I wish Luke would have had him shooting from 3 the complete year _________________ "He's a Zen master, so he can speak to you, and he doesn't need a microphone; you can hear him in your head, 'Ron, don't shoot, don't shoot.' Whatever, pow, three. I love the Zen, though."
Randle and #28 to the kings for one of their lotto picks. Draft Monk, Markkanen or Isaac.
I don't think Jules will fetch that kind of a return, especially b/c he will have to be extended soon.
damn not even with #28 attached to him? He can't get the 9th pick in the draft with #28 attached??
Highly doubt that.
Think about it like this: That #9 pick is a mid-lottery pick who *might* or might not bust. Randle is a former mid-lottery pick who has already busted. It would be like trading a losing raffle ticket in a past raffle for a new one in a raffle which hasn't happened yet.
He's not a bust, and he still has some upside in theory. Do the Kings have a better PF than him?
Just checked. They don't have a starting PF at all, they're playing two centers, WCS and Koufus. Randle would actually be a very nice fit for them. WCS at center, Randle at PF.
Randle +#28 for the #9 pick would be a very solid move for the Kings.
Randle and #28 to the kings for one of their lotto picks. Draft Monk, Markkanen or Isaac.
I don't think Jules will fetch that kind of a return, especially b/c he will have to be extended soon.
damn not even with #28 attached to him? He can't get the 9th pick in the draft with #28 attached??
Highly doubt that.
Think about it like this: That #9 pick is a mid-lottery pick who *might* or might not bust. Randle is a former mid-lottery pick who has already busted. It would be like trading a losing raffle ticket in a past raffle for a new one in a raffle which hasn't happened yet.
If you think Jules is a bust, why would the Kings want to trade the raffle ticket for the raffle that hasn't happened? _________________ From 2-10 to the Western Conference Finals
“Shooting 3’s are fun. But for both of them, they do other things so well. The ultimate end game for them can’t be them being stretch -fours who want to shoot 3’s all night,” Walton said. “They’re too good, too athletic and too versatile. That’s just something to be able to fall back on late in the shot clock.”
Walton said he might start Nance before the season ends in Mid-April, either with Randle or starting center Ivica Zubac. Both players sounded fine with the possibility.
Said Nance: “Whether you come off the bench or start, it’s not about who starts the game. It’s about who finishes.”
Nance has been taking threes over the last few games, and actually having some success. Over the last 8 games, he's shooting 40% from three on 1.3 attempts per game. Obviously a 9 attempt sample size is tiny, but for reference, he had only taken 13 threes all season before this stretch. Good to see him letting them fly.
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yinoma2001 wrote:
CandyCanes wrote:
yinoma2001 wrote:
dao wrote:
yinoma2001 wrote:
dao wrote:
Randle and #28 to the kings for one of their lotto picks. Draft Monk, Markkanen or Isaac.
I don't think Jules will fetch that kind of a return, especially b/c he will have to be extended soon.
damn not even with #28 attached to him? He can't get the 9th pick in the draft with #28 attached??
Highly doubt that.
Think about it like this: That #9 pick is a mid-lottery pick who *might* or might not bust. Randle is a former mid-lottery pick who has already busted. It would be like trading a losing raffle ticket in a past raffle for a new one in a raffle which hasn't happened yet.
If you think Jules is a bust, why would the Kings want to trade the raffle ticket for the raffle that hasn't happened?
I don't. I was agreeing with you. _________________ Damian Lillard shatters Dwight Coward's championship dreams:
This season Jules and Nance should have been launching 3s and getting acclimated to at least being a 30-32% 3 point "threat." In a different world where we're not tanking, I would have given Deng some starting minutes at PF where he's a career 33% from 3 and is a more colorable outside threat.
Now, at season's end, these guys haven't made progress on that end at all. Clock's ticking... _________________ From 2-10 to the Western Conference Finals
There's nothing wrong about what Luke said in that article.
He just don't want Julius and Nance to focus too much on 3 pointers and forgetting about other parts of their games.
I think it's a red flag because I think it shows a misunderstanding of how to score most efficiently in today's NBA. Being a credible 3pt threat at their position is essential, IMO.
No, that doesn't mean they chuck all day, but if the defense is soft-hedging a pick & roll you're damn right that I want them popping out for a wide open 3 rather than our only option being the ball handler shooting a pull-up, mid range jumper.
I think it's a red flag because I think it shows a misunderstanding of how to score most efficiently in today's NBA. Being a credible 3pt threat at their position is essential, IMO.
No, that doesn't mean they chuck all day, but if the defense is soft-hedging a pick & roll you're damn right that I want them popping out for a wide open 3 rather than our only option being the ball handler shooting a pull-up, mid range jumper.
If it's a double whammy of: 1) neither Jules/Nance can hit 3s reliably; 2) coach is telling me not to shoot it...
Yeah, it's a big problem. Can't just simulate a season's worth of shots and experience that should have been in the can already. We literally have no evaluative data if Luke was telling them not to shoot it this season (just terrible %s on limited attempts). _________________ From 2-10 to the Western Conference Finals
I think it's a red flag because I think it shows a misunderstanding of how to score most efficiently in today's NBA. Being a credible 3pt threat at their position is essential, IMO.
No, that doesn't mean they chuck all day, but if the defense is soft-hedging a pick & roll you're damn right that I want them popping out for a wide open 3 rather than our only option being the ball handler shooting a pull-up, mid range jumper.
If it's a double whammy of: 1) neither Jules/Nance can hit 3s reliably; 2) coach is telling me not to shoot it...
Yeah, it's a big problem. Can't just simulate a season's worth of shots and experience that should have been in the can already. We literally have no evaluative data if Luke was telling them not to shoot it this season (just terrible %s on limited attempts).
I'd argue that their percentage is artificially depressed by the fact that for most of the season the only time they ever shot a 3 is to beat the shot clock or game clock. Watching these two over the last couple of weeks where they're actually shooting 3's in the flow of the offense (and still not enough, IMO) I have a hard time believing they couldn't hit 30% on the wide open attempts that I'm advocating.
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Julius us becoming the modern day Lamar Odom in the sense he has one great game gets you all excited about him then has 5 bad ones, then one great one then another 5 bad ones
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