Do the Cavs Now Have A Legit Chance At Kevin Love?

 
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PostPosted: Tue May 20, 2014 4:21 pm    Post subject: Do the Cavs Now Have A Legit Chance At Kevin Love?

Dion Waiters, Tristan Thompson, Anthony Bennett, and future picks (not including the #1 pick) for Kevin Love?

It's nowhere close to being fair value for Love but who is willing to trade for him and can offer a better package? We can't offer a better package. The Celtics would have to give up Rondo so why would Love stay there. I don't think Houston's offer would be better.

You put Andrew Wiggins and Kyrie Irving next to Love and he will stay in Cleveland.
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PostPosted: Tue May 20, 2014 7:35 pm    Post subject:

Phoenix still holds the best package, I doubt a GS deal comes together for a rental. If you can get Len and your own selections I think the Wolves take that over guys that haven't panned out to their potential. Still hoping for him to scare teams off, but I wouldn't call a Cavs package without the #1 the best offer.
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PostPosted: Tue May 20, 2014 9:11 pm    Post subject:

They have a legit chance at picking McDermott in 1st pick and tanking their way to a 2015 #1 pick

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PostPosted: Wed May 21, 2014 3:41 am    Post subject:

NO, who the hell want to go there, its syberia in america.
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PostPosted: Wed May 21, 2014 9:04 am    Post subject:

Cavs have a chance ... at a 1 year rental.
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PostPosted: Wed May 21, 2014 9:12 am    Post subject:

Lots of teams besides the Lakers have a shot. I for one am relieved. If Love wasn't meant to be, no need to lose a lottery pick for same. If he's meant to be, he will find his way here.
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PostPosted: Wed May 21, 2014 9:48 pm    Post subject:

Let's lay it out here (just spit-balling, so add you're takes):

GS: David Lee, Harrison Barnes & Draymond Green (and possibly a future first) for Love and Barrea or another contract take back.
- Min will want to try and pry Klay Thompson, but I wouldn't do it if I were GS even for Love.

Chicago: Taj Gibson, Jimmy Butler, Boozer Expiring (if it is, didn't research) and a future first. For Love and Barrea or another contract back.

Lakers: Sadly #7, Pau, Nash contract (please), Jordan Hill for Love, Barrea and a third crappy contract back. Don't really see us in the mix unless Love doesn't extend anywhere and signs all out next year and Kobe takes a min or retires. Even then, longest of long shots even though he's an LA boy.

Don't think there's any chance Love goes to Cleveland unless Lebron already opts out and signs there. Unless they're stupid enough to offer Waiters, Bennet and the current number without an extension in place for Love.

Sorry, there are more options but I got lazy with it all.

Boston seems as far of a stretch as the Lakers. Houston, no way. Him and Dwight won't mesh. Knicks are worse off then the Lakers post Kerr. No assets with actual trade value.

GS, CHI or LAkers as an extreme long shot seems the most likely destination.

Funny how different media outlets are plugging Love into any random scenario. Despite the fact that he'll only likely re-up with a few teams.
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PostPosted: Wed May 21, 2014 11:24 pm    Post subject:

Cavs have a shot, but I don't think they want to trade for a player who will just leave as a free agent. They just went through this with Luol Deng.
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PostPosted: Thu May 22, 2014 2:27 am    Post subject:

Kevin Love is not leaving Cleveland with Kyrie Irving as a teammate.
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PostPosted: Thu May 22, 2014 3:37 am    Post subject:

Kyrie will leave then...lol
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PostPosted: Thu May 22, 2014 3:40 am    Post subject:

Contract: 4 yr(s) / $23,198,010 Average Salary $5,799,503 Guaranteed: $23,198,010 Signed Using: Rookie Scale Free Agent: 2015 / Restricted

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PostPosted: Thu May 22, 2014 4:44 am    Post subject:

Would be catastrophically stupid for Cavs to do it.

Love is looking IMO for two things:

1. a great team;
2. a great location to live since he's lived in Minny for 6+ years.

Clev. is neither. Nor can they claim Lebron will come here, b/c if he doesn't, Love is out of there.

So why trade away Wiggins/Embiid for a 1 year rental? Just a stupid move but typical Clev. mismanagement.
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PostPosted: Thu May 22, 2014 4:48 am    Post subject:

IF Cleveland trades their #1, it will be for a player still on their rookie contract, guaranteeing them at least 5 years (depending on how far into the contract said player is) of that player.

They won't trade it for Love. Now they could trade their other picks and players like Thompson, Bennett, perhaps Waiters, etc, for Love (although Minnesota will say no). But not their #1.

So you're looking at a Bradley Beal type player.
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PostPosted: Fri May 23, 2014 3:32 am    Post subject:

Cleveland has no semetry, a ton of redundancy, they should trade the pick get Love or LBJ they can to pair with irving and a new coach and just start over!
Waiters and Kyrie are the same player, Gee and Thompson are the same, Zeller and Hawes are the same, Deng will be a Laker, Varejao is a good vet for them! Trade the pick, get LBJ back from miami then u got a good core with...

Irving
Need a pure 2 guard
LBJ
Thompson
Solid starting center

But those 3 are a good young core
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PostPosted: Fri May 23, 2014 2:35 pm    Post subject:

NO, stop asking.
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PostPosted: Sat May 24, 2014 6:13 am    Post subject:

Phx. with the draft picks is a good cheap alternative for Minny, especially if they are in the rebuild mode.

If they want a win now package, Houston for Asix and Parsons would be a good deal for both teams.

I don't see the Lakers being in the mix for a trade for Love, unless Gasol expressed an interest in playing with Rubio in Minny. I think if we do sign and trade Gasol, it is to Memphis for Randolph.

Love is on the Lakers target list, but as one of the list of top free agents coming off next year. If he is traded and re-signs, the Lakers will lose all interest. Melo might be the easier guy to acquire right now, instead of Love.
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PostPosted: Sat May 24, 2014 12:33 pm    Post subject:

yinoma2001 wrote:
Would be catastrophically stupid for Cavs to do it.

Love is looking IMO for two things:

1. a great team;
2. a great location to live since he's lived in Minny for 6+ years.

Clev. is neither. Nor can they claim Lebron will come here, b/c if he doesn't, Love is out of there.

So why trade away Wiggins/Embiid for a 1 year rental? Just a stupid move but typical Clev. mismanagement.


Never once has Minnesota been listed as a reason for Love wanting out. He wants out because the team sucks and he's tired of losing. The market and location has never been listed as an issue with him.
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PostPosted: Sat May 24, 2014 12:36 pm    Post subject:

waterman40 wrote:
Phx. with the draft picks is a good cheap alternative for Minny, especially if they are in the rebuild mode.

If they want a win now package, Houston for Asix and Parsons would be a good deal for both teams.

I don't see the Lakers being in the mix for a trade for Love, unless Gasol expressed an interest in playing with Rubio in Minny. I think if we do sign and trade Gasol, it is to Memphis for Randolph.

Love is on the Lakers target list, but as one of the list of top free agents coming off next year. If he is traded and re-signs, the Lakers will lose all interest. Melo might be the easier guy to acquire right now, instead of Love.


Phoenix's offer really isn't that great. Yes they have a bunch of picks but most of them aren't going to net you that good of a player. When your best asset is the #14 pick you're not landing Love.
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PostPosted: Mon May 26, 2014 8:33 pm    Post subject:

Of course they do. They have a better shot that the Lakers do.
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PostPosted: Tue May 27, 2014 3:24 am    Post subject:

Go Lakers

NBA still trying to make up for Lebum leaving the Cavs... when will it end...Lakers need retibution for the CP3 debactal, will that ever happen?
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PostPosted: Tue May 27, 2014 1:17 pm    Post subject:

Is it possible for Lakers to trade for Cav's 1st pick with Pau and 7th pick?
I know how media has been saying Embiid/Wiggins/Parker are so good etc... But those are "potentials"
Other than Parker, Embiid and Wiggins are not able to give all-star impact at this stage. Cavs desperately wants to go into playoffs or even Finals. They also need to sort out Irving's contract and this guy might not have the patience to wait for another 2 years. Bear in mind these guys might not turn into the next Olajuwon or LeBron. (just like O.J Mayo hasn't turned into LBJ and never will)So trading their 1st pick to someone who can give direct impact is not totally illogical.
If the trade happens before the free agent market begin, Cavs will still have Deng's Bird's right and can sign him irrespective to the cap space.
The starting lineup for Cavs will be
Pau
Thompson
Deng
Waiters
Irving
They also have a descent bench with Jack, Bennett, Varejao (pick up team option) and our 7th pick to select PF/SG. They can then sign players using veteran and mid-level exception and become a solid contender in the East.
To Cavs, this is a better trade than the Kevin Love trade because firstly Gasol can sign a multi-year extension (2-3 years) and he will be willing to go there because the roster is solid. Secondly, they receive a top 10 pick which Timberwolve is not able to offer.
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PostPosted: Tue May 27, 2014 1:59 pm    Post subject:

lakurluv wrote:
Cleveland has no semetry, a ton of redundancy, they should trade the pick get Love or LBJ they can to pair with irving and a new coach and just start over!
Waiters and Kyrie are the same player, Gee and Thompson are the same, Zeller and Hawes are the same, Deng will be a Laker, Varejao is a good vet for them! Trade the pick, get LBJ back from miami then u got a good core with...

Irving
Need a pure 2 guard
LBJ
Thompson
Solid starting center

i threw up in my mouth when you said "deng will be a laker"

But those 3 are a good young core
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 04, 2014 3:27 am    Post subject:

I think Pau comes back to finish his career here. Just a guess, he likes the Sesame Street Characters
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