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Runway8 Franchise Player
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Posted: Fri May 16, 2014 9:36 pm Post subject: |
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You know the saying when it rains, it pours? There are peaks and valleys in every franchise, and my gut says it is still pouring. Mr. Momentum is still not wearing a Lakers jersey, and no matter what pick we have from 1 to 9, if we deal that pick, that pick will turn out to be a stud, while Kevin Love struggles to play 50 games. The trade will be added to the long list of Jim Buss complaints.
Lakers need to keep the pick. |
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scoobs Star Player
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Posted: Tue May 20, 2014 7:38 pm Post subject: |
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Eric, now that we know the Lakers have the 7th pick, what do you think will happen? |
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emplay Site Staff
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Posted: Tue May 20, 2014 8:05 pm Post subject: |
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most likely they draft someone like Gordon or Smart - but we'll see _________________ Salary Cap Strategist and Columnist at Bleacher Report and on Twitter at http://www.twitter.com/EricPincus |
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scoobs Star Player
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Posted: Tue May 20, 2014 9:25 pm Post subject: |
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What do you think of trading Nash and 7th pick for Irving and Gee? |
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emplay Site Staff
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Posted: Tue May 20, 2014 9:59 pm Post subject: |
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i think you're high - no offense _________________ Salary Cap Strategist and Columnist at Bleacher Report and on Twitter at http://www.twitter.com/EricPincus |
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daygoboy6191 Starting Rotation
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Posted: Wed May 21, 2014 12:05 pm Post subject: |
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I think we need to use our pick and draft the BPA, but I'm looking at mocks and possibly trading back a few spots and getting two pick might be something we should consider. Our roster is basically Kobe, and I think we should cut Nash which will basically cut his salary down over a couple years.
This is how I would approach the off-season.
Cut
Nash
Must Get Guys
Greg Monroe Or Martin Gortat
Lance Stephenson
Need to look at bringing back
Nick Young
Ryan Kelly
Xavier Henry
Look to acquire if the price is right
Ed Davis
Al-Farouq Aminu
Jan Vesely
Earl Clark
Draft
Aaron Gordon or Noah Vonleh
Starting Lineup
PG: Lance Stephenson
SG: Kobe Bryant
SF:?
PF: Aaron Gordon or Noah Vonleh
C: Greg Monroe or Martin Gortat |
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scoobs Star Player
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Posted: Wed May 21, 2014 2:39 pm Post subject: |
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daygoboy6191 wrote: | I think we need to use our pick and draft the BPA, but I'm looking at mocks and possibly trading back a few spots and getting two pick might be something we should consider. Our roster is basically Kobe, and I think we should cut Nash which will basically cut his salary down over a couple years.
This is how I would approach the off-season.
Cut
Nash
Must Get Guys
Greg Monroe Or Martin Gortat
Lance Stephenson
Need to look at bringing back
Nick Young
Ryan Kelly
Xavier Henry
Look to acquire if the price is right
Ed Davis
Al-Farouq Aminu
Jan Vesely
Earl Clark
Draft
Aaron Gordon or Noah Vonleh
Starting Lineup
PG: Lance Stephenson
SG: Kobe Bryant
SF:?
PF: Aaron Gordon or Noah Vonleh
C: Greg Monroe or Martin Gortat | Sounds like a solid plan. But, I would rather move Kobe to small forward and Lance to shooting guard. I would then look to sign a point guard that could play off the ball. Somebody, like Steve Blake I guess. I would prefer Gortat over Monroe for defensive reasons though. I would rather have Pau over Monroe to tell you the truth. An interesting paring at the 4/5 would be Vonleh/Bosh. |
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scoobs Star Player
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Posted: Wed May 21, 2014 2:42 pm Post subject: |
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emplay wrote: | i think you're high - no offense | Come on man, there would be plenty of offense with Kyrie Irving on the roster. |
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emplay Site Staff
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Posted: Wed May 21, 2014 2:44 pm Post subject: |
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the Cavs won't trade Irving - so what then? _________________ Salary Cap Strategist and Columnist at Bleacher Report and on Twitter at http://www.twitter.com/EricPincus |
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scoobs Star Player
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Posted: Wed May 21, 2014 2:50 pm Post subject: |
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emplay wrote: | the Cavs won't trade Irving - so what then? | Not sure. Do you think we will trade the pick or keep the pick? Marcus Smart seems like he will be an Eric Bledsoe/Eric Gordon type player, which is pretty damn good. |
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emplay Site Staff
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Posted: Wed May 21, 2014 2:56 pm Post subject: |
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I view Smart as more of a Lance Stephenson type player - some Bledsoe there though not quite as athletic
The Lakers will probably keep the pick but obviously depends what's offered if someone wants it via trade _________________ Salary Cap Strategist and Columnist at Bleacher Report and on Twitter at http://www.twitter.com/EricPincus |
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scoobs Star Player
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Posted: Wed May 21, 2014 3:05 pm Post subject: |
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emplay wrote: | I view Smart as more of a Lance Stephenson type player - some Bledsoe there though not quite as athletic
The Lakers will probably keep the pick but obviously depends what's offered if someone wants it via trade | yeah I have compared him to Lance as well. He rebounds and is built like Lance. He has the competitive nature that Lance has and he is a good defender like Lance. And he has a suspect jump shot like when Lance came in. He gets steals at a high rate like Bled though. |
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scoobs Star Player
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Posted: Wed May 21, 2014 3:06 pm Post subject: |
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Do you think there would be a conflict with a back court of Smart/Lance with Kobe at the 3? |
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emplay Site Staff
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Posted: Wed May 21, 2014 3:11 pm Post subject: |
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I don't like Lance for the $ he'd cost - he would be a bad pickup for the Lakers currently _________________ Salary Cap Strategist and Columnist at Bleacher Report and on Twitter at http://www.twitter.com/EricPincus |
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scoobs Star Player
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Posted: Wed May 21, 2014 3:31 pm Post subject: |
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Do you think Kobe is better off playing the 2 or 3? What player do you think would be a good pick up to fill one of those positions? |
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daygoboy6191 Starting Rotation
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Posted: Wed May 21, 2014 3:33 pm Post subject: |
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emplay wrote: | I don't like Lance for the $ he'd cost - he would be a bad pickup for the Lakers currently |
See I was trying to figure what Lance might cost, but I couldn't think of a player like him who has hit free agency recently. I know he isn't a max deal guy, and I don't know if Monroe is either. I like Lance because he can run the PG spot, and can play solid defense on PG and SG's which we've been lacking for a while. Our biggest need the last few years is a guy who can stop the PG from penetrating which really kills the defense. |
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emplay Site Staff
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Posted: Wed May 21, 2014 3:34 pm Post subject: |
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entirely depends on who is available - and it, in my mind is not important
Lakers need at least 2 power players (starting 5, starting 4) + plus a backup at 4/5
They need a starting point guard
who else plays 2 or 3 or backup 2 or 3 - late late on the list _________________ Salary Cap Strategist and Columnist at Bleacher Report and on Twitter at http://www.twitter.com/EricPincus |
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emplay Site Staff
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Posted: Wed May 21, 2014 3:35 pm Post subject: |
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Lance would be a terrible, terrible get for the Lakers - team can't afford to pay $8-10 mil for a role player _________________ Salary Cap Strategist and Columnist at Bleacher Report and on Twitter at http://www.twitter.com/EricPincus |
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daygoboy6191 Starting Rotation
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Posted: Wed May 21, 2014 3:42 pm Post subject: |
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emplay wrote: | Lance would be a terrible, terrible get for the Lakers - team can't afford to pay $8-10 mil for a role player |
Who do you suggest them going after this off-season or what their approach should be? |
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Dave20 Franchise Player
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Posted: Wed May 21, 2014 3:42 pm Post subject: |
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Draft - Marcus Smart
Sign Greg Monroe - need the low post scoring
Find defensive Free agents at the 3 and 4
With a healthy Kobe i think that team can be better then the Mavericks were this year. |
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emplay Site Staff
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Posted: Wed May 21, 2014 3:48 pm Post subject: |
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I would argue going after players like Asik/Lin via trade and/or Boozer (either through trade or amnesty claim) - adding talent without long-term investment makes the most sense with 2015 and 2016 better years for FA _________________ Salary Cap Strategist and Columnist at Bleacher Report and on Twitter at http://www.twitter.com/EricPincus |
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daygoboy6191 Starting Rotation
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Posted: Wed May 21, 2014 3:57 pm Post subject: |
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emplay wrote: | I would argue going after players like Asik/Lin via trade and/or Boozer (either through trade or amnesty claim) - adding talent without long-term investment makes the most sense with 2015 and 2016 better years for FA |
I agree with this approach for a long term build, but I don't know if they will take that approach. Hopefully they do, because we would be better off for the long haul but Lakers are trying to win now.
We don't have any pieces to trade other then the 7th pick, and I can't imagine any situation to trade that for guys like Asik or Lin. This team doesn't have any 1st round picks for the next 2-3 yrs I believe because of the Nash deal. We need to get younger and better soon. |
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emplay Site Staff
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Posted: Wed May 21, 2014 3:58 pm Post subject: |
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Lakers have little expectation to "win now" - because they have no players _________________ Salary Cap Strategist and Columnist at Bleacher Report and on Twitter at http://www.twitter.com/EricPincus |
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Mini Mamba Star Player
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Posted: Wed May 21, 2014 3:59 pm Post subject: |
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Will the Lakers pursue Carmelo this summer? |
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daygoboy6191 Starting Rotation
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Posted: Wed May 21, 2014 4:09 pm Post subject: |
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emplay wrote: | Lakers have little expectation to "win now" - because they have no players |
I think the Lakers always have expectations to win within the organization and cannot imagine them sitting pat waiting to rebuild especially by giving Kobe all that money. I think they will save some money by cutting Nash, but they have to go out and get a legitimate starter this year in FA to go along with the draft pick. |
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