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| Randle would be so good under Brad Stevens. Please no |
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RI Laker
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| The guy is a whack job idiot. Randle for that SCRUB Smart. Celtic fans are dying to off this kid. He is the worst shooter in the league and his D is very over rated. Give us Rozier and the Kings 2019 1st rd pick and its a done deal. |
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blackmamba08
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| Posted: Tue Jan 23, 2018 4:06 am Post subject: |
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| Big NO to trade anything with Boston. |
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Daphanabe
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| Posted: Tue Jan 23, 2018 4:08 am Post subject: |
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| I wonder if Boston would give us our pick back. The exception means that Boston could trade for him without salary going back to us right? |
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MJST
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| Posted: Tue Jan 23, 2018 4:39 am Post subject: |
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1) You don't trade Randle when you have his RFA rights and his Bird's Rights which is AN ADVANTAGE in the current specter of the NBA no matter what the poorly written ESPN articles will tell you.
2) You don't trade a player of his caliber to free up space for someone you have NO guarantee is even coming or "someones". particularly given the fact that you will have room for a max regardless.
3) You DO NOT UNDER ANY CIRCUMSTANCES TRADE HIM TO BOSTON!!
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| Posted: Tue Jan 23, 2018 5:12 am Post subject: |
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| MJST wrote: | | 1) You don't trade Randle when you have his RFA rights and his Bird's Rights which is AN ADVANTAGE in the current specter of the NBA no matter what the poorly written ESPN articles will tell you. |
It regardless of his status if laker do not see him in the plan.
| MJST wrote: | | 2) You don't trade a player of his caliber to free up space for someone you have NO guarantee is even coming or "someones". particularly given the fact that you will have room for a max regardless. |
laker just did with Dlo, unless you deem Dlo not in the same caliber as randle.
| MJST wrote: | | 3) You DO NOT UNDER ANY CIRCUMSTANCES TRADE HIM TO BOSTON!! |
Even we hate celitc, if their offer is best, why not?
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| Posted: Tue Jan 23, 2018 6:48 am Post subject: |
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| MJST wrote: | 1) You don't trade Randle when you have his RFA rights and his Bird's Rights which is AN ADVANTAGE in the current specter of the NBA no matter what the poorly written ESPN articles will tell you.
2) You don't trade a player of his caliber to free up space for someone you have NO guarantee is even coming or "someones". particularly given the fact that you will have room for a max regardless.
3) You DO NOT UNDER ANY CIRCUMSTANCES TRADE HIM TO BOSTON!! |
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| Posted: Tue Jan 23, 2018 6:53 am Post subject: |
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| I don't know why the front office is fascinated with trading Randle, he's playing great this year and has really been a boost of energy every time on the floor. |
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I'm 100% opposed to trading Jules unless it's a "can't refuse" level deal, which I doubt we'll see.
He fits the 2 max plan b/c:
1. if we needed cap space ASAP, we could stretch Deng/renounce Jules. This requires no aid from other teams.
2. if we miss out on 2 max, or just get 1 max, allows us to keep Jules on a reasonable deal.
By trading him now, without knowing how 2018 FA will go, that's stupid b/c it jeopardizes everything that I just outlined above.
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lakerican
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| Posted: Tue Jan 23, 2018 7:06 am Post subject: |
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| KobeDunk wrote: | | I don't know why the front office is fascinated with trading Randle, he's playing great this year and has really been a boost of energy every time on the floor. |
I don't think it is the FO, It is some people here, just saying... |
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Laker Junkie
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| Posted: Tue Jan 23, 2018 7:10 am Post subject: |
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| yinoma2001 wrote: | I'm 100% opposed to trading Jules unless it's a "can't refuse" level deal, which I doubt we'll see.
He fits the 2 max plan b/c:
1. if we needed cap space ASAP, we could stretch Deng/renounce Jules. This requires no aid from other teams.
2. if we miss out on 2 max, or just get 1 max, allows us to keep Jules on a reasonable deal.
By trading him now, without knowing how 2018 FA will go, that's stupid b/c it jeopardizes everything that I just outlined above. |
Why do we have to renounce Jules in #1? I thought per Emplay we only need to extend and stretch Deng if we get PG13 and Cousins.
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| Posted: Tue Jan 23, 2018 7:12 am Post subject: |
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| Laker Junkie wrote: | | yinoma2001 wrote: | I'm 100% opposed to trading Jules unless it's a "can't refuse" level deal, which I doubt we'll see.
He fits the 2 max plan b/c:
1. if we needed cap space ASAP, we could stretch Deng/renounce Jules. This requires no aid from other teams.
2. if we miss out on 2 max, or just get 1 max, allows us to keep Jules on a reasonable deal.
By trading him now, without knowing how 2018 FA will go, that's stupid b/c it jeopardizes everything that I just outlined above. |
Why do we have to renounce Jules in #1? I thought per Emplay we could extend and stretch if we get PG13 and Cousins. |
I'm just including the possibility of LBJ, which we would have to do so.
If PG13/Boogie, they'd have to take a slight paycut. If they're ok, then yes, we could keep Jules.
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| Posted: Tue Jan 23, 2018 7:24 am Post subject: |
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| we tanked for years to get lottery players now we are trading them LOL how dumb. Hope they keep him. |
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| Posted: Tue Jan 23, 2018 8:16 am Post subject: |
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| yinoma2001 wrote: | | Laker Junkie wrote: | | yinoma2001 wrote: | I'm 100% opposed to trading Jules unless it's a "can't refuse" level deal, which I doubt we'll see.
He fits the 2 max plan b/c:
1. if we needed cap space ASAP, we could stretch Deng/renounce Jules. This requires no aid from other teams.
2. if we miss out on 2 max, or just get 1 max, allows us to keep Jules on a reasonable deal.
By trading him now, without knowing how 2018 FA will go, that's stupid b/c it jeopardizes everything that I just outlined above. |
Why do we have to renounce Jules in #1? I thought per Emplay we could extend and stretch if we get PG13 and Cousins. |
I'm just including the possibility of LBJ, which we would have to do so.
If PG13/Boogie, they'd have to take a slight paycut. If they're ok, then yes, we could keep Jules. |
I don't think the Emplay idea works with the 2 max plan unless we trade JC before the summer.
To add to that....when Magic stated that the option to add 2 Max FA was all in their control without having to involve another team, he meant stretching Deng, renouncing JR and letting BLo and DCP walk. I don't think JC fits in that concept (no help from another team). |
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Dr. Funkbot
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| Posted: Tue Jan 23, 2018 9:16 am Post subject: |
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Good to see Randle bringing it over the past few games! Makes me happy when he is dunking on people.
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| Posted: Tue Jan 23, 2018 9:28 am Post subject: |
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| Having Randle on the team makes us much more attractive to potential Free Agents. I know we want get get 2 but we need to secure at least 1 and Randle helps make that happen. |
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| Posted: Tue Jan 23, 2018 10:50 am Post subject: |
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| I wish Stu would stop mentioning Julius' hand size. |
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| Posted: Tue Jan 23, 2018 10:55 am Post subject: |
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| RI Laker wrote: | | The guy is a whack job idiot. Randle for that SCRUB Smart. Celtic fans are dying to off this kid. He is the worst shooter in the league and his D is very over rated. Give us Rozier and the Kings 2019 1st rd pick and its a done deal. |
Maybe read the article, Boston doesn’t have to give us anything.
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| Posted: Tue Jan 23, 2018 10:56 am Post subject: |
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| Daphanabe wrote: | | I wonder if Boston would give us our pick back. The exception means that Boston could trade for him without salary going back to us right? |
What does Philly get out of it, it could be their pick.
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| Posted: Tue Jan 23, 2018 10:58 am Post subject: |
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| adtz wrote: | | MJST wrote: | | 1) You don't trade Randle when you have his RFA rights and his Bird's Rights which is AN ADVANTAGE in the current specter of the NBA no matter what the poorly written ESPN articles will tell you. |
It regardless of his status if laker do not see him in the plan.
| MJST wrote: | | 2) You don't trade a player of his caliber to free up space for someone you have NO guarantee is even coming or "someones". particularly given the fact that you will have room for a max regardless. |
laker just did with Dlo, unless you deem Dlo not in the same caliber as randle.
| MJST wrote: | | 3) You DO NOT UNDER ANY CIRCUMSTANCES TRADE HIM TO BOSTON!! |
Even we hate celitc, if their offer is best, why not? |
Good job pointing out the weaknesses of this FO. Do you seriously think getting nothing for Randle is the best offer? Really?
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| lakerican wrote: | | KobeDunk wrote: | | I don't know why the front office is fascinated with trading Randle, he's playing great this year and has really been a boost of energy every time on the floor. |
I don't think it is the FO, It is some people here, just saying... |
Yes, they wouldn’t have tried working out an extension for him if he wasn’t part of their plans.
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| Posted: Tue Jan 23, 2018 11:12 am Post subject: |
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| KobeDunk wrote: | | we tanked for years to get lottery players now we are trading them LOL how dumb. Hope they keep him. |
Maybe if we didn't sign deng and movgov to those contracts we wouldn't have to |
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| WindyCityLakerFan wrote: | | KobeDunk wrote: | | we tanked for years to get lottery players now we are trading them LOL how dumb. Hope they keep him. |
Maybe if we didn't sign deng and movgov to those contracts we wouldn't have to |
Still didn't have to. |
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| Posted: Tue Jan 23, 2018 11:21 am Post subject: |
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| venturalakersfan wrote: | | RI Laker wrote: | | The guy is a whack job idiot. Randle for that SCRUB Smart. Celtic fans are dying to off this kid. He is the worst shooter in the league and his D is very over rated. Give us Rozier and the Kings 2019 1st rd pick and its a done deal. |
Maybe read the article, Boston doesn’t have to give us anything. |
Read the article. The writer proposes Smart for Randle. |
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| WindyCityLakerFan wrote: | | KobeDunk wrote: | | we tanked for years to get lottery players now we are trading them LOL how dumb. Hope they keep him. |
Maybe if we didn't sign deng and movgov to those contracts we wouldn't have to |
One of the dumbest things continually posted here, we don’t have to. Our FO chooses to do so, it is all on them. Why do you think we have to?
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