any system that is implemented by someone so young with no real bona fides/experience in Kobe's eyes.
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