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PostPosted: Wed May 30, 2018 7:06 pm    Post subject:

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https://mobile.twitter.com/DraftExpress/status/1001903423988486144

Ok. Sign Julius


All three are CAA clients, with Randle and George sharing the same agent within CAA (Mintz).


Yup.
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call me a prisoner of the moment, but whatever the heck draymond is doing rn Julius is already better than that.

Rockets guarding this man like 2010 Rondo

I saw what you saw. He was terrible, out there wasting space, posing on offense.


Agreed. He picked it up in the second half, but his first half of game 6 was like that too

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call me a prisoner of the moment, but whatever the heck draymond is doing rn Julius is already better than that.

Rockets guarding this man like 2010 Rondo


He had the worst game of the series, that's all.

The championship run was prided on the fact that he could actually hit at least 1-2 3-pointers a game.


Agreed. I’m trying not to get too far ahead of myself. For me I just think Draymond has lost the “stretch 4” label he used to have


Sure but he makes up for it by being a playmaker which is almost as good.


Let's look at the other side of the ball.
He commands the defense.


His defense was also trash in the first half haha. Made Capela look like Orlando Dwight


Was it trash?
I thought he was making the right switches.
When they have you in a pnr lob situation, you have to stay or switch trusting your teammates to rotate.
KD had a pretty bad first half on rotations and boxing out for rebounds imo
But I'm going off memory. Numbers may show otherwise.


Same i'm going off memory too lol. I was just rambling anyways, just some friendly banter. Very well could have been KD not doing his job either




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Tough night for Draymond Green so far...

- 2-6 FG (1-3 on uncontested FGA)

- Warriors are 1-5 off his passes (All 5 FGA have been contested)

- Allowed 14 Pts on 6-9 FG as a primary defender, the most Pts allowed by anyone in the half.


https://twitter.com/ESPNStatsInfo/status/1001285343675641856

knowin Draymond he was prolly trollin them with his effort for the first half


22... always friendly banter...
Thanks Anf. Perhaps his defense was bad the first half? Would love to see what constituted being the primary defender and how much of that was from Capella scoring.

Re: Julius, I think Julius' offense is advancing passed Greens. I still think Green has the defense on Julius. But this may be the year that it comes together for Jules, which is scary if it does.


I think it’s safe to say that Randle is trending upward and Green may of leveled out and hit his ceiling already. If he isn’t there, he doesn’t have far up to go. He could be at the same level or start declining soon.
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PostPosted: Thu May 31, 2018 7:10 pm    Post subject:

I think Julius at the same age is miles better than Green, by the time he's 27 if we compare him and green at 27 it won't be any comparison, if Julius continues to trend upwards, stay healthy and work hard. And working hard has never been an issue for him.
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 03, 2018 4:09 pm    Post subject:

Yeah, if JR can learn to shoot, he is a complete player.
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 03, 2018 4:51 pm    Post subject:

Would love for Jules to be an all nba/all defense/all star too.
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 04, 2018 6:29 pm    Post subject:

Julius Randle thinks that the Los Angeles Lakers’ ability to speak up paid dividends as the year progressed.
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The Los Angeles Lakers did much better in 2017-2018 than was the case last season. Despite not making the postseason, the team showed that they might be able to compete for a playoff spot in the near future.

Unlike teams from the last few seasons, the Lakers looked a lot more energetic on the hardwood. There was a certain flow to the way they played that was hard to not be encouraged by.


https://lakeshowlife.com/2018/06/04/los-angeles-lakers-julius-randle-claims-communication-bolstered-teams-growth/
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 04, 2018 6:35 pm    Post subject:

Agents don't care about "package deals" for their clients, so having the same agent doesn't mean squat..!

Agents get a percentage of the contract they negotiate, so negotiating the most money for their clients makes them MORE money than having two of them on the same team...

If I'm missing something, please let me know...
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 04, 2018 6:36 pm    Post subject:

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I think Julius at the same age is miles better than Green, by the time he's 27 if we compare him and green at 27 it won't be any comparison, if Julius continues to trend upwards, stay healthy and work hard. And working hard has never been an issue for him.


He’s essentially supposed to be better then Green, Jules was a Lottery pick while Green was a late bloomer in the 2nd round.
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 04, 2018 6:45 pm    Post subject:

Do we have sue bird rights on Julius?
Can we go over the cap to sign him?
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 04, 2018 6:48 pm    Post subject:

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Do we have sue bird rights on Julius?
Can we go over the cap to sign him?


Yes, unless we sign 2 max FA with stretching Deng. Would have to trade Deng in a salary dump if we sign 2 max FAs and still want to keep JRs bird rights. His cap hold is like 12.5 million. His max is like 18 million
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 04, 2018 6:55 pm    Post subject:

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epak wrote:
Do we have sue bird rights on Julius?
Can we go over the cap to sign him?


Yes, unless we sign 2 max FA with stretching Deng. Would have to trade Deng in a salary dump if we sign 2 max FAs and still want to keep JRs bird rights. His cap hold is like 12.5 million. His max is like 18 million

His max is 25% of the projected $101M cap.
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 04, 2018 6:59 pm    Post subject:

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epak wrote:
Do we have sue bird rights on Julius?
Can we go over the cap to sign him?


Yes, unless we sign 2 max FA with stretching Deng. Would have to trade Deng in a salary dump if we sign 2 max FAs and still want to keep JRs bird rights. His cap hold is like 12.5 million. His max is like 18 million

His max is 25% of the projected $101M cap.


So if we sign FAs, we can't go over the cap with Julius' contract?
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 04, 2018 7:23 pm    Post subject:

epak wrote:
Baron Von Humongous wrote:
PG13 wrote:
epak wrote:
Do we have sue bird rights on Julius?
Can we go over the cap to sign him?


Yes, unless we sign 2 max FA with stretching Deng. Would have to trade Deng in a salary dump if we sign 2 max FAs and still want to keep JRs bird rights. His cap hold is like 12.5 million. His max is like 18 million

His max is 25% of the projected $101M cap.


So if we sign FAs, we can't go over the cap with Julius' contract?

Julius' cap hold is $12.5M. The max salary he can receive starts at around $25M. So the Lakers can sign him to a contract above his $12.5M cap hold up to $25M after free agents sign.
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Baron Von Humongous wrote:
epak wrote:
Baron Von Humongous wrote:
PG13 wrote:
epak wrote:
Do we have sue bird rights on Julius?
Can we go over the cap to sign him?


Yes, unless we sign 2 max FA with stretching Deng. Would have to trade Deng in a salary dump if we sign 2 max FAs and still want to keep JRs bird rights. His cap hold is like 12.5 million. His max is like 18 million

His max is 25% of the projected $101M cap.


So if we sign FAs, we can't go over the cap with Julius' contract?

Julius' cap hold is $12.5M. The max salary he can receive starts at around $25M. So the Lakers can sign him to a contract above his $12.5M cap hold up to $25M after free agents sign.



Ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh. I get it
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 04, 2018 7:27 pm    Post subject:

epak wrote:
Baron Von Humongous wrote:
epak wrote:
Baron Von Humongous wrote:
PG13 wrote:
epak wrote:
Do we have sue bird rights on Julius?
Can we go over the cap to sign him?


Yes, unless we sign 2 max FA with stretching Deng. Would have to trade Deng in a salary dump if we sign 2 max FAs and still want to keep JRs bird rights. His cap hold is like 12.5 million. His max is like 18 million

His max is 25% of the projected $101M cap.


So if we sign FAs, we can't go over the cap with Julius' contract?

Julius' cap hold is $12.5M. The max salary he can receive starts at around $25M. So the Lakers can sign him to a contract above his $12.5M cap hold up to $25M after free agents sign.



Ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh. I get it


Did you really call it the Sue Bird rights?
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 04, 2018 7:29 pm    Post subject:

Baron Von Humongous wrote:
epak wrote:
Baron Von Humongous wrote:
PG13 wrote:
epak wrote:
Do we have sue bird rights on Julius?
Can we go over the cap to sign him?


Yes, unless we sign 2 max FA with stretching Deng. Would have to trade Deng in a salary dump if we sign 2 max FAs and still want to keep JRs bird rights. His cap hold is like 12.5 million. His max is like 18 million

His max is 25% of the projected $101M cap.


So if we sign FAs, we can't go over the cap with Julius' contract?

Julius' cap hold is $12.5M. The max salary he can receive starts at around $25M. So the Lakers can sign him to a contract above his $12.5M cap hold up to $25M after free agents sign.


Damn. I didn't know that was his max. I would only go to 18 million. If he gets a 25 million offer somewhere, good for him.
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 04, 2018 7:35 pm    Post subject:

PG13 wrote:
Baron Von Humongous wrote:
epak wrote:
Baron Von Humongous wrote:
PG13 wrote:
epak wrote:
Do we have sue bird rights on Julius?
Can we go over the cap to sign him?


Yes, unless we sign 2 max FA with stretching Deng. Would have to trade Deng in a salary dump if we sign 2 max FAs and still want to keep JRs bird rights. His cap hold is like 12.5 million. His max is like 18 million

His max is 25% of the projected $101M cap.


So if we sign FAs, we can't go over the cap with Julius' contract?

Julius' cap hold is $12.5M. The max salary he can receive starts at around $25M. So the Lakers can sign him to a contract above his $12.5M cap hold up to $25M after free agents sign.


Damn. I didn't know that was his max. I would only go to 18 million. If he gets a 25 million offer somewhere, good for him.

Thankfully no teams with frontcourt needs will have that kind of money to throw at him. I'm hoping he re-signs for somewhere between $14-16M.
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 04, 2018 7:38 pm    Post subject:

Baron Von Humongous wrote:
PG13 wrote:
Baron Von Humongous wrote:
epak wrote:
Baron Von Humongous wrote:
PG13 wrote:
epak wrote:
Do we have sue bird rights on Julius?
Can we go over the cap to sign him?


Yes, unless we sign 2 max FA with stretching Deng. Would have to trade Deng in a salary dump if we sign 2 max FAs and still want to keep JRs bird rights. His cap hold is like 12.5 million. His max is like 18 million

His max is 25% of the projected $101M cap.


So if we sign FAs, we can't go over the cap with Julius' contract?

Julius' cap hold is $12.5M. The max salary he can receive starts at around $25M. So the Lakers can sign him to a contract above his $12.5M cap hold up to $25M after free agents sign.


Damn. I didn't know that was his max. I would only go to 18 million. If he gets a 25 million offer somewhere, good for him.

Thankfully no teams with frontcourt needs will have that kind of money to throw at him. I'm hoping he re-signs for somewhere between $14-16M.


that would be perfect. with the cap space going up to 108M next summer, we could have room for 2 maxes again if we miss out this summer, and with Deng being on his last year then
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 04, 2018 8:06 pm    Post subject:

I love randle.. Theres not one player i admire more than him. I love his physical play. There is no one in the NBA who can push him around. He will be USA starting C very soon.. Its all about that outside J.
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 05, 2018 6:01 am    Post subject:

PG13 wrote:
Baron Von Humongous wrote:
epak wrote:
Baron Von Humongous wrote:
PG13 wrote:
epak wrote:
Do we have sue bird rights on Julius?
Can we go over the cap to sign him?


Yes, unless we sign 2 max FA with stretching Deng. Would have to trade Deng in a salary dump if we sign 2 max FAs and still want to keep JRs bird rights. His cap hold is like 12.5 million. His max is like 18 million

His max is 25% of the projected $101M cap.


So if we sign FAs, we can't go over the cap with Julius' contract?

Julius' cap hold is $12.5M. The max salary he can receive starts at around $25M. So the Lakers can sign him to a contract above his $12.5M cap hold up to $25M after free agents sign.


Damn. I didn't know that was his max. I would only go to 18 million. If he gets a 25 million offer somewhere, good for him.


it's the same MAX for all RFA. JParker, AGordon and Julius.
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 05, 2018 10:29 pm    Post subject:

Woj on (ESPN On The Clock)

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=aRgvjwgQ6ao

Other teams looking to offer Randle big money to pry him from the Lakers:

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“Lakers are big game hunting, LeBron, Paul George...
It’s going to be tough for the Lakers to keep Randle because a lot of teams out there are looking into giving a big offer sheet to Randle knowing LA’s in a tough position to pay him.”

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PostPosted: Tue Jun 05, 2018 11:40 pm    Post subject:

Iron Mamba wrote:
Woj on (ESPN On The Clock)

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=aRgvjwgQ6ao

Other teams looking to offer Randle big money to pry him from the Lakers:

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“Lakers are big game hunting, LeBron, Paul George...
It’s going to be tough for the Lakers to keep Randle because a lot of teams out there are looking into giving a big offer sheet to Randle knowing LA’s in a tough position to pay him.”


Lakers will have a week to match any offer right? How much are the Lakers looking to pay and retain Julius?
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 06, 2018 10:28 am    Post subject:

If the Lakers sign and trade Julius, does the other team have to match the signed yearly salary? Or the cap hold of ~$12M? Also, can he be traded along with other players?
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 06, 2018 10:38 am    Post subject:

epak wrote:
If the Lakers sign and trade Julius, does the other team have to match the signed yearly salary? Or the cap hold of ~$12M? Also, can he be traded along with other players?


If the other team has enough cap space, they don't have to match salaries and they can sign to a contract that they agree upon, it can even be under the 12m cap hold. If the team is above the cap, then they would have to match salaries.

I believe he can be traded with other players.
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 06, 2018 10:42 am    Post subject:

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epak wrote:
If the Lakers sign and trade Julius, does the other team have to match the signed yearly salary? Or the cap hold of ~$12M? Also, can he be traded along with other players?


If the other team has enough cap space, they don't have to match salaries and they can sign to a contract that they agree upon, it can even be under the 12m cap hold. If the team is above the cap, then they would have to match salaries.

I believe he can be traded with other players.


I'm pretty sure you can't sign and trade a player that you renounce, which you have to do to sign a player under the cap hold... I think.

So for a team above the cap, if the Lakers sign and trade Julius (signed above his cap hold) do they have to match the hold or the actually yearly salary?
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