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Fan0Bynum17
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 Posted: Tue May 20, 2014 4:09 pm Post subject: Is Chicago a likely trading partner? |
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| Assuming we stay in the draft and don't work something out for Love (which seems doubtful to me since we don't have a lot to offer other than the 7th pick,) the Bulls have two mid 1st picks. Trade down with them? Perhaps sweeten it if we take Boozer's contract off their hands? |
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| Posted: Wed May 21, 2014 10:42 am Post subject: Re: Is Chicago a likely trading partner? |
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| Fan0Bynum17 wrote: | | Assuming we stay in the draft and don't work something out for Love (which seems doubtful to me since we don't have a lot to offer other than the 7th pick,) the Bulls have two mid 1st picks. Trade down with them? Perhaps sweeten it if we take Boozer's contract off their hands? |
Why in the world would we do that? Boozer is useless for us. Why would we get an undersized PF who plays no D? We can just sign Pau instead. |
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I think I'd would be okay with getting both mid round picks. I mean, the Lakers could end up with a couple of pretty decent players. Also I've toyed with the idea of including #16 and Tom Thibodeau for #7, but I'm not sure the anyone would go for it though.
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Boozer contract
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Thibodeau contract
Thibodeau agreed to the four-year, $17.5 million contract extension that the Bulls announced way back in an Oct. 1 new conference, but hadn’t signed it until this past week. (reported April 4, 2013) |
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| Posted: Thu May 22, 2014 6:57 am Post subject: |
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Why would we need to include the #7 pick in anything?
Taking Boozer back is enough to get both their 1st rd picks.
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Fan0Bynum17
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| Posted: Thu May 22, 2014 8:03 am Post subject: |
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| KobeRe-Loaded wrote: | Why would we need to include the #7 pick in anything?
Taking Boozer back is enough to get both their 1st rd picks. |
You really think so? That'd be awesome. |
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Fan0Bynum17
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| Posted: Thu May 22, 2014 8:04 am Post subject: Re: Is Chicago a likely trading partner? |
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| threetimechamps wrote: | | Fan0Bynum17 wrote: | | Assuming we stay in the draft and don't work something out for Love (which seems doubtful to me since we don't have a lot to offer other than the 7th pick,) the Bulls have two mid 1st picks. Trade down with them? Perhaps sweeten it if we take Boozer's contract off their hands? |
Why in the world would we do that? Boozer is useless for us. Why would we get an undersized PF who plays no D? We can just sign Pau instead. |
Because Boozer is only signed for one more year and it would be really valuable to the Bulls to lose his contract. It's not a big deal for us to take on that salary since next year's FA class is what we're really eying. |
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Can't the Bulls just amnesty Boozer though ?
I'd like to give them Nash for both picks plus our 7th. We free up more cap |
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| a2j1m wrote: | Can't the Bulls just amnesty Boozer though ?
I'd like to give them Nash for both picks plus our 7th. We free up more cap |
Sure they could. But they'd still have to pay him his 16 million, minus whatever a team bid to pick him up. |
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| Posted: Thu May 22, 2014 12:18 pm Post subject: Re: Is Chicago a likely trading partner? |
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[quote="Fan0Bynum17"]Assuming we stay in the draft and don't work something out for Love (which seems doubtful to me since we don't have a lot to offer other than the 7th pick,) the Bulls have two mid 1st picks. Trade down with them? Perhaps sweeten it if we take Boozer's contract off their hands?[/quote
Might be a possibility. This article discusses that option:
http://au.ibtimes.com/articles/553233/20140522/pau-gasol-trade-nba-news-lakers-rumors.org#.U35kSPldWAM
I trust that if it becomes a reality Mitch & the gang accepts nothing less than Chicago's 2 first round picks. |
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Nash and Pau resigned for Boozer and one of their firsts.
Lakers still would have enough cap to go after a player of note.
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| GonzagaAlum wrote: | Nash and Pau resigned for Boozer and one of their firsts.
Lakers still would have enough cap to go after a player of note. |
No they wouldn't. They'd have 3m
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| Posted: Thu May 22, 2014 1:10 pm Post subject: Re: Is Chicago a likely trading partner? |
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| threetimechamps wrote: | | Fan0Bynum17 wrote: | | Assuming we stay in the draft and don't work something out for Love (which seems doubtful to me since we don't have a lot to offer other than the 7th pick,) the Bulls have two mid 1st picks. Trade down with them? Perhaps sweeten it if we take Boozer's contract off their hands? |
Why in the world would we do that? Boozer is useless for us. Why would we get an undersized PF who plays no D? We can just sign Pau instead. |
We wouldn't get 2 first round picks for signing Pau. I wouldn't give them our 1st though. We are helping them enough taking Boozer off their hands.
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| Posted: Fri May 23, 2014 7:04 pm Post subject: Re: Is Chicago a likely trading partner? |
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| venturalakersfan wrote: | | threetimechamps wrote: | | Fan0Bynum17 wrote: | | Assuming we stay in the draft and don't work something out for Love (which seems doubtful to me since we don't have a lot to offer other than the 7th pick,) the Bulls have two mid 1st picks. Trade down with them? Perhaps sweeten it if we take Boozer's contract off their hands? |
Why in the world would we do that? Boozer is useless for us. Why would we get an undersized PF who plays no D? We can just sign Pau instead. |
We wouldn't get 2 first round picks for signing Pau. I wouldn't give them our 1st though. We are helping them enough taking Boozer off their hands. |
i think a S&T pau for boozer + first rounder makes a lot of sense for both sides.
chicago saves money in that they don't have to amnesty boozer and sign pau or melo via free agency. pau gets to go to a contender. lakers get a first rounder and a 1 year rental of boozer, so they can have a lot of cap space for 2015. the minimum team salary requirement is $52 million anyways, and the lakers are on the books for $35.. so they'd need to spend at least $17 million in this offseason, and they are likely to offer only 1 year contracts.
i doubt lakers will get 2 first rounders for pau though. |
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| The Lakers would be doing the Bulls a favor by taking Boozer so Chicago would have to sweeten the deal.At the very least the number 16 and their 2nd round pick for doing so. |
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Lakers get: Boozer, 16th pick and 19th pick
Bulls get: 2017 2nd round pick (top 55 protected)
Lakers could try to put together a trade for somebody like Irving or they could just keep the rookies. They could end up with something like a combination of Marcus Smart, Rodney Hood and Clint Capela. |
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| Your talking about tankin another season...i pass |
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| As a fan, I don't really want to tank another season but a lot of reports are that the Lakers are looking more at the 2015 and 2016 off seasons. Before we do that though, I would offer Minny Sacre and the 7th pick for Love (trade to be completed in July since Lakers technically won't have cap room till then and can't violate the stepian rule by trading 1st round picks in consecutive years). We would then have about 10 million left to use on free agents. |
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| scoobs wrote: | | As a fan, I don't really want to tank another season but a lot of reports are that the Lakers are looking more at the 2015 and 2016 off seasons. Before we do that though, I would offer Minny Sacre and the 7th pick for Love (trade to be completed in July since Lakers technically won't have cap room till then and can't violate the stepian rule by trading 1st round picks in consecutive years). We would then have about 10 million left to use on free agents. |
What is the point of tanking another season if we don't have our 1st round pick?
I think Timberwolve will be interested with Pau + 7th pick but I don't think Pau wants to go there. |
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| Posted: Tue May 27, 2014 4:38 pm Post subject: |
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| lakersfan8 wrote: | | scoobs wrote: | | As a fan, I don't really want to tank another season but a lot of reports are that the Lakers are looking more at the 2015 and 2016 off seasons. Before we do that though, I would offer Minny Sacre and the 7th pick for Love (trade to be completed in July since Lakers technically won't have cap room till then and can't violate the stepian rule by trading 1st round picks in consecutive years). We would then have about 10 million left to use on free agents. |
What is the point of tanking another season if we don't have our 1st round pick?
I think Timberwolve will be interested with Pau + 7th pick but I don't think Pau wants to go there. |
I'm saying as a fan I don't want to tank so trading the pick for Love would be not tanking. |
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| Posted: Tue May 27, 2014 6:36 pm Post subject: Re: Is Chicago a likely trading partner? |
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| misterrunon wrote: | | venturalakersfan wrote: | | threetimechamps wrote: | | Fan0Bynum17 wrote: | | Assuming we stay in the draft and don't work something out for Love (which seems doubtful to me since we don't have a lot to offer other than the 7th pick,) the Bulls have two mid 1st picks. Trade down with them? Perhaps sweeten it if we take Boozer's contract off their hands? |
Why in the world would we do that? Boozer is useless for us. Why would we get an undersized PF who plays no D? We can just sign Pau instead. |
We wouldn't get 2 first round picks for signing Pau. I wouldn't give them our 1st though. We are helping them enough taking Boozer off their hands. |
i think a S&T pau for boozer + first rounder makes a lot of sense for both sides.
chicago saves money in that they don't have to amnesty boozer and sign pau or melo via free agency. pau gets to go to a contender. lakers get a first rounder and a 1 year rental of boozer, so they can have a lot of cap space for 2015. the minimum team salary requirement is $52 million anyways, and the lakers are on the books for $35.. so they'd need to spend at least $17 million in this offseason, and they are likely to offer only 1 year contracts.
i doubt lakers will get 2 first rounders for pau though. |
Only Chicago supposedly want Melo, not Pau.
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| scoobs wrote: | Lakers get: Boozer, 16th pick and 19th pick
Bulls get: 2017 2nd round pick (top 55 protected)
Lakers could try to put together a trade for somebody like Irving or they could just keep the rookies. They could end up with something like a combination of Marcus Smart, Rodney Hood and Clint Capela. |
Don't think it will work out but like the idea (at least not two 1st rounders). If Lakers can then persuade Kobe to have a paycut to 20 m and persuade Nash to retire, Lakers can sign Anthony with 15m. It has become a rule nowadays; if you want to win, you need to accept a paycut. Pick Smart with 7th pick, resign Pau with veteran exception, resign Hill and Meeks with mid-level exception, and then a championship contender will be there.
That is the dream. |
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| lakersfan8 wrote: | | scoobs wrote: | | As a fan, I don't really want to tank another season but a lot of reports are that the Lakers are looking more at the 2015 and 2016 off seasons. Before we do that though, I would offer Minny Sacre and the 7th pick for Love (trade to be completed in July since Lakers technically won't have cap room till then and can't violate the stepian rule by trading 1st round picks in consecutive years). We would then have about 10 million left to use on free agents. |
What is the point of tanking another season if we don't have our 1st round pick?
I think Timberwolve will be interested with Pau + 7th pick but I don't think Pau wants to go there. |
Well, if we're in the lottery, there's a chance we keep our pick, just not a very good one (it's top 3 protected.) |
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no we have nothing they want and they have nothing we want..
But i'll take Rose for Nash lol
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| Fan0Bynum17 wrote: | | KobeRe-Loaded wrote: | Why would we need to include the #7 pick in anything?
Taking Boozer back is enough to get both their 1st rd picks. |
You really think so? That'd be awesome. |
This would help Chicago clear up some space to go after Melo. Would love to have 3 first rounders to either draft or trade for Love |
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