Joined: 20 Jul 2006 Posts: 8518 Location: Left coast
Posted: Sat Aug 05, 2017 7:54 am Post subject:
Magic said Julius is going to have a breakout season. I've seen nothing in his workout videos that give reason to doubt that. The things he's practicing are going to make him a far better, more unstoppable scorer than he has been. Playing with Lonzo, multiply that × 10, 15, maybe up to 20 %.
It's funny when I read posts questioning whether his work will translate to the court. Practice, dedication, and hard work translate. Magic knows what he's talking about and a lot of doubters will be surprised.
Randle new moves look nice. Just hope we dont have to see him do 1) drive to basket doing a stutter/hesitation move driving left 2) drive right stutter/hesitation and spin back to finish left. Hope we get to see some offense variation to keep defenses guessing as well as defender.
Those two moves were pretty predictable for him last year
There's only one variable that I think could thwart his shooting now, after seeing that shot, as well as his corner make a few days ago.
It's what Tracy Murray identified as his jumpers weakness, and it really is a big factor ----- his speed going into his jumper.. The less calm and slow Julius is going into his shot, the more his lower body twists. In his jumper above, he wasn't going fast out there, in fact it was right after the tip (a player's motor isn't running at that point)
There's only one variable that I think could thwart his shooting now, after seeing that shot, as well as his corner make a few days ago.
It's what Tracy Murray identified as his jumpers weakness, and it really is a big factor ----- his speed going into his jumper.. The less calm and slow Julius is going into his shot, the more his lower body twists. In his jumper above, he wasn't going fast out there, in fact it was right after the tip (a player's motor isn't running at that point)
What has gone into Julius’ progression with his jump shot?
Murray: “Slow down, slow down, slow down. But as a player, you don’t know if you’re moving fast until you see the video and until you know the tempo
" When he was going up fast, he was shooting the ball straight like it was coming out of a cannon.
So when he slows it down and is on balance and goes up, now he’s able to get it up over the air and into the rim. It’s about rhythm."
yeah he really smoothly and calmly hopped into that jumper and stroked it with confidence. He hit some other jumpers as well, just isn't in the highlight. _________________ How NBA 2K18 failed the All-Time Lakers:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kxMBYm3wwxk
There's only one variable that I think could thwart his shooting now, after seeing that shot, as well as his corner make a few days ago.
It's what Tracy Murray identified as his jumpers weakness, and it really is a big factor ----- his speed going into his jumper.. The less calm and slow Julius is going into his shot, the more his lower body twists. In his jumper above, he wasn't going fast out there, in fact it was right after the tip (a player's motor isn't running at that point)
What has gone into Julius’ progression with his jump shot?
Murray: “Slow down, slow down, slow down. But as a player, you don’t know if you’re moving fast until you see the video and until you know the tempo
" When he was going up fast, he was shooting the ball straight like it was coming out of a cannon.
So when he slows it down and is on balance and goes up, now he’s able to get it up over the air and into the rim. It’s about rhythm."
yeah he really smoothly and calmly hopped into that jumper and stroked it with confidence. He hit some other jumpers as well, just isn't in the highlight.
yea.. I mean, confidence can lead to over-twisting/not following through, as well - I'm not a "confidence is a super main factor" guy. Sometimes a guy takes an extra half second to calm himself/body before he shoots, and someone views that as not being confident. I've also seen Julius shoot half of his jumpers without hesitating, and he doesn't shoot any better % on those...(bad shooter any way you cut it)
It's a factor, but I'm not so heavy on it.
Wanted to get that off my chest, after seeing 1million "confidence" comments here.. Ijs. <3
There's only one variable that I think could thwart his shooting now, after seeing that shot, as well as his corner make a few days ago.
It's what Tracy Murray identified as his jumpers weakness, and it really is a big factor ----- his speed going into his jumper.. The less calm and slow Julius is going into his shot, the more his lower body twists. In his jumper above, he wasn't going fast out there, in fact it was right after the tip (a player's motor isn't running at that point)
What has gone into Julius’ progression with his jump shot?
Murray: “Slow down, slow down, slow down. But as a player, you don’t know if you’re moving fast until you see the video and until you know the tempo
" When he was going up fast, he was shooting the ball straight like it was coming out of a cannon.
So when he slows it down and is on balance and goes up, now he’s able to get it up over the air and into the rim. It’s about rhythm."
yeah he really smoothly and calmly hopped into that jumper and stroked it with confidence. He hit some other jumpers as well, just isn't in the highlight.
yea.. I mean, confidence can lead to over-twisting/not following through, as well - I'm not a "confidence is a super main factor" guy. Sometimes a guy takes an extra half second to calm himself/body before he shoots, and someone views that as not being confident. I've also seen Julius shoot half of his jumpers without hesitating, and he doesn't shoot any better % on those...(bad shooter any way you cut it)
It's a factor, but I'm not so heavy on it.
Wanted to get that off my chest, after seeing 1million "confidence" comments here.. Ijs. <3
Yeah, I guess the best way I could put it is that there's a more consistent follow through. When he shot it with confidence before he was still speeding up. This time around he just uses the hop into his shot and strokes it.
I think that 'speeding up' on the shot was one of his problems too, but the threes he's shot lately have been a lot smoother and calmer.
One thing I've been consistently seeing however is that leaning middie he's been doing in the lane. Saw it a bit last year, but he's been using it in the drew league as well. Seems to be more a shot of practice than of circumstance.
But I guess what I'm saying with the three is he's stroking it with the kind of repetition that comes with shooting 1000 threes a day, which he's been doing. When it becomes more natural, you speed it up less. Unless the defender forces you to. _________________ How NBA 2K18 failed the All-Time Lakers:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kxMBYm3wwxk
There's only one variable that I think could thwart his shooting now, after seeing that shot, as well as his corner make a few days ago.
It's what Tracy Murray identified as his jumpers weakness, and it really is a big factor ----- his speed going into his jumper.. The less calm and slow Julius is going into his shot, the more his lower body twists. In his jumper above, he wasn't going fast out there, in fact it was right after the tip (a player's motor isn't running at that point)
What has gone into Julius’ progression with his jump shot?
Murray: “Slow down, slow down, slow down. But as a player, you don’t know if you’re moving fast until you see the video and until you know the tempo
" When he was going up fast, he was shooting the ball straight like it was coming out of a cannon.
So when he slows it down and is on balance and goes up, now he’s able to get it up over the air and into the rim. It’s about rhythm."
yeah he really smoothly and calmly hopped into that jumper and stroked it with confidence. He hit some other jumpers as well, just isn't in the highlight.
yea.. I mean, confidence can lead to over-twisting/not following through, as well - I'm not a "confidence is a super main factor" guy. Sometimes a guy takes an extra half second to calm himself/body before he shoots, and someone views that as not being confident. I've also seen Julius shoot half of his jumpers without hesitating, and he doesn't shoot any better % on those...(bad shooter any way you cut it)
It's a factor, but I'm not so heavy on it.
Wanted to get that off my chest, after seeing 1million "confidence" comments here.. Ijs. <3
Yeah, I guess the best way I could put it is that there's a more consistent follow through. When he shot it with confidence before he was still speeding up. This time around he just uses the hop into his shot and strokes it.
I think that 'speeding up' on the shot was one of his problems too, but the threes he's shot lately have been a lot smoother and calmer.
One thing I've been consistently seeing however is that leaning middie he's been doing in the lane. Saw it a bit last year, but he's been using it in the drew league as well. Seems to be more a shot of practice than of circumstance.
But I guess what I'm saying with the three is he's stroking it with the kind of repetition that comes with shooting 1000 threes a day, which he's been doing. When it becomes more natural, you speed it up less. Unless the defender forces you to.
Yea I think that's a notch on confidence's cap. When you have that many reps, you have a confidence that you'll repeat the same correct stroke - and you also don't have to run into the shot salivating, you can just trust that it'll be one of many. I've seen him salivate at shots and step into them with so much bounce in his step and confidence, and then over shoot them. Hopefully he steps into his shots just like that one, pretty mildly (and the twist was still overt. So I really hope he isn't sped up more than that. just imo.)
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Posted: Mon Aug 07, 2017 12:48 am Post subject:
Chase.button07 wrote:
yinoma2001 wrote:
Chase.button07 wrote:
yinoma2001 wrote:
Chase.button07 wrote:
DLO is best suited for 6th man role with Crabbe starting.
Crabbe is unlikely to start. They didn't trade Brook/27th and absorb Moz's horrible deal to bring him off the bench. Nets are already starting to push Dlo as one of the faces of the franchise. Crabbe is already used to the bench role.
Ok. He didn't waive his 15% trade kicker to come off the bench.
There is a reason why nets management haven't given him the starting job.
DLO is nothing special
Salty.
Lol no
This quote chain is making me feel nostalgic. Remembering the good 'ol DLO thread.
Wish we could've seen DLO and Lin on the same Lakers roster. Just so I could've watched LG descend into chaos. _________________ "Every hurt is a lesson, and every lesson makes you better”
KIROE. Just wondering. In your opinion who has better shot mechanics? Randle or ZBO.
I don't particularly like either.. ZBo's base is too narrow(combined with his body being turned), awkward set-up.
Randle's stroke is shorter, more concise, quicker - but his twist in the air could be a major limiting factor
KIROE. Just wondering. In your opinion who has better shot mechanics? Randle or ZBO.
i know you are asking kiroe, but its zbo for me. wayyy more compact, higher release.
Randle's is more compact at the top, doesn't use headspace - but his dip is pretty exaggerated. So yea, their shot's are about equally timed. I was thinking about their actual strokes too much, looked back and saw how much Randle's dips
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