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Sccit
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 Posted: Wed Apr 09, 2014 4:55 pm Post subject: Revisiting the vetoed trade for Chris Paul... |
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| I was curious regarding the opinions around here...we all know about the deal that brought cp3 to the lakers and immediately got vetoed. sad day in laker history...but my question is, which package for cp3 do u think was actually better. was it the clipper package revolving around eric gordon, or was it our package revolving around pau? tell me which u feel was actually the better deal and explain why............. |
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| Posted: Wed Apr 09, 2014 5:09 pm Post subject: Re: Revisiting the vetoed trade for Chris Paul... |
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| Sccit wrote: | | I was curious regarding the opinions around here...we all know about the deal that brought cp3 to the lakers and immediately got vetoed. sad day in laker history...but my question is, which package for cp3 do u think was actually better. was it the clipper package revolving around eric gordon, or was it our package revolving around pau? tell me which u feel was actually the better deal and explain why............. |
Ours.
Clippers trade made them worse yes, but assuming they win the lottery that year anyways they'd have Dragic and Davis. |
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Get over it, many of us have, he's really not that big a deal IMO, cause he isn't going to win a Chip for Clips anyways!!!
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| Posted: Wed Apr 09, 2014 5:17 pm Post subject: |
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The league's goal was to sell the team, they did after the Clipper trade, so it worked out well for them.
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lets not revisit this.
Set us back 5 years in my opinion, but lets just keep moving forward. Hopefully over sooner than later. |
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For those worried about Mitch, the fact that he shot holes in the small markets new CBA as it was being signed should settle you down. The fact that it angered so many small market owners tells us how good of a job Mitch did.
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In hindsight, the Clippers offer was superior. Under our deal, the Hornets would have gotten Odom, Dragic, Scola, and Martin, plus a first round pick from the Rockets. With the benefit of 20/20 hindsight, we know that Odom was done. Scola has declined since then, as has Martin. Dragic has been good for Phoenix this year, but in hindsight our deal would have given them Dragic, a first round pick from Houston, and some spare parts.
We didn't know all of that at the time. Back then, I thought the Hornets got shafted when the league vetoed the deal. Odom was coming off a pretty good year, after all.
The Hornets didn't get a lot of value from the Pelicans, either, but they didn't wind up with Odom and a load of salary obligations. |
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| 27 wrote: | lets not revisit this.
Set us back 5 years in my opinion, but lets just keep moving forward. Hopefully over sooner than later. |
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| Posted: Wed Apr 09, 2014 6:21 pm Post subject: |
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Adele Dazeem called... she said: LET IT GOOOO!
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Let's not forget that wink wink, totally lucky top pick.
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| Would anyone really even suggest that it was a good trade for the Hornets if they didn't "luck" into Anthony Davis? Eric Gordon was the center piece of that trade by the clippers, and he's been extremely injury prone. Good thing for the new owners that they were lucky enough to get the first pick, huh? |
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Eric Gordon
Chris Kaman
Al-Faroqu Aminu
2012 1st rd draft pick from the Minnesota Timberwolves (10th) = Austin Rivers
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Lamar Odom (from LA Lakers)
Kevin Martin (from HOU Rockets)
Luis Scola (from HOU Rockets)
Goran Dragic (from HOU Rockets)
Looking back, the Hornets gave away CP3 to the Clippers.
I get you are trying to tank and not be average, but as a league, how do you promote that?
If the draft wasn't rigged, imagine where the Hornets would be if they didn't get Anthony Davis with the #1 pick?
Stern really worked some magic on this one.
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Stuck Fern.. Now I'm all riled up again............ 
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| venturalakersfan wrote: | | For those worried about Mitch, the fact that he shot holes in the small markets new CBA as it was being signed should settle you down. The fact that it angered so many small market owners tells us how good of a job Mitch did. |
Yeah. Just wish he kept his powder dry until after the owners convened. |
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| venturalakersfan wrote: | | The league's goal was to sell the team, they did after the Clipper trade, so it worked out well for them. |
thats the wrong way to think about it. you cant make that statement without saying are you sure the team would not have sold if they had a much better roster and fans with their butts in seats because their team looks like a playoff team or close to it.
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| Free_Kobe wrote: | | Adele Dazeem called... she said: LET IT GOOOO! |
this mentality of let it go is hilarious to me. especially on LG.
Let go of the fact small market owners cried to stern to make him change our deal that wouldve placed us back in the hunt for years. now we're out of the hunt for a years.
but we should let all of that Go, while still crying about how we hate jim and mda?
its okay to go ON and ON and ON about jim buss and mda but its not okay to go on and on about something we know for a fact put us in this predicament? doesnt make sense folks. if you can cry about mda and jim. i darn sure can cry about what stern, dan gilbert/cuban/jordan did to us.
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| Clippers deal was better. Great draft pick, Eric Gordon, Kaman. |
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| The real question is, if that trade had gone through would it have saved mike brown's job? |
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The trade was an extension of the new CBA and NBA owners trying to help small market teams out. After all, the vetoed trade for "basketball reasons" kept CP3 from going to big market Los Angeles, right?
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Where did you get that avatar
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| postandpivot wrote: | | venturalakersfan wrote: | | The league's goal was to sell the team, they did after the Clipper trade, so it worked out well for them. |
thats the wrong way to think about it. you cant make that statement without saying are you sure the team would not have sold if they had a much better roster and fans with their butts in seats because their team looks like a playoff team or close to it. |
That "much better roster" would still be a losing team but with a higher payroll, compared to bottom team with a #1 pick on the way. Buyers would rather purchase a team they can build rather than a mediocre team with a higher payroll. Remember, they don't make money every year like the Lakers - they make money when they sell the team years later. |
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| Awesome thread! |
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