Are people really freaking out about a Drew League game.........
People were freaking out about him playing in the Drew League last year too.
And they freaked out over Randle's preseason games also.
Julius has been steadily improving but the complaints are always the same.
Jules has a track record of not playing hard on defense and taking plays off. So it is disappointing to see that this has not changed this offseason.
Does he have a ton of talent and potential? Heck yes! Does he play with consistent effort. No. It is a big problem IMO.
The point is that you can't say that "his defensive effort hasn't changed this off-season" based on some damn Drew League highlights. It's glorified rec center pickup ball.
I'd say it's like complaining about the lack of defense in the NBA all star game, but even the all star game is treated more seriously than the Drew League by players.
Hell, the Summer league is going on right now and you don't see a ton of defensive effort in those games either.
with Lonzo, the table is set for Julius to have some monster games so we'll probably find out pretty quick if he is THE ONE or not, probably within the first 20 games of the season if there are no major injuries. If Jules hasn't put up some big games by then, it's questionable whether he should get a huge contract when there will probably be other options available.
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Posted: Mon Jul 17, 2017 12:07 pm Post subject:
AY2043 wrote:
Dr. Funkbot wrote:
Truck Turner wrote:
AY2043 wrote:
Are people really freaking out about a Drew League game.........
People were freaking out about him playing in the Drew League last year too.
And they freaked out over Randle's preseason games also.
Julius has been steadily improving but the complaints are always the same.
Jules has a track record of not playing hard on defense and taking plays off. So it is disappointing to see that this has not changed this offseason.
Does he have a ton of talent and potential? Heck yes! Does he play with consistent effort. No. It is a big problem IMO.
The point is that you can't say that "his defensive effort hasn't changed this off-season" based on some damn Drew League highlights. It's glorified rec center pickup ball.
I just don't like his approach to the game. Sure it is Drew league, it's OK that I don't try hard all the time. It morphs into, sure its just the summer league or its just the pre-season. The games don't matter.
I really hope I am wrong and that he will actually provide consistent effort this upcoming season. If not, he will be gone from the team. That lakadaisical approach to the game from him will not cut it any longer. It is up to him. _________________ R.I.P. Doc Buss
Are people really freaking out about a Drew League game.........
People were freaking out about him playing in the Drew League last year too.
And they freaked out over Randle's preseason games also.
Julius has been steadily improving but the complaints are always the same.
Jules has a track record of not playing hard on defense and taking plays off. So it is disappointing to see that this has not changed this offseason.
Does he have a ton of talent and potential? Heck yes! Does he play with consistent effort. No. It is a big problem IMO.
The point is that you can't say that "his defensive effort hasn't changed this off-season" based on some damn Drew League highlights. It's glorified rec center pickup ball.
I just don't like his approach to the game. Sure it is Drew league, it's OK that I don't try hard all the time. It morphs into, sure its just the summer league or its just the pre-season. The games don't matter.
I really hope I am wrong and that he will actually provide consistent effort this upcoming season. If not, he will be gone from the team. That lakadaisical approach to the game from him will not cut it any longer. It is up to him.
This might be the most absurd thing I've ever read on this forum. Seriously. You've just failed at logic, badly. _________________ “Christ did not die to forgive sinners who go on treasuring anything above seeing and savoring God. And people who would be happy in heaven if Christ were not there, will not be there."
- John Piper
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Posted: Mon Jul 17, 2017 12:37 pm Post subject:
My point is that some players want to win no matter what type of game they are playing. See Lonzo. Then there are players who do not appear to be all that competitive. See Randle.
IMO the difference is night and day. I hope that Randle sees the light. Seems logical to me. _________________ R.I.P. Doc Buss
My point is that some players want to win no matter what type of game they are playing. See Lonzo. Then there are players who do not appear to be all that competitive. See Randle.
IMO the difference is night and day. I hope that Randle sees the light. Seems logical to me.
I watched the video and there was a questionable defense mishap but then I saw him try on multiple block attempts. So it seems like you're overdramatizing.
My point is that some players want to win no matter what type of game they are playing. See Lonzo. Then there are players who do not appear to be all that competitive. See Randle.
IMO the difference is night and day. I hope that Randle sees the light. Seems logical to me.
Except that by most accounts Randle is incredibly competitive. You're grossly overreacting to and embellishing what's in those Drew League clips.
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Posted: Mon Jul 17, 2017 1:28 pm Post subject:
Truck Turner wrote:
Dr. Funkbot wrote:
My point is that some players want to win no matter what type of game they are playing. See Lonzo. Then there are players who do not appear to be all that competitive. See Randle.
IMO the difference is night and day. I hope that Randle sees the light. Seems logical to me.
Except that by most accounts Randle is incredibly competitive. You're grossly overreacting to and embellishing what's in those Drew League clips.
I am just reacting to his body of work. He has consistently coasted on D since day one. I am looking for signs of improvement with that regard.
He does appear to be a competitive guy. He says the right things, stays in the gym and out of trouble. He is not dating a Kardshian.
It is just that when it comes to playing the games, he does not do the little things like give forth consistent effort on D.
I am hoping that playing with Lonzo will energize him on both ends of the floor.
I know he is still young but we are going on 4 years with the Lakers ORG and a season of college. Clarkson spent 4 years in college and going on 4 with the Lakers and he still does not play D either. So I am not sure if some guys will ever "get it" on the defensive end despite having the tools to be good to great defenders.
I am hoping that Randle can turn this around this season. He has no choice either he plays hard on both ends of the floor this season, or we won't bring him back. It is as simple as that. _________________ R.I.P. Doc Buss
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Posted: Mon Jul 17, 2017 1:40 pm Post subject:
AY2043 wrote:
Are people really freaking out about a Drew League game.........
I'm just disappointed we didn't see him practicing his jumper in a game situation. Even if it was just Drew League, it's still better than spending all your time practicing against air. _________________ "Suck it up. Don't be a baby. Do your job." - Kobe Bryant
I'm just disappointed we didn't see him practicing his jumper in a game situation. Even if it was just Drew League, it's still better than spending all your time practicing against air.
He did knock down a couple of jumpers. One short step back in the post, and an off foot fall away from mid range.
Lol if Randle went full bore in the drew league he'd hurt someone.
Why would he play and not play his hardest? Because he's a human being and it's a fun way for him to participate and contribute to the local community.
Have some perspective man it's about the community, not his ego.
Every time Kuzma does good, people are like Randle watch out. I see no reason we can't keep both plus Nance and just dump Zubac and/or Clarkson in a potential Deng deal. Or just for assets in general. We're going small most of the time anyway so Randle/Nance can play backup C minutes.
Randle better stop lifting weights and start working exclusively on his three point stroke for the rest of the summer.
If you're gonna be so emotionally invested, the least you could do is keep up.
nothing emotional about it, just calling it like I see it. He's got an expiring contract, a large cap hold, and fierce competition at his position. The pressure is high for him this year.
Randle better stop lifting weights and start working exclusively on his three point stroke for the rest of the summer.
If you're gonna be so emotionally invested, the least you could do is keep up.
Most of those are mid-range.
he's had videos of nice 3pt streaks and such. https://t.co/m5kHuoC5rt
Ireland has reported that he's made 20 in a row.
Personally I've seen his lower body twist be really pronounced and detrimental at game speed, so I'm a bit skeptical. Nance was a good 3pt practice shooter, a lot of players are.
Zach LoweVerified account @ZachLowe_NBA 8 May 2015
Kris Humphries went 70-of-85 on 3s after practice today. We talkin' bout practice, not a game, practice -- still cool to watch.
So my take, is a skeptical view --- but I'm also officially rooting for Kuz, contract situation and shooting being at the forefront of my mind.
Randle better stop lifting weights and start working exclusively on his three point stroke for the rest of the summer.
If you're gonna be so emotionally invested, the least you could do is keep up.
Most of those are mid-range.
he's had videos of nice 3pt streaks and such. https://t.co/m5kHuoC5rt
Ireland has reported that he's made 20 in a row.
Personally I've seen his lower body twist be really pronounced and detrimental at game speed, so I'm a bit skeptical. Nance was a good 3pt practice shooter, a lot of players are.
Zach LoweVerified account @ZachLowe_NBA 8 May 2015
Kris Humphries went 70-of-85 on 3s after practice today. We talkin' bout practice, not a game, practice -- still cool to watch.
So my take, is a skeptical view --- but I'm also officially rooting for Kuz, contract situation and shooting being at the forefront of my mind.
As it should be. In game shooting is night and day from practice shooting.
Randle better stop lifting weights and start working exclusively on his three point stroke for the rest of the summer.
If you're gonna be so emotionally invested, the least you could do is keep up.
Most of those are mid-range.
he's had videos of nice 3pt streaks and such. https://t.co/m5kHuoC5rt
Ireland has reported that he's made 20 in a row.
Personally I've seen his lower body twist be really pronounced and detrimental at game speed, so I'm a bit skeptical. Nance was a good 3pt practice shooter, a lot of players are.
Zach LoweVerified account @ZachLowe_NBA 8 May 2015
Kris Humphries went 70-of-85 on 3s after practice today. We talkin' bout practice, not a game, practice -- still cool to watch.
So my take, is a skeptical view --- but I'm also officially rooting for Kuz, contract situation and shooting being at the forefront of my mind.
I don't think I've seen your analysis of Kuzma's shooting stroke. How would you grade its purity?
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