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PostPosted: Sun Apr 20, 2014 11:30 am    Post subject: Lakers were offered just a second rounder for Pau Gasol

I read on the lakernation website that Lakers were only offered a second rounder for Pau Gasol.

Has Pau Gasol's trade value sunked to this all time low?

No wonder lakers did not even trade him.

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PostPosted: Sun Apr 20, 2014 11:32 am    Post subject:

I think many here, including me, figured that was the case.

No one is in a hurry to help the Lakers. He is definitely worth more than a 2nd rounder but these other GMs were trying to rob us hoping we are desperate enough to pull it. We were not.
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 20, 2014 11:34 am    Post subject:

They're right not to give Pau away for nothing.

I know we as fans are looking for change and fresh but Pau is worth more than a 2nd rounder.
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 20, 2014 11:36 am    Post subject:

Would have been nice to have a second rounder.

Only reason they didn't do it was because of fan backlash.
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 20, 2014 11:39 am    Post subject:

Many owners know the Lakers have their backs against the wall, and try to low ball us. Look at what Cleveland did, gave up a first round pick plus Bynum for Deng, but wouldn't do the same for Pau. Pau would have been the 2nd best player on their sorry excuse of a team!!!!
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 20, 2014 11:43 am    Post subject:

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They're right not to give Pau away for nothing.

I know we as fans are looking for change and fresh but Pau is worth more than a 2nd rounder.


Well, hes a goner now and we get nothing for him but the worst season in franchise history! yay
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 20, 2014 11:43 am    Post subject: Re: Lakers were offered just a second rounder for Pau Gasol

LakersForever123 wrote:
I read on the lakernation website that Lakers were only offered a second rounder for Pau Gasol.

Has Pau Gasol's trade value sunked to this all time low?

No wonder lakers did not even trade him.

Discuss.


Yes and because this is a highly vaunted draft, people were being stingy with good picks.
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 20, 2014 11:44 am    Post subject:

Trading your 2nd best player on 2 championship teams for a 2nd round pick would have been the ultimate disrespect move. Especially considering just 2 years ago we bought a 2nd round pick on draft day for about 500k.

Philadelphia is going to have 5 2nd round picks this year, to go along with their 2 first rounders. They're not going to keep all 5. It probably wouldn't be too difficult to buy a 2nd round pick off them if we really wanted to. No reason to disrespect Pau and make our franchise look weak by trading him for a 2nd rounder.
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 20, 2014 12:01 pm    Post subject:

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I think many here, including me, figured that was the case.

No one is in a hurry to help the Lakers. He is definitely worth more than a 2nd rounder but these other GMs were trying to rob us hoping we are desperate enough to pull it. We were not.


They all knew they'd be doing the Lakers a favor by taking Pau and his huge salary. The Lakers were hoping to get the best of both worlds and get a huge money savings AND an asset but it is no surprise that didn't work out. For the Pau from a few years ago, it would have been no problem but this slower, oft-injured version of Pau was not going to be a difference maker for any playoff team.


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PostPosted: Sun Apr 20, 2014 12:01 pm    Post subject:

How LG thinks trades work:

"Hey Mitch, we'll give you our franchise player plus a 1st rounder for Pau"
"Let me get back to you on that"
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 20, 2014 12:05 pm    Post subject:

Atticus wrote:
Trading your 2nd best player on 2 championship teams for a 2nd round pick would have been the ultimate disrespect move. Especially considering just 2 years ago we bought a 2nd round pick on draft day for about 500k.

Philadelphia is going to have 5 2nd round picks this year, to go along with their 2 first rounders. They're not going to keep all 5. It probably wouldn't be too difficult to buy a 2nd round pick off them if we really wanted to. No reason to disrespect Pau and make our franchise look weak by trading him for a 2nd rounder.


i don't believe we're fooling anyone by pretending his value is higher. we traded van exel for nothing, fisher as well. there's nothing really different about it other than kobe would have thrown a (bleep) fit.


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PostPosted: Sun Apr 20, 2014 12:06 pm    Post subject:

Expiring contract have value in freeing up teams that need cap space. Pau's value was only as an expiring contract because teams that need him to win it all could just sign him this off season and the Lakers were not willing to take on a longer contract.

What benefit would a bubble team have in giving up a first rounder for a guy who will most likely leave in a few months?

Lakers could have gotten a first rounder if they were willing to take on a bad contract which they weren't. Thus, a 2nd is the best they could have done. I'm not surprised.
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 20, 2014 12:07 pm    Post subject:

TheElectronica wrote:
Expiring contract have value in freeing up teams that need cap space. Pau's value was only as an expiring contract because teams that need him to win it all could just sign him this off season and the Lakers were not willing to take on a longer contract.

What benefit would a bubble team have in giving up a first rounder for a guy who will most likely leave in a few months?

Lakers could have gotten a first rounder if they were willing to take on a bad contract which they weren't. Thus, a 2nd is the best they could have done. I'm not surprised.


we've done well with second round picks.
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 20, 2014 12:10 pm    Post subject:

I wouldn't have minded having a 2nd round pick and the ability to properly tank and get a higher pick in exchange for Pau. There are occasionally some real gems in the 2nd round and they are the cheapest players in the entire league if you are trying to maintain cap space.
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 20, 2014 12:23 pm    Post subject:

We should have took the 2nd this is a deep draft. Aaron Harrison, Patrick Young, Capela, Stokes, and C.J Fair could have been there with that pick. Gasol won't be back next year, he's not as good as he use to be offensively and he's a defensive liability.
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 20, 2014 12:26 pm    Post subject:

greenfrog wrote:
Atticus wrote:
Trading your 2nd best player on 2 championship teams for a 2nd round pick would have been the ultimate disrespect move. Especially considering just 2 years ago we bought a 2nd round pick on draft day for about 500k.

Philadelphia is going to have 5 2nd round picks this year, to go along with their 2 first rounders. They're not going to keep all 5. It probably wouldn't be too difficult to buy a 2nd round pick off them if we really wanted to. No reason to disrespect Pau and make our franchise look weak by trading him for a 2nd rounder.


i don't believe we're fooling anyone by pretending his value is higher. we traded van exel for nothing, fisher as well. there's nothing really different about it other than kobe would have thrown a (bleep) fit.


Van Exel wasn't the 2nd best player on a championship team. Fisher was traded for Jordan Hill, who has been a rotation player for us essentially since we acquired him. That's different than trading Pau Gasol for a 2nd round pick.
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 20, 2014 12:27 pm    Post subject:

The Suns, had a chance to add a nice scoring punch to there team, but destroyed any chance they had of making noise this season.... they knew they needed to make a trade for a star player to have any hope... apparently they got arrogant and decided to miss the playoffs.
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 20, 2014 12:30 pm    Post subject:

I would rather lose Gasol for nothing than trade him for a second-round pick.
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 20, 2014 12:31 pm    Post subject:

A second round pick and $19 mil in salary
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 20, 2014 12:33 pm    Post subject:

waited too long to trade him. They could have traded him in the summer and got a 1st like Boston did with Paul and KG.
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 20, 2014 12:48 pm    Post subject:

venturalakersfan wrote:
A second round pick and $19 mil in salary


Seriously this. Even if we did the Okafor trade and they were offering a 2nd rounder, we'd still have to take back about $15mil in salary. You want to send a message to free agents? Trade a guy that got you 2 rings for 4mil in cap relief and a 2nd round pick. Again, a 2nd round pick was purchased 2 years ago for 500k. This year's draft is deep, yes, but teams with many 2nd rounders that they don't need will be looking to sell. Outside of the top 10 or so 2nd round picks (where in most drafts you're getting borderline late 1st rounders anyway), it's not like you're going to lose an all star by selling a later 2nd rounder.
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 20, 2014 12:54 pm    Post subject:

JoJo Dancer wrote:
waited too long to trade him. They could have traded him in the summer and got a 1st like Boston did with Paul and KG.


Probably not with the injury issues and the salary. We should have traded him after we acquired Dwight.
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 20, 2014 12:56 pm    Post subject:

JoJo Dancer wrote:
waited too long to trade him. They could have traded him in the summer and got a 1st like Boston did with Paul and KG.


No one knows, rather or not a team, would have given up a 1st round pick..... Pau was really awful last year up until the last few games of the season.... then he disappeared in the playoffs against the Spurs...... at this juncture any kind of asset should be accepted by the Lakers.
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 20, 2014 12:58 pm    Post subject:

Now that would have been the perfect time to trade him.
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 20, 2014 1:17 pm    Post subject:

That's what happens when you hold on to assets for that long. Probably had offers a few seasons ago that were 70 cents on the dollar. But look at the last trade deadline. That's 10 cents on the dollar at best.
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