View previous topic :: View next topic |
Author |
Message |
emplay Site Staff
Joined: 15 Apr 2001 Posts: 25545
|
Posted: Wed May 21, 2014 4:10 pm Post subject: |
|
|
doubt it _________________ Salary Cap Strategist and Columnist at Bleacher Report and on Twitter at http://www.twitter.com/EricPincus |
|
Back to top |
|
|
emplay Site Staff
Joined: 15 Apr 2001 Posts: 25545
|
Posted: Wed May 21, 2014 4:12 pm Post subject: |
|
|
you can have high expectations for the lakers - but the lakers have an understanding of where they are right now _________________ Salary Cap Strategist and Columnist at Bleacher Report and on Twitter at http://www.twitter.com/EricPincus |
|
Back to top |
|
|
daygoboy6191 Starting Rotation
Joined: 20 May 2014 Posts: 174
|
Posted: Wed May 21, 2014 4:14 pm Post subject: |
|
|
emplay wrote: | you can have high expectations for the lakers - but the lakers have an understanding of where they are right now |
Do you not see them being in play for any of the big names on the FA market this year? |
|
Back to top |
|
|
emplay Site Staff
Joined: 15 Apr 2001 Posts: 25545
|
Posted: Wed May 21, 2014 4:31 pm Post subject: |
|
|
there aren't any big names on the FA market this year _________________ Salary Cap Strategist and Columnist at Bleacher Report and on Twitter at http://www.twitter.com/EricPincus |
|
Back to top |
|
|
scoobs Star Player
Joined: 19 Aug 2005 Posts: 4746
|
Posted: Wed May 21, 2014 5:42 pm Post subject: |
|
|
So could be we looking at a line up that looks like this?
PF - BOOZER
SF - BRYANT
C - ASIK
PG - LIN
SG-SMART
Line up seems pretty tough but not much three point shooting or shot blocking. Kind of an ugly line up. |
|
Back to top |
|
|
daygoboy6191 Starting Rotation
Joined: 20 May 2014 Posts: 174
|
Posted: Wed May 21, 2014 5:56 pm Post subject: |
|
|
scoobs wrote: | So could be we looking at a line up that looks like this?
PF - BOOZER
SF - BRYANT
C - ASIK
PG - LIN
SG-SMART
Line up seems pretty tough but not much three point shooting or shot blocking. Kind of an ugly line up. |
I don't see how or why we would get Asik or Lin. |
|
Back to top |
|
|
emplay Site Staff
Joined: 15 Apr 2001 Posts: 25545
|
Posted: Wed May 21, 2014 6:05 pm Post subject: |
|
|
Scooba - ugly is the situation
Asik is a potential foundational piece _________________ Salary Cap Strategist and Columnist at Bleacher Report and on Twitter at http://www.twitter.com/EricPincus |
|
Back to top |
|
|
daygoboy6191 Starting Rotation
Joined: 20 May 2014 Posts: 174
|
Posted: Wed May 21, 2014 6:35 pm Post subject: |
|
|
emplay wrote: | Scooba - ugly is the situation
Asik is a potential foundational piece |
Asik is due to earn 8.374 million with one year left on his contract, and got that contract off a poor year. If he is a full time starter he will get more $ then he is earning now. I don't see how we would get him in a trade in the first place, but if we did I don't see how this is a foundation piece. He isn't a great scorer, not great at blocking shots, but is good at rebounding.
Greg Monroe is younger, higher ceiling, and if he is willing to take much less then the maximum, and the Pistons don't match your money is better spent without having to give up anything via trade. |
|
Back to top |
|
|
emplay Site Staff
Joined: 15 Apr 2001 Posts: 25545
|
Posted: Wed May 21, 2014 6:44 pm Post subject: |
|
|
And Greg Monroe and Love for that Matt don't defend - that's why you need a player like Asik _________________ Salary Cap Strategist and Columnist at Bleacher Report and on Twitter at http://www.twitter.com/EricPincus |
|
Back to top |
|
|
daygoboy6191 Starting Rotation
Joined: 20 May 2014 Posts: 174
|
Posted: Wed May 21, 2014 11:41 pm Post subject: |
|
|
emplay wrote: | And Greg Monroe and Love for that Matt don't defend - that's why you need a player like Asik |
Well that's why someone like Gordon or Vonleh to be an athletic PF to play weakside defense would be important. We need a PG who can stop penetration is what this team has needed desperately. |
|
Back to top |
|
|
emplay Site Staff
Joined: 15 Apr 2001 Posts: 25545
|
Posted: Wed May 21, 2014 11:52 pm Post subject: |
|
|
Gordon is a complementary defender like Marion - not enough inside
Vonleh has - from what I've seen - a long way to go to understand the game - now Gordon Asik and an elite pf scorer? Or Smart? Now the Lakers are getting somewhere _________________ Salary Cap Strategist and Columnist at Bleacher Report and on Twitter at http://www.twitter.com/EricPincus |
|
Back to top |
|
|
JoJo Dancer Star Player
Joined: 25 Dec 2011 Posts: 7474
|
Posted: Fri May 23, 2014 1:33 pm Post subject: |
|
|
emplay wrote: | Lakers have little expectation to "win now" - because they have no players |
|
|
Back to top |
|
|
emplay Site Staff
Joined: 15 Apr 2001 Posts: 25545
|
Posted: Fri May 23, 2014 2:40 pm Post subject: |
|
|
of course anyone would like to "win now" - but liking - wanting to - trying to - has nothing to do with actually being able to. _________________ Salary Cap Strategist and Columnist at Bleacher Report and on Twitter at http://www.twitter.com/EricPincus |
|
Back to top |
|
|
scoobs Star Player
Joined: 19 Aug 2005 Posts: 4746
|
Posted: Sat May 24, 2014 12:34 pm Post subject: |
|
|
What do you think of the possibility of a trade scenario like this?
Lakers get: Boozer, 16th pick and 19th pick
Bulls get: Sacre
I think this trade would have to be agreed upon before the draft but can't be made till July. Do you think the Bulls would be willing to part with both their picks in order to dump Boozer and reduce salary by about 20 million? |
|
Back to top |
|
|
emplay Site Staff
Joined: 15 Apr 2001 Posts: 25545
|
Posted: Sat May 24, 2014 1:08 pm Post subject: |
|
|
take out sacre and that's something I've already written about as an interesting option _________________ Salary Cap Strategist and Columnist at Bleacher Report and on Twitter at http://www.twitter.com/EricPincus |
|
Back to top |
|
|
Mini Mamba Star Player
Joined: 06 May 2013 Posts: 6006
|
Posted: Sat May 24, 2014 1:13 pm Post subject: |
|
|
If we take that deal with Chicago could we then flip Boozer and one of those picks for Tyreke Evans?
New Orleans would save money by getting Boozer's expiring contract and a draft pick.
We would get a good young player in Evans and another 1st round pick. |
|
Back to top |
|
|
emplay Site Staff
Joined: 15 Apr 2001 Posts: 25545
|
Posted: Sat May 24, 2014 1:28 pm Post subject: |
|
|
I don't believe 1) Evans is available and 2) that the Lakers have interest in Evans
and you're piling ifs on ifs - a mistake _________________ Salary Cap Strategist and Columnist at Bleacher Report and on Twitter at http://www.twitter.com/EricPincus |
|
Back to top |
|
|
scoobs Star Player
Joined: 19 Aug 2005 Posts: 4746
|
Posted: Tue May 27, 2014 12:54 pm Post subject: |
|
|
Eric I heard Minny is interested in Randle and Vonleh. If they are available with our pick, what do you think of trading the drafted player for Love in July? |
|
Back to top |
|
|
Cup-of-noodles Star Player
Joined: 07 Jul 2010 Posts: 1696
|
Posted: Wed May 28, 2014 3:38 am Post subject: |
|
|
emplay wrote: | i think you're high - no offense | |
|
Back to top |
|
|
DimesnD Starting Rotation
Joined: 14 Feb 2009 Posts: 944
|
Posted: Mon Jun 02, 2014 10:46 am Post subject: |
|
|
emplay wrote: | you can have high expectations for the lakers - but the lakers have an understanding of where they are right now |
This concept gives me great anguish. Where they are now was a product of where they were at mid-season. You had to follow the "successful season" model Philadelphia proudly admitted to. Dump Kaman, Hill or even Gasol for draft picks for the likes of Gordon/Okafor and late draft picks. As it was Hill/Kaman propelled them to a few costly victories.
Lakers brass left it in the hands of luck to mold their future. Where they are, they have Kobe, some cap space - they could had much more. Too much pride/arrogance and the belief that Laker brand is good enough to solve all problems are the stumbling blocks for what shoulda been smoother path. |
|
Back to top |
|
|
laker50 Star Player
Joined: 07 Mar 2014 Posts: 2140
|
Posted: Wed Jun 04, 2014 6:09 am Post subject: No wonder Spurs and Miami are in championship game |
|
|
Duncan, Ginobli, and Parker make 30M the same as Kobe who
did not play.
Three for the price of one superstar.
Miami has 3 superstars who are not highest paid.
And they will continue to be in the next few years. |
|
Back to top |
|
|
Laker Homer Rookie
Joined: 08 Jun 2014 Posts: 3
|
Posted: Sun Jun 08, 2014 9:25 pm Post subject: |
|
|
emplay wrote: | take out sacre and that's something I've already written about as an interesting option |
Emplay, I'm late to the party. I don't understand how we would be able to take on Boozers contract in exchange for picks. Isn't there a percentage of Boozers contract Chicago would be required to take back in exchange? Can you direct me where I can read up on what you previously wrote re: this topic?
Thanks. |
|
Back to top |
|
|
A Mad Chinaman Star Player
Joined: 07 Apr 2005 Posts: 6121
|
Posted: Sat Jun 14, 2014 9:57 pm Post subject: |
|
|
Eric
With the scuttlebutt talking about how the Heat will try to get Melo seems to highlight how Riles has the opportunity to get just about the entire Heat roster to resign at a (MUCH) lower contract to get Melo - whether he can do it is another question. This seems to place the Heat in a very similar situation as the Lakers. Is this good or bad.
Marseilles Wiley made an interesting point when he said that Kobe's contract demonstrates that he is more important than the team and that it represents a lack of trust in Mitch. Of course, he is expecting Kobe to ask Mitch to cut his contract in half - lol |
|
Back to top |
|
|
DimesnD Starting Rotation
Joined: 14 Feb 2009 Posts: 944
|
Posted: Mon Jun 16, 2014 2:44 pm Post subject: |
|
|
My rebuild ver 5 using cap space.
1st order. Get extra asset with cap space.
a) Perkins + pick. b) Boozer + pick.
2. Draft. Exum via Orlando for our #7 + OKC or Chi 1st rounder
3. Hire Coach. Screw the retreads who only saw success long ago. We need a fresh voice. a) Rick Fox. 2) convince Battier.
I'm leaning toward Battier since he is LBJ recruiter. Plus he can get a whole lots of guys to buy in on whatever he'd be running, most likely defense. Both these are capable.
4. Assuming Perkins. Exum
SF. Kobe (24 mil) --> add Xavier (1m)
PG. Nash(9 mil) --> add Farmar (3 m) Mills (3mil)
SG: Exum. (3 mil) ---> add (young 5mil) Bazemore(1mil)
PF: Kelly (1 mil) ---> add Hill (3mil)
C: Sacre (1 m) Perkins (9 mil) --> Okafor(1mil)
__________________________
cap : 47 mil+ 7 mil cap hold (all FA renounced) leaves roughly 16 mil to sign the rest. |
|
Back to top |
|
|
A Mad Chinaman Star Player
Joined: 07 Apr 2005 Posts: 6121
|
Posted: Sat Jun 21, 2014 9:48 pm Post subject: |
|
|
DimesnD wrote: | My rebuild ver 5 using cap space.
1st order. Get extra asset with cap space.
a) Perkins + pick. b) Boozer + pick.
2. Draft. Exum via Orlando for our #7 + OKC or Chi 1st rounder
3. Hire Coach. Screw the retreads who only saw success long ago. We need a fresh voice. a) Rick Fox. 2) convince Battier.
I'm leaning toward Battier since he is LBJ recruiter. Plus he can get a whole lots of guys to buy in on whatever he'd be running, most likely defense. Both these are capable.
4. Assuming Perkins. Exum
SF. Kobe (24 mil) --> add Xavier (1m)
PG. Nash(9 mil) --> add Farmar (3 m) Mills (3mil)
SG: Exum. (3 mil) ---> add (young 5mil) Bazemore(1mil)
PF: Kelly (1 mil) ---> add Hill (3mil)
C: Sacre (1 m) Perkins (9 mil) --> Okafor(1mil)
__________________________
cap : 47 mil+ 7 mil cap hold (all FA renounced) leaves roughly 16 mil to sign the rest. | Not much reality in your suggestions
Note: Battier is already signed to be a broadcaster and has never expressed an interest in being a HC |
|
Back to top |
|
|
|