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WindyCityLakerFan
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| postandpivot wrote: | | silkwilkes wrote: | Don't we have enough young athletic players that were recent lottery of first round picks? Second round picks are even more of an unknown. I think we have plenty with Johnson, Henry, Kelly, Marshall, Bazemore, etc. We don't need 2nd round picks lol. With the new CBA and the fact that kids come out at the age of 19, you'll always have plenty of 22-23 yo kids that teams don't want to extend with 1st round money.
Makes 2nd round picks even more irrelevant with the new CBA. |
exactly. we have more then enough 2nd round talented that are already on our team right now. we can sign X, bazemore and kendall.
you know exactly what those 3 are giving you. unlike kid fresh out of college in the 2nd round. |
It's not about having second round talent it's about finding the first round talent that falls to the second round. I think someone posted that the year arenas was drafted the lakers were trying to aquire a pick to draft him after they had traded the first rounder away. |
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| Posted: Wed Apr 16, 2014 12:43 pm Post subject: |
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| ElginBaylor wrote: | | Because second rounders have worked out so well for us in the past. |
hey Ryan Kelly is not bad!
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| If the Lakers want a 2nd rounder, trust me, they can always buy it. In fact, if a team with a high payroll at the end of round 1, who does not wanna add another guaranteed contract, they will likely sell, or deal their late 1st for the Lakers very protected future 1st rounder. So if Mitch has his sights set on a player in that area, he can get him. |
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The Shadow King
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| Posted: Wed Apr 16, 2014 1:44 pm Post subject: |
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I honestly don't watch college ball. Can someone please tell me if this draft is as deep as the one Dwayne Wade came out of?
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thetruthteller
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| Posted: Wed Apr 16, 2014 1:47 pm Post subject: |
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| Faceman wrote: | | I honestly don't watch college ball. Can someone please tell me if this draft is as deep as the one Dwayne Wade came out of? |
In my opinion, Yes. In fact, I think there are more question ? regarding the top tier prospects then a lot of the lower ones. I mean yes, we all love the potential upside of a Wiggins, Parker, Embiid, ect. But lower prospects, like Payne, Mcdaniels, Napier, and a ton of players I love that project in round 2 I would love to get a hold of. |
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venturalakersfan
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| Posted: Wed Apr 16, 2014 4:11 pm Post subject: |
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| thetruthteller wrote: | | If the Lakers want a 2nd rounder, trust me, they can always buy it. In fact, if a team with a high payroll at the end of round 1, who does not wanna add another guaranteed contract, they will likely sell, or deal their late 1st for the Lakers very protected future 1st rounder. So if Mitch has his sights set on a player in that area, he can get him. |
Maybe someone like OKC, the draft pick will put them up against the luxury tax, so I could see them dealing it for cash.
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thetruthteller
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| venturalakersfan wrote: | | thetruthteller wrote: | | If the Lakers want a 2nd rounder, trust me, they can always buy it. In fact, if a team with a high payroll at the end of round 1, who does not wanna add another guaranteed contract, they will likely sell, or deal their late 1st for the Lakers very protected future 1st rounder. So if Mitch has his sights set on a player in that area, he can get him. |
Maybe someone like OKC, the draft pick will put them up against the luxury tax, so I could see them dealing it for cash. |
I agree with your point on OKC being up against the Cap next season. But what worries me is that a team like the Sixers, who are under the Cap right now, will on draft night trade for their 1st rounder and agree to take back a higher salaried player, like say Perkins. With Adams emerging like he is, OKC may want to get rid of Perkins high salary next season, and get well below the LT. |
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VegasLakerFan
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| Posted: Wed Apr 16, 2014 5:04 pm Post subject: |
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We're freaking out about second round picks now? The Lakers could probably buy a second round pick for like $500K, what's the big deal? |
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JoJo Dancer
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| Posted: Wed Apr 16, 2014 5:18 pm Post subject: |
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| VegasLakerFan wrote: |
We're freaking out about second round picks now? The Lakers could probably buy a second round pick for like $500K, what's the big deal? |
not a high 2nd which is what we traded away. |
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It's finally over!
Going out with a win!
Worst Season Ever though.
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| Posted: Wed Apr 16, 2014 5:27 pm Post subject: |
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| JoJo Dancer wrote: | | VegasLakerFan wrote: |
We're freaking out about second round picks now? The Lakers could probably buy a second round pick for like $500K, what's the big deal? |
not a high 2nd which is what we traded away. |
Sure they can. Second rounders get traded all the time, high and low. |
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JoJo Dancer
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| VegasLakerFan wrote: | | JoJo Dancer wrote: | | VegasLakerFan wrote: |
We're freaking out about second round picks now? The Lakers could probably buy a second round pick for like $500K, what's the big deal? |
not a high 2nd which is what we traded away. |
Sure they can. Second rounders get traded all the time, high and low. |
Not for 500k they don't |
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| Posted: Wed Apr 16, 2014 5:31 pm Post subject: |
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| JoJo Dancer wrote: | | VegasLakerFan wrote: | | JoJo Dancer wrote: | | VegasLakerFan wrote: |
We're freaking out about second round picks now? The Lakers could probably buy a second round pick for like $500K, what's the big deal? |
not a high 2nd which is what we traded away. |
Sure they can. Second rounders get traded all the time, high and low. |
Not for 500k they don't |
Ok - for a few mil. |
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JoJo Dancer
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| Posted: Wed Apr 16, 2014 5:33 pm Post subject: |
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| VegasLakerFan wrote: | | JoJo Dancer wrote: | | VegasLakerFan wrote: | | JoJo Dancer wrote: | | VegasLakerFan wrote: |
We're freaking out about second round picks now? The Lakers could probably buy a second round pick for like $500K, what's the big deal? |
not a high 2nd which is what we traded away. |
Sure they can. Second rounders get traded all the time, high and low. |
Not for 500k they don't |
Ok - for a few mil. |
Exactly. Jimbo is not paying 2 mill for a 2nd Rd pick. |
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VegasLakerFan
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| Posted: Wed Apr 16, 2014 5:34 pm Post subject: |
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| JoJo Dancer wrote: | | VegasLakerFan wrote: | | JoJo Dancer wrote: | | VegasLakerFan wrote: | | JoJo Dancer wrote: | | VegasLakerFan wrote: |
We're freaking out about second round picks now? The Lakers could probably buy a second round pick for like $500K, what's the big deal? |
not a high 2nd which is what we traded away. |
Sure they can. Second rounders get traded all the time, high and low. |
Not for 500k they don't |
Ok - for a few mil. |
Exactly. Jimbo is not paying 2 mill for a 2nd Rd pick. |
Why not? |
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thetruthteller
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| Posted: Wed Apr 16, 2014 5:38 pm Post subject: |
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| VegasLakerFan wrote: | | JoJo Dancer wrote: | | VegasLakerFan wrote: |
We're freaking out about second round picks now? The Lakers could probably buy a second round pick for like $500K, what's the big deal? |
not a high 2nd which is what we traded away. |
Sure they can. Second rounders get traded all the time, high and low. |
In past drafts maybe so. But thinking a team in the 31-40 range will sell their 2nd is highly doubtful. And if they do, they will either likely do it for a lot more money then in the past, or they will force a team to take a bad contract back. |
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| Posted: Wed Apr 16, 2014 5:41 pm Post subject: |
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| thetruthteller wrote: | | VegasLakerFan wrote: | | JoJo Dancer wrote: | | VegasLakerFan wrote: |
We're freaking out about second round picks now? The Lakers could probably buy a second round pick for like $500K, what's the big deal? |
not a high 2nd which is what we traded away. |
Sure they can. Second rounders get traded all the time, high and low. |
In past drafts maybe so. But thinking a team in the 31-40 range will sell their 2nd is highly doubtful. And if they do, they will either likely do it for a lot more money then in the past, or they will force a team to take a bad contract back. |
I guess we'll see. I think second rounders are being overvalued here, but I guess what teams actually do going forward will determine if I'm full of it or not. |
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| Posted: Wed Apr 16, 2014 7:27 pm Post subject: |
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| thetruthteller wrote: | | venturalakersfan wrote: | | thetruthteller wrote: | | If the Lakers want a 2nd rounder, trust me, they can always buy it. In fact, if a team with a high payroll at the end of round 1, who does not wanna add another guaranteed contract, they will likely sell, or deal their late 1st for the Lakers very protected future 1st rounder. So if Mitch has his sights set on a player in that area, he can get him. |
Maybe someone like OKC, the draft pick will put them up against the luxury tax, so I could see them dealing it for cash. |
I agree with your point on OKC being up against the Cap next season. But what worries me is that a team like the Sixers, who are under the Cap right now, will on draft night trade for their 1st rounder and agree to take back a higher salaried player, like say Perkins. With Adams emerging like he is, OKC may want to get rid of Perkins high salary next season, and get well below the LT. |
We could do that as well if the deal is structured after July 1.
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MickMgl
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| Posted: Thu Apr 17, 2014 12:49 am Post subject: |
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| pmacla wrote: | | KobeDunk wrote: | | can't they buy a 2nd rounder? |
yea they paid Dallas 500k for the DJO pick a few years back |
Not all 2nd-rounders are equal. You can buy a #55 (DJO) cheap enough, but a pick in the top ten spots of the 2nd round (top 40 overall) still has a pretty good chance of producing a keeper. Teams aren't just going to sell those. |
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