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PostPosted: Tue Apr 24, 2018 5:45 pm    Post subject:

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Is there any scenario where you could swap PG for some combo of KCP/Deng/picks?



I mean if OKC was desperate for SOMETHING they could convince George to sign his player option and then Sign and trade him to the Lakers for Deng and Picks but.. I don't think OKC would do that.... not if their GM is sober.
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 24, 2018 5:47 pm    Post subject:

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Is there any scenario where you could swap PG for some combo of KCP/Deng/picks?


OKC will pay luxury tax for Deng? Though KCP at $10-12 mil for George might make sense for them.


How would the tax work if they move his expiring deal midseason? I'm just brainstorming, seeing how their other option would be to lose PG for nothing.


The tax is figured after the season so any salary dumped during the season wouldn’t count.
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 24, 2018 5:49 pm    Post subject:

Hmm maybe throw in Zu or something. Then they'd be players in next year's free agency, no? Kinda similar to the Chris Paul trade. I'm throwing (bleep) out there at this point .
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 24, 2018 10:41 pm    Post subject:

manlisten wrote:
Is there any scenario where you could swap PG for some combo of KCP/Deng/picks?


Why? When Lakers can keep picks and just sign PG and OKC can avoid Deng and just sign KCP.
Essentially you are trading Deng with picks for cash and these picks are hardly worth it.
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 25, 2018 5:44 am    Post subject:

^ If/when Melo opts in how much cap will they have for free agents?
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 29, 2018 8:29 am    Post subject:

Julius Randle would love to return

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Restricted free agent Julius Randle is hopeful that he will return to the Los Angeles Lakers this summer.


https://lakeshowlife.com/2018/04/29/los-angeles-lakers-julius-randle-love-return/
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 29, 2018 8:37 am    Post subject:

Deng/Zu/ draft picks get sent somewhere for the capspace. Someplace like Atlanta, where they want the picks to rebuild.
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 29, 2018 8:51 am    Post subject:

MJST wrote:
manlisten wrote:
Is there any scenario where you could swap PG for some combo of KCP/Deng/picks?



I mean if OKC was desperate for SOMETHING they could convince George to sign his player option and then Sign and trade him to the Lakers for Deng and Picks but.. I don't think OKC would do that.... not if their GM is sober.


Makes no sense for OKC.

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PostPosted: Sun Apr 29, 2018 8:54 am    Post subject:

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manlisten wrote:
Is there any scenario where you could swap PG for some combo of KCP/Deng/picks?


OKC will pay luxury tax for Deng? Though KCP at $10-12 mil for George might make sense for them.


I agree, though only if we're looking at a second max. Otherwise we should just keep KCP at that number. If we are getting James and George, getting KCP his money probably pleases Kutch.
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 29, 2018 9:53 am    Post subject:

pio2u wrote:
Julius Randle would love to return

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Restricted free agent Julius Randle is hopeful that he will return to the Los Angeles Lakers this summer.


https://lakeshowlife.com/2018/04/29/los-angeles-lakers-julius-randle-love-return/


And PG would "love" to return to OKC. Aaron Mintz has prepped his clients well. 😁
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 29, 2018 12:11 pm    Post subject:

We should sign Randle even if it's 18m. Especially if we only get 1 max player. He's still very young, and if he becomes really good then it was worth the gamble. If we see that he's not showing much growth, we can always play him big minutes, let him pad his stats, and trade him like West & Frank did to Griffin.

There are those who wished we got West back after he left Golden State. Well, that's exactly what he would have done with Randle. Jersey up in the rafters next to Kobe & Shaq, and trade him when he moment was right.
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 30, 2018 2:18 pm    Post subject:

Wesley Matthews exercises $18.6 million option to stay with Mavs: LINK

So how does this effect the Mavs in their pursuit of Randle?
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 30, 2018 2:36 pm    Post subject:

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First, the guy that thinks Randle is getting 20 million is out of his mind. The number of teams with capspace are small, plus Washington had no capspace to replace Porter, since Mahimi 16 million per season.


I wouldn't say out of their mind. Randle has 2 of the 3 keys for the modern NBA.

NBA level switchability against elite guards

Grab and go ability to push tempo.

He adapted. He's not dead.
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 30, 2018 2:52 pm    Post subject:

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Wesley Matthews exercises $18.6 million option to stay with Mavs: LINK

So how does this effect the Mavs in their pursuit of Randle?


It doesn't help them one bit.

Karma for taking on Harrison Barnes and letting GS build an all-time team.
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 30, 2018 3:02 pm    Post subject:

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^ If/when Melo opts in how much cap will they have for free agents?

None
If Melo opts in, OKC is over the cap (even without PG)
https://www.basketball-reference.com/contracts/OKC.html
RW, Melo, and Adams alone count for around 87.5m & Roberson is another 10m

adding everyone else EXCEPT PG13 comes up to about $117m
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 30, 2018 3:13 pm    Post subject:

venturalakersfan wrote:
manlisten wrote:
Is there any scenario where you could swap PG for some combo of KCP/Deng/picks?


OKC will pay luxury tax for Deng? Though KCP at $10-12 mil for George might make sense for them.
i would surely get KCP if i were the thunder.
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 30, 2018 3:15 pm    Post subject:

pio2u wrote:
Julius Randle would love to return

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Restricted free agent Julius Randle is hopeful that he will return to the Los Angeles Lakers this summer.


https://lakeshowlife.com/2018/04/29/los-angeles-lakers-julius-randle-love-return/

Ju is staying home(not his real home as a child but his new home with the lakers.)

JU aint going anywhere.
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PostPosted: Tue May 01, 2018 2:24 am    Post subject:

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manlisten wrote:
^ If/when Melo opts in how much cap will they have for free agents?

None
If Melo opts in, OKC is over the cap (even without PG)
https://www.basketball-reference.com/contracts/OKC.html
RW, Melo, and Adams alone count for around 87.5m & Roberson is another 10m

adding everyone else EXCEPT PG13 comes up to about $117m


This is what I was thinking. It probably still wouldn't make sense for them to take on Deng unless they buyout Melo and could benefit from Deng's expiring+picks. Their hands are really tied outside of trading Westbrook so maybe there's a potential deal there.
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PostPosted: Tue May 01, 2018 7:56 pm    Post subject:

Julius just posted to his Instagram story: “back at it with my dawg @amoila_caesar”



Bruh bruh STAYING in shape
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PostPosted: Tue May 01, 2018 8:27 pm    Post subject:

*Lonzo Ball turn*

It's about that time.

https://twitter.com/Carrastealth/status/991534335529402368
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PostPosted: Tue May 01, 2018 8:31 pm    Post subject:

pio2u wrote:
Julius Randle would love to return

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Restricted free agent Julius Randle is hopeful that he will return to the Los Angeles Lakers this summer.


https://lakeshowlife.com/2018/04/29/los-angeles-lakers-julius-randle-love-return/


That’s terrible click baity writing imo

Using quote from his exit interview that we’ve all heard before and then putting it out in an article 2 days ago titled “Julius Randle would love to return” as if anything new has been said lol
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PostPosted: Tue May 01, 2018 8:32 pm    Post subject:

MJST wrote:
*Lonzo Ball turn*

It's about that time.

https://twitter.com/Carrastealth/status/991534335529402368




Julius is going to be a cyborg next season. Really hope we retain him.
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PostPosted: Tue May 01, 2018 8:39 pm    Post subject:

He would be a good "third best player" and place holder for Kuzma or Ball to blow up and be the third best player, if we are able to sign the two max players.

James 26ppg, 8rpg, 6apg
George 24ppg, 6rpg, 2spg, 40% threes
Randle 15ppg, 9rpg, 3apg
Kuzma 16ppg, 7rpg, 38% threes

Thats a solid big 4. We dont have a clear cut "third star" yet, but Kuzma or Ball could turn in to that guy.
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PostPosted: Tue May 01, 2018 8:43 pm    Post subject:

DangeRuss wrote:
MJST wrote:
*Lonzo Ball turn*

It's about that time.

https://twitter.com/Carrastealth/status/991534335529402368




Julius is going to be a cyborg next season. Really hope we retain him.


Same, I didn't think it was possible for him to look in better shape :O

But that means he just stayed the course after the season before jumping back into it. Good sign.
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PostPosted: Tue May 01, 2018 8:46 pm    Post subject:

Lakers trying to show they are a class organization. They probably are laeaing towards rewarding Randle for all his hard work, doing what they told him to do.
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